rispa
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I take that back, last try with someone else helping. http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...dni3/Aquarium/
Hi, I'm new and would like advice
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rispa
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Lol now I don't know which are males and which are females. I thought that the smaller brown ones were females because they didn't have bellies sticking out, while the light colored and brown ones were male. I'd like to hear some other people's opinions and also thoughts on what they are would be nice. As a note they are supposed to be Kuda.
Oh and what do you think this one is?
The species of starfish is something I'm also wondering about.
Oh and what do you think this one is?
The species of starfish is something I'm also wondering about.
novahobbies
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OK, well the black and white one that's looking down in the top pic here looks like a girl, as does the brown one in the second photo posted here.
teresaq
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because they are young, they are hard to tell. they all look female. The one in the last pic may be a young male and just dosent have a pouch yet. See the horse in my profile pic, that is a male erectus. see how the belly slopes down to the tail.
They look kinda thin too. You may need to give them some live enriched brine and live mysis to build them up.
If these are captive bred, I only know of a few people breeding true Kuda.
Kuda- This is a smooth seahorse, with low spines. Often have spots throughout the body. Colors typically range from black to pale yellows to orangish yellows.
They look kinda thin too. You may need to give them some live enriched brine and live mysis to build them up.
If these are captive bred, I only know of a few people breeding true Kuda.
Kuda- This is a smooth seahorse, with low spines. Often have spots throughout the body. Colors typically range from black to pale yellows to orangish yellows.
rispa
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The one that might be male is extremely picky, the other three have been eating. I'm currently feeding them frozen mysis, but I'll try a live snack. I've been trying to make it to the aquarium store to get a list of things, but finals are preventing me so far. Before I got them they were fed frozen brine, unenriched which may be the problem. How do you identify seahorse species? What traits do you compare?
teresaq
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A good head shot of each horse and a close body shot will help with ID. I am to real good at it yet, but can tell they are not Reidi, H comes or Fuscus. That leaves Erectus, Kuda, or kelloggi.
Kelloggi do not have a good servival rate. If they are Kuda from vietnom, they are pen raised and should be wormed. If they are kuda from usa and captive bred, they have a better tract record. If they are Erectus, they have the best chance of being captive bred.
I have only seen that two tone black and white and brown and white one place. Seahorse corral. Beth breds them here in Fla. Erectus - look at this thread of benders, her profile pic https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/vb/s...92#post3295092
Kelloggi do not have a good servival rate. If they are Kuda from vietnom, they are pen raised and should be wormed. If they are kuda from usa and captive bred, they have a better tract record. If they are Erectus, they have the best chance of being captive bred.
I have only seen that two tone black and white and brown and white one place. Seahorse corral. Beth breds them here in Fla. Erectus - look at this thread of benders, her profile pic https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/vb/s...92#post3295092
rispa
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Well they are supposed to be from somewhere in Florida and they are supposed to be captive bred. I emailed the guy I got them from for more details. I tried looking through some Kuda and Kelloggi pictures and I'm not very good at the identification thing I think lol. Which is why I didn't second guess what I was told before now. Actually I'm kind of worried if they are two different species because that means they may have different temperature needs >.< I'll have to go look through some of the articles I bookmarked.
novahobbies
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All sorts of things, really. Number of "rings" on their trunk (sounds like age-checking a tree, doesn't it?), the size of the crown (if it's spikey or smooth,), that sort of thing. I'm definitely not the expert at IDing horses; I just stick to my Erectus and Reidi horses so I'm not up on Kuda too much. There's a lot of information on the dotorg site that can help you ID your horses...that pic I showed you to tell the difference between the sexes also came from there.
rispa
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I'll get some more pictures n a bit. They seem to come out better at night, so I may not post till tonight. I've posted in another forum for ID help. I might be getting a bigger tank today and I'll start cycling it soon. Finals over after Sunday, so by Monday I can put more time into this. Thanks for all the help thus far!
novahobbies
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Our pleasure. Oooh, new tank? What kind???
And I can't really add much to Teresa's assessment of the horses for now. I think she's better than I am when it comes to ID'ing the species.
And I can't really add much to Teresa's assessment of the horses for now. I think she's better than I am when it comes to ID'ing the species.
rispa
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I want to go get at least the 40 gallon bowfront, but personally I'd prefer getting all but the two smallest lol. Not that I'd be setting them up any time soon, but it's a good deal. My mom said that I can get them once finals are over, but I don't know if the guy will have them by then >.< link
novahobbies
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OK, speaking as a hobby-inclined adult who is recently out of college himself (late bloomer), tell your mom that I am qualified to offer this advice:
Call the guy and arrange a pick up for the 40 gallon bowfront. Don't wait until finals are over; it won't be there. Heck, I'm broke, but if this was in my neighborhood you might have some serious competition. ;-)
Tell her that if the tank is in good condition, it will sell very soon. If you can at least get the tank in your door,promise her that you won't worry about any other seahorse crap until AFTER finals are over. Then make good on that promise.
When you go to get the tank, look over it VERY carefully. Ask him if it has any leak conditions. Take a close look at the glass and make sure it's not too scratched. Take a closer look at the silicone seals and make sure they all look clean. You may see some small frayed edges on the silicone; this won't be a problem. Any large frayed edges, or obvious deep rips in the silicone - don't buy it. Don't be afraid if you see small chips in the glass edges, but if the glass edge has a chip larger than 1/8th to 1/4 inch, don't get it. Look at the seals on the front of the tank the most. Just so you know, Bowfronts are beautiful but have been known to develop leaks faster than regular tanks. You also want to look at the plastic frame - a 40 gallon bowfront should definitely have a crossbrace from the back of the tank to the front. Make sure this is still firm, and doesn't look or feel discolored or brittle. Some discoloration is acceptable, but if it's really bleached it will also be brittle - you'll be able to tell. Finally look at the bottom glass and check for the silicone seals and any possible cracks.
I would ask after the bowfront, the 40g long, and the 20g long. But that's just me - I'm not a hexagon fan.
Call the guy and arrange a pick up for the 40 gallon bowfront. Don't wait until finals are over; it won't be there. Heck, I'm broke, but if this was in my neighborhood you might have some serious competition. ;-)
Tell her that if the tank is in good condition, it will sell very soon. If you can at least get the tank in your door,promise her that you won't worry about any other seahorse crap until AFTER finals are over. Then make good on that promise.
When you go to get the tank, look over it VERY carefully. Ask him if it has any leak conditions. Take a close look at the glass and make sure it's not too scratched. Take a closer look at the silicone seals and make sure they all look clean. You may see some small frayed edges on the silicone; this won't be a problem. Any large frayed edges, or obvious deep rips in the silicone - don't buy it. Don't be afraid if you see small chips in the glass edges, but if the glass edge has a chip larger than 1/8th to 1/4 inch, don't get it. Look at the seals on the front of the tank the most. Just so you know, Bowfronts are beautiful but have been known to develop leaks faster than regular tanks. You also want to look at the plastic frame - a 40 gallon bowfront should definitely have a crossbrace from the back of the tank to the front. Make sure this is still firm, and doesn't look or feel discolored or brittle. Some discoloration is acceptable, but if it's really bleached it will also be brittle - you'll be able to tell. Finally look at the bottom glass and check for the silicone seals and any possible cracks.
I would ask after the bowfront, the 40g long, and the 20g long. But that's just me - I'm not a hexagon fan.
rispa
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My mom likes hexagons, so that one would eventually be for her. I was thinking the 20g tall as well 
I mean if I end up not using them I could sell them, but I really don't want to pass this up, especially if they are in decent condition.
As for my aquarium I scrubbed the glass, so next batch of pictures should be better.
I mean if I end up not using them I could sell them, but I really don't want to pass this up, especially if they are in decent condition.As for my aquarium I scrubbed the glass, so next batch of pictures should be better.
novahobbies
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Hey, if you've got the spare cash to get them all, then get 'em all.
maybe you can negotiate a discount. Just don't forget all the other things you've got to pick up sooner or later!
