HELP with my tank

sallen

sallen

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I have a 4ft 135ltr tank with
2 x tomato clowns
7 x hermit crabs
1 x sand anemone
1 x CBS
5 x glass shrimps
6 x snails
I dont how much liverock at the moment. Can you guys give me some ideas of where to add more liverock what position would benefit the tank, i realy dont have a clue, can you just pile it up what about the light not getting to the rocks at the bottom??? Also what other fish and shrimps can I add to my tank with the current livestock. I dont have the best lighting so i cant go with corals ive heard. I have 2 x 36w fluros 1x blue 20000k 1 x daylight 6500k.
cheers sallen
 
v-lioness

v-lioness

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Can you guys give me some ideas of where to add more liverock what position would benefit the tank, i realy dont have a clue, can you just pile it up what about the light not getting to the rocks at the bottom???
Since your tank is set up with inhabitants already in the tank, I would look at Base Rock (dry rock) over LR. Base rock would be able to be placed right in where LR would have to be cured in a separate bucket before placing it in your tank. Even if the LFS claims it is cured LR take extra precaution and cure it yourself.
You can just pile it in your tank but as you pile the rock make sure the rocks are sitting secure enough not to fall. it is recommended 1-2 pounds of rock per gallon, since your tank is around 35 gallons you should have 35 - 70 pounds of rock. You will just have to mess around with it as you place it in your tank to see what look you like best.
it is OK if the light is not hitting the bottom rocks............
Also what other fish and shrimps can I add to my tank with the current livestock.
If you are going to add more rock to your tank, hold off on adding any more inhabitants to the tank, I find it easier to place rock without them....
I dont have the best lighting so i cant go with corals ive heard. I have 2 x 36w fluros 1x blue 20000k 1 x daylight 6500k.
Though this lighting is not the best you can look at Low Light corals, bring a few mushroom in and see how they do, place them in the middle or top area. Or even do a search on planted tanks, see if this is something that may interest you.
Hope this Helps
Kaye
 
sallen

sallen

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thanks you have helped me. So how do you cure liverock that is sold as cured?????
I will look at low light corals for sure and do u know any low light anemones, if there is such thing???
So what types of fish go with the Tclowns???
If you have a look at my other HELP thread i have some rock i have had in my other tank for nearly 4 weeks, i got it from a local reef what do u think about adding it to this tank????
Thanks again Kay
 
v-lioness

v-lioness

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So how do you cure liverock that is sold as cured?????
You can place it in a tank and let it cycle or place it in a bucket, garbage can or bin with tank water and a power head. the rock has life on it so you will need the power head for movement. If it is base rock you are using than just swish it in a bucket to clean and add to your tank. If you place base rock with some Live rock overtime it will become Live rock.
I will look at low light corals for sure and do u know any low light anemones, if there is such thing???
Unfortunately there are no low light anemones that will work, though clowns do not need an anemone to host there are many that will host in different softies from Mushrooms, Xenia and even leathers.
If you have a look at my other HELP thread i have some rock i have had in my other tank for nearly 4 weeks, i got it from a local reef what do u think about adding it to this tank????
You can add this rock to your tank, I would think with those reading you will be fine. After placing the rock in the other tank still test it the following day, than every few days just to be sure......
Good luck in your venture and remember the slower you take this hobby the more you will enjoy it......
kaye
 
newbie77

newbie77

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When you add the rock try to make as many caves and perches for the fish. They need places to hide and mine look like they're playing tag sometimes going thru it. Also add a powerhead to your tank to keep things moving.
 
hot883

hot883

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Personally, I would take the anemone back to the LFS as your system cannot handle one because of water quality, age of tank, and lighting. Definately get more live rock, and if local will be cured. If shipped, need to re-cure it in another container.
 
poniegirl

poniegirl

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Hi Sallen. I've been looking at your tank photo and my question is why is the water level so low?
As far as adding LR, I agree with hot883. And in my case, I added my LR over a year, before I was happy with it. There are pieces that you just have to have
when you see them!
 
puffer32

puffer32

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Originally Posted by PonieGirl
Hi Sallen. I've been looking at your tank photo and my question is why is the water level so low?
As far as adding LR, I agree with hot883. And in my case, I added my LR over a year, before I was happy with it. There are pieces that you just have to have
when you see them!
I had to keep looking at the tank also, thought the level was low, but if you look close, the lights are on white legs, raising it up off the tank and it apears as if the level of water is much lower.
 
puffer32

puffer32

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Hard to tell if there is a rim, looks like a clear rim, you can see some thickness, but no color :notsure:
 
sallen

sallen

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where the white legs start is the top of my tank. I cannot put anymore water in it as its is about 2cm from the top. Here is another photo i chucked some lr in it a had cured. What do u reckon???? Oh and i have had my anenome for over three weeks and it is going fine.
 
teen

teen

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i would leave it as is, and not think about coral. then youll have plenty of swimming space for your fish. maybe later on upgrade lighting and then think about corals. thats my 2 cents.
 
poniegirl

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Originally Posted by sallen
what do you think ponie and puffer?
Well, Ponie is a LR fanatic..so I'd say (without knowing metric conversion of 135 ltr, though at 4 ft, I'd guess 55 or so gal?) at least 50 lbs more. Your fish will have plenty of swimming room.
Tomato clowns are a territory fish. Whether it is an anemone they host or a rock cave they claim. They seem to like the places to go in the rock. I have just one that is 5 years old and does claim his territory, but is not aggressive, in the mean sense. I haven't had two clowns together, so I can't speculate..
I spent, as said, a year building my LR with just one tomato clown and a seahorse, with hermits and snails of course.
The hitchhikers that come into the tank on the LR are a treat during that time and it's a great way to allow your tank to establish itself. It is entertaining all by itself. ***)
Please don't rush in and overstock.
 
poniegirl

poniegirl

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Sallen, I just learned on a different thread that 208 litres is 55 gallons?? Can you translate what your tank is in gallons?
 
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