Help ICH ATTACK

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by rudedog40
To each his own. I didn't read the article, but I'm just going by what several people who have been in this hobby for 10 to 20 years have told me. One individual told me a story of when he started a brand new 125 he put together. Moved sand and LR into it from a reef only (no fish) 200 tank he had. Moved some of his corals from the same 200 into it a couple months later. He then moved two fish he had in a 55 (a powder blue tang and a fairy wrasse) that were in that tank for almost a year, with absolutely no sign of ich, into the 125. A week later, the powder blue came down with ich. Where did it come from?
The ich came in on the fish. While it was not noticed, it was in the previous tank.
The alternative is that the ich parasite spontaneously generated in the new tank. There have been a very few reports of ich entering a capsulated state and residing for months in the sand, but I think we can safetly assume this is far from the norm, if it occurs at all.

 

[rudedog40]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
The ich came in on the fish. While it was not noticed, it was in the previous tank.
The alternative is that the ich parasite spontaneously generated in the new tank.

As he stated, the fish had been in the 55 for almost a year, and never showed any signs of ich. He said he still had four other fish in the 55, and they were fine. I like the 'spontaneously generated' theory. So does that appear in this article that everyone is dying to see? Whether it was spontaneous, or did already exist in the tank, the fact remains that QTing in this situation would be useless to avoid an ich attack. As I've stated before, I agree hypo is the defacto treatment for curing a bad bout of ich. However, I think keeping a tank fishless for six weeks to insure a tank is 'ich free' is a little extreme. At least this is what the experts I know have told me.

 

[calvertbill]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Guys (and gals), I'm so sorry. That link on Ich was a great read. Unfortunaetly it leads to a competitor's forum so it had to go.
1journeyman,
What if I went to that website and got permission to duplicate the article? I could then reprint it here. If you read the thread here, sooo many people's questions would be answered if they understood the life cycle of the parasite.

 

[srfisher17]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Guys (and gals), I'm so sorry. That link on Ich was a great read. Unfortunaetly it leads to a competitor's forum so it had to go.
I have it bookmarked. Can I print it and sell copies on the Classified section of the forum?

I also have some glass vials of invisible, spontaneously appearing Ich samples (great for your Kid's Science Fair Project!) for sale

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Calvertbill
1journeyman,
What if I went to that website and got permission to duplicate the article? I could then reprint it here. If you read the thread here, sooo many people's questions would be answered if they understood the life cycle of the parasite.
I'll find out.

 

[t316]

I really liked the photos, especially the one showing the parasite burrowing up underneath the skin of the fish. This proves several theorys wrong, including the one that cleaner shrimp are actually removing the ich. I'll hold onto my hard copy just in case it doesn't make it back on here

 

[waterlogged]

Originally Posted by Calvertbill
I always thought the best way to be the preeminent authoritative SOURCE website would be to publish everything, regardless where it led. The goal should be to be the first place everyone thinks of when they are seeking info, no?
I agree. There are other forums where members can list any website for gaining more knowledge. What a powerful tool.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Calvertbill
I always thought the best way to be the preeminent authoritative SOURCE website would be to publish everything, regardless where it led. The goal should be to be the first place everyone thinks of when they are seeking info, no?
No. The goal of SWF is to make money... They are a business. To the best of my knowledge SWF never has advertised they are the preeminent authoritative source. Typically those kind of sites sell advertisements to sponsors.
For a more in depth discussion about this see the current thread in the "aquarium" section regarding Free TDS meters.

 

[srfisher17]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
No. The goal of SWF is to make money... They are a business. To the best of my knowledge SWF never has advertised they are the preeminent authoritative source. Typically those kind of sites sell advertisements to sponsors.
For a more in depth discussion about this see the current thread in the "aquarium" section regarding Free TDS meters.
I'm glad somone still thinks its ok to make money. I've had the Mods bump a few of my posts; but I still think this free forum is priceless.

 

[debrapurdy]

Thanks for all the helpful hints, guys. I bought Ruby Reef Kick Ich. My blue tang is doing great; no evidence of ick. I UNDERSTAND. IT IS THERE. But he looks great, eating well, and playing with my clown fish. I did take one of ya'lls advice and got a Fire Shrimp. He cleans him daily. I do understand that the Hippo Tang is too big for my tank (My tank is an hexagon.) But, I also know that he chills in and around the rocks and plays very comfortably with the clown and the shrimp so room is a non issue. HE IS AN INCH FOR NOW. When he gets bigger my pet guy is going to trade him for some new, exciting fish. But again, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAD HELPFUL ADVICE!