Hippo Tang need to qt help!!

mikeyman356

mikeyman356

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My Hippo tang has ich and i have a 10 gallon qt tank not set up yet my tangs about 3-4 inches and i need to know would it be alright to put him in the 10g for a short period of time to treat it?? and how do i set up the qt tank?? can i just use the leftover water from a water change or do i have to cycle it??
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Is the hippo in your main tank? If so, then all fish need to be treated with hyposalinity.
How many fish do you have? Do you have live rock/live sand/corals/inverts?
 
mikeyman356

mikeyman356

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yes the hippo tang is in my main tank i have 5 fish no live rock but live sand no corals and no inverts because my hogfish would eat them
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Hyposalinity is the process of dropping the specific gravity all the way to 1.009 over the course of 48 hours and keeping it there for 4 weeks to get rid of all ich by stopping their reproduction. If one fish has it, they have all been exposed. You can do the hyposalinity right in your main tank. Just take the live sand out and put it in a rubbermaid container. You need to be as careful as possible when removing it, as you do not want to begin a cycle by disturbing it.
Check out this link for more info:
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127007
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Well, being that it is live sand, you will have die off from the low salinity which will spike your ammonia....
How deep is the sand bed?
 
thejeweler

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Hello im no expert, but the first thing you need to do is try some garlic extreme. Its a liquid put some on there food everyday. The ick will go away. Second go get a cleaner shrimp.The shrimp will it eat the ick as well. Thrird whats the problem with the water. Make sure yor doing your water changes.And call me in the morning, That will be $50 good luck
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Garlic Extreme does not kill ich. It only helps build the fish's immune system. The ich will NOT go away.
A cleaner shrimp will not "eat" the ich. It will pick some of them off the fish. If you do not get rid of them, the ich WILL return.
Hyposalinity and copper are the only two ways you can kill and get rid of ich.
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by thejeweler
not true
Yes, it very much is. There is scientific study and research done on this topic.
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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I have used garlic extreme many times before. It is an immune-system ehancer. It has nothing in it that KILLS parasites such as ich.
 
mikeyman356

mikeyman356

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now who am i supposed to believe here??? By the way whoever asked me how deep my sandbed is its not that deep about 1-2 inches deep? someone tell me wut do i do i have heard of both techniques to get rid of ich. Lowering the salt level works i no but i dont want to have to take the sand out and garlic extreme is an immune system enhancer so do i l give my fish that AFTER the ich is gone or will it get rid of the ich?? have you ever tried it??
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Mike, trust me. I would never claim to be an "expert", but I know what I am talking about here. I hate to point out a person's flaws, but Rusty (thejeweler) has ich on his fish, as well (See thread here: https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/show...71#post1739271). I am not sure I would be taking that person's advice.
It is a FACT that the ONLY two things that totally kill ich are copper and hyposalinity.
I have used garlic extreme, and while it is helpful, it is not a cure. There is a big difference.
Unfortunately, you will have to take the sand out, start hyposalinity with a refractometer, and monitor the tank very closely for the next 4 to 6 weeks.
The things you will need is plenty of water made up in case you need to do a quick water change, test kits for pH and kH (as well as a buffer, in case the levels drop, which they might), and ammonia, nitrite, nitrate test kits, as well a refractometer to be 100% accurate with the salinity.
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Because if it is live sand, there will be living organisms that will die from the low salinity. Inverts cannot live in hyposalinity. Inverts are what is living in your live sand. When the salt level drops, these animals will die, and your ammonia will spike.
Also, when ich falls off the fish, they drop to the substrate. If you do not have any sand or substrate, you can siphon them right out and help the process along.
 
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