oscardeuce
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Let's see if any of his beliefs are new or "change". Let's also see how those same beliefs heald up to history.
First:
" I will cut funding to unproven missile systems".
Le's look at the years leading up to WWI. The new "unproven" system: aircraft. At the dawn of WWI we were still flying the Wright seris of aircraft based on the 1903 model.
From http://www.centennialofflight.gov/es...re_WWI/AP1.htm
The U.S. government generally lagged behind its European counterparts in these efforts and was much later in supporting aviation than Europe had been. Back in 1890, the French had ordered an aircraft from the aviator Clement Ader and had appropriated $100,000 for that purpose, even though the aircraft he developed never flew in a controlled flight. But the Wright brothers, who had developed and demonstrated a fully controllable aircraft in 1903 that could take off, land, bank, turn, climb, and descend, did so with their own funds. Not until 1909 did the Signal Corps purchase an aircraft for military purposes. The U.S. Navy purchased its first plane, a derivative of the Curtiss Golden Flyer, in July 1911.
As of 1914 the US had 8 aircraft and 14 trained pilots
Source: Holley, Ideas and Weapons, p. 29.
Our best pilots went to war in British and French designed aircraft.
This unproven weapons system went on to help win the war along with a similar unproven system.. the tank.
As WWII approached even with the smoke of war wafting over the Atlantic, the US refused to invest in tanks, and even aircraft. We started the war with the few tanks, and may of them were knock offs of Frech designs. No US tanks enetered WWI, and in the interwar years few were bought and fewer new designs. Inventors like Christie took his advances in tracked suspensions to Russia where they were made famous in the T-34 series. We did come up with the Sherman, but the Sherman relied heavily on production numbers as it was generally out gunned and out armoured by German tanks.
We were even lagging in aircraft production. The famous P-51 Mustang was a product of a British lend lease contract, not US development. Only our ability to produce new designs at a rate of up to 8 aircraft per day allowed us to win.
Finally, the biggest "unproven" weapons system of WWII: The nuclear bomb. Need I say more?
So, when Mr Obama talks about "change" and defunding "unproven" weapons systems, think back on history. This is neither "change" nor are his beliefs supported by historical fact.
First:
" I will cut funding to unproven missile systems".
Le's look at the years leading up to WWI. The new "unproven" system: aircraft. At the dawn of WWI we were still flying the Wright seris of aircraft based on the 1903 model.
From http://www.centennialofflight.gov/es...re_WWI/AP1.htm
The U.S. government generally lagged behind its European counterparts in these efforts and was much later in supporting aviation than Europe had been. Back in 1890, the French had ordered an aircraft from the aviator Clement Ader and had appropriated $100,000 for that purpose, even though the aircraft he developed never flew in a controlled flight. But the Wright brothers, who had developed and demonstrated a fully controllable aircraft in 1903 that could take off, land, bank, turn, climb, and descend, did so with their own funds. Not until 1909 did the Signal Corps purchase an aircraft for military purposes. The U.S. Navy purchased its first plane, a derivative of the Curtiss Golden Flyer, in July 1911.
As of 1914 the US had 8 aircraft and 14 trained pilots
Source: Holley, Ideas and Weapons, p. 29.
Our best pilots went to war in British and French designed aircraft.
This unproven weapons system went on to help win the war along with a similar unproven system.. the tank.
As WWII approached even with the smoke of war wafting over the Atlantic, the US refused to invest in tanks, and even aircraft. We started the war with the few tanks, and may of them were knock offs of Frech designs. No US tanks enetered WWI, and in the interwar years few were bought and fewer new designs. Inventors like Christie took his advances in tracked suspensions to Russia where they were made famous in the T-34 series. We did come up with the Sherman, but the Sherman relied heavily on production numbers as it was generally out gunned and out armoured by German tanks.
We were even lagging in aircraft production. The famous P-51 Mustang was a product of a British lend lease contract, not US development. Only our ability to produce new designs at a rate of up to 8 aircraft per day allowed us to win.
Finally, the biggest "unproven" weapons system of WWII: The nuclear bomb. Need I say more?
So, when Mr Obama talks about "change" and defunding "unproven" weapons systems, think back on history. This is neither "change" nor are his beliefs supported by historical fact.
