Hi, I'm new and would like advice

rispa

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They are gorgeous. What type do you have? Also in the background of the first picture, is that a feeding bowl? If you use one can you tell me how they work because I thought that the mysis squirted into the bowl would just float away anyhow and not stay put, but maybe I'm missing something.
Maybe I'll just have to wait on mine to see how they develop. I do kind of hope that the one turns out to be a male :) I want to see them greeting and rising ^.^
 

teresaq

Active Member
yes, I use to use a feeding dish. you have to turn off the powerheads until after they are done eatting. Mine broke when I cleaned my tank, and I havent replaced it. I still turn off the pumps when I feed though so they dont have to chase the food too much. I just make sure the food settles into the caulpa and the gorgians I have. When most of the food is gone, I turn the pumps back on.
Oh, they are Erectus from a breeder in Fla.
 

rispa

Member
I really hope mine grow up well. Mine won't eat off the floor of the tank and love eating off the filter, so I figured that leaving it on is fine. Maybe I'll try a dish in the future, so there will be less to be picked off the ground. Oh and LFS has brine shrimp only, so I'll be getting that and enrichment stuff on Monday.
 

teresaq

Active Member
Live Brine??? Dont try to enrich frozen, it wont work.
I saw your post on my Fav seahorse site. That is the best site.
Mine wont eat off the sand, but like to dig in the Macro algeas.
 

rispa

Member
Yeah, I've been feeding them frozen mysis and they eat it just fine, but the live brine was for a treat to get the picky light brown one to eat more. That site has a lot of info and I've been going through it :) I'll check if mine like to once this algae problem is under control and I have macro algae. Honestly, I never realized how many types of algae there are.
 

cranberry

Active Member
Did you buy the from a "professional" breeder or a hobbyist breeder?
Do you have any pictures or links to their horses?
 

rispa

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Honestly I kinda made a decision without doing much research ^^;; what I wanted to do was get a large aquarium and make it into a freshwater and slowly get fish that I like, but my mom had the issue about insurance, so I still scanned ads, but didn't bring anything up. This was a compromise. I found an ad for 4 seahorses for $140 and my mom loves seahorses, so I arranged to get them and here we are now lol. Now I'm working on figuring out the insurance issue for sure because we need a bigger tanks for them. They do eat frozen food, so I'm betting they are captive bred. The guy also got them when they were very young, so I'm guessing that they were captive bred. I haven't heard back from him though. I may try calling him in the future since I still have his number.
 

cranberry

Active Member
They almost look like a mixed species to me. Keep taking pictures.....
Tank raised are also trained to eat frozen and come in very small.
 

rispa

Member
Okay, then they might be tank raised too. I will :) I've been having so much fun with the picture taking, although I need to find the camera charger before I can take anymore ^^; The guy also said he got them for cheap and that if I ever wanted to get more he would get me in touch with the place he got his horses from. Either way they are quite pretty. I'm hoping one of them develops a pouch so I can try my hand at seahorse babies :)
 

rispa

Member
Originally Posted by novahobbies
http:///forum/post/3295355
Hey, if you've got the spare cash to get them all, then get 'em all.
maybe you can negotiate a discount. Just don't forget all the other things you've got to pick up sooner or later!
I do have the spare cash, my birthday just passed
But my mom still doesn't want me to get any more tanks and she's bouncing from reason to reason on this >.< We have 1) finals 2) it's used and she wants to ge the experience of a new aquarium, despite the fact that we've had this experience before 3) they don't have lids 4) insurance only covers up to 20 gallons, although I have yet to find proof of this and she still won't let me go get the 20 gallons 5) no space to put it, even though she had a sectional couch in my parking space for the last couple of weeks after changing around my room while I was out and upsetting me, though I've managed just fine parking wise 6) she doesn't want us to do things too fast, she wants me to research, although before the seahorses, buying a used tank was what I was researching because that is what I was going to do ...n) find another possible reason and she'll name it, although you can't use it won't fit in my car because we just moved her sectional in my beloved minivan
So I'm frustrated and just needed to rant, especially now that 40g bowfront and 30g hex are sold
and they were the two that I wanted the most
 

rispa

Member
On another forum I was told that there are two types of red legged hermit crabs and the ones with yellow eyes are okay for seahorses. Also the blue legged ones are apparently aggressive, even though they are small. I'm going to do more research in this area and will report back with my finds. Also my mom doesn't want to get rid of the shrimp, so he's not going yet. I also witnessed him eating seahorse poop, so he's doing a nice job of cleaning for the moment. No new tanks yet for the above reasons, although my mom doesn't want to find new homes for anything, but wants to separate them into smaller tanks. I think once she's home I'm going to read her this thread to help her understand better. I have remade my list of supplies, since my previous one was deleted because I didn't save it and my laptop died >.<
I'm also worried about one of the light brown seahorse because I haven't seen it eating lately. I'm going to try to find someone in the area with experience to either take it or help out. My mom wants me to try to find a marine biologist or talk to the aquarium, but I'm thinking finding a specialist would be hard and getting in touch with aquarium people would also be hard. Any new advice would be nice. Meanwhile shopping time at last!!
 

novahobbies

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Bear in mind this is only coming from my direct experience, so feel free to take it with a grain of salt:
Almost all crabs are opportunistic omnivores. Most scavenge, some filter feed, some hunt directly....but with very few exceptions, few crabs of any size will fail to pass on a meal if it thinks its edible.
This holds true from the giant king crabs of the north pacific all the way down to the tiny little crabs that inhabit sponges and corals. It is also certainly true for the blue-leg and red-leg crabs we collect for our tanks. Blue leg crabs are definitely aggressive from time to time, but almost always their aggression stems from housing issues. I've seen them tussle with one another for shell rights, and I've seen them attack and pick to death a small unsuspecting snail....not for the food value, but for the shell. Well OK, I'm sure the food value too. But as for my own experience, I've never personally observed blue-legs bothering fish, seahorses, or pipefish.
I've had plenty of blue-leg crabs in my seahorse setups. Never once seen the slightest hint of aggression. I once had ONE red-leg crab - and not a big one - in my first seahorse setup. He was fine for months. Then when he was just a little bigger, I saw him casually reach out one day and try to snap a passing seahorse tail. Why would he do this? Food? Doubtful. Territory? Maybe. Because he's just a crab, and that's what they do? Probably.

I've had quite a number of blue-legs, as I say, and I've never had a problem. I think they're pretty safe.....but that's just one man's experience, and crabs have their own minds about what they will or will not try to eat. Add the crabs you think are safest, but always, always keep an eye on them.
 

rispa

Member
Will do :) I'm back from my shopping spree with most items I had intended to get. Water tests came back with nothing wrong. I got my own API test kit for future use. I wasn't able to get the Red Sea Hydrometer since they were out of stock, but I'm wondering if the hydrometers that hang in the tank are the better type. There's a 20g tank for sale with decorations and stand and hydrometer that hangs in the tank and filter and hood, etc for $40 that I may go back and get tomorrow. The only thing is I "think" I saw a chip, but after describing it neither of the employees I talked to over the phone could find it, so maybe it was a reflection or something. It was in an odd spot. As for the rock, most of theirs was pretty big, but I did find a small piece that will be nice for the seahorses to grab and I plan on looking for more in the future when I go. I have algae sheets that I was thinking of holding down with the small rock I got today for the lawnmower blenny. He does eat mysis, but I think it is probably better for him to have a well rounded diet. I also got my Hikari mysis, PE mysis (which I'd like suggestions on breaking apart) and 10 ghost shrimp to try out. I didn't get any enrichment stuff yet since it was pretty expensive and I want to do research before spending the money. I just poured the tigger copepods I got in the tank and they look pretty cool and the shrimp seems to like them. One of the seahorses seemed interested as well, although I didn't see her eat any. I also haven't seen them in the tank before, so maybe we didn't have any after all, or maybe our population was really low. Any chance they eat cyano? lol According to the fish store ammonia badges aren't accurate, so they don't carry them anymore. Also the Koraline Nano Powerheads are no longer being produced, although there are two powerheads that are taking it's place, so I decided not to get one today. I got a Purigen Pillow to try out as well, hopefully it'll help with the green in the tank ^_^
By the way I got 10 ghost shrimp. Is that enough for everyone in the tank having one meal or should I add in some other food as well? Oh and I was told that gutloading is done by feeding shrimp or brine high nutrition pellets. How do you tell which pellets are high nutrition?
 

rispa

Member
The blenny ate a ghost shrimp, but the seahorses were too slow
They tried to snick the shrimp, but the shrimp were one step ahead. Even the other shrimp didn't catch any. I tried PE mysis and everyone LOVED it, except the one that's not eating >.< I'm worried I'm going to lose her. I also saw her scratching when feeding which she wasn't doing before, so I'm not sure what's up, but I'm becoming concerned for everyone else. I'm going to continue keeping an eye on her until I either have someone with experience I can give her to or a hospital tank I can put her in, hopefully I'll have the later soon. I'm also going to try a freshwater dip, but for now my night will consist of research and maybe a bit of cleaning.
Edit: Forgot to add another question. Any thoughts on if this aquarium can be used for a freshwater dip? I was going to use it for a dip, then let it sit for a bit dry, then put one of our bettas in it, but I want to make sure nothing will hurt the betta.
 
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