reef diver
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Can anyone tell me this? :help:
How do you get PH to 8.3?
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reef diver
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Does saltwater default to that level?
milomlo
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I don't think u should add buffer as this can drop your alkalinity as well. Your PH can affect a lot of things in your tank. Bang or Thomas one told me this when I was trying to raise my PH.
What are your water parameters?
Here is a statement from Ophiura on the subject. This is what I was trying to say, she just says it better
pH buffers are alkalinity buffers. Just adding it without knowing your calcium and alkalinity can cause major issues. There are also other reasons you may have low pH. If you have low pH but your alkalinity and calcium are in line, there is also a magnesium component...or you just simply have a problem with gas exchange/circulation.
It is a complex topic and just adding a pH buffer is not the best solution
What are your water parameters?
Here is a statement from Ophiura on the subject. This is what I was trying to say, she just says it better
pH buffers are alkalinity buffers. Just adding it without knowing your calcium and alkalinity can cause major issues. There are also other reasons you may have low pH. If you have low pH but your alkalinity and calcium are in line, there is also a magnesium component...or you just simply have a problem with gas exchange/circulation.
It is a complex topic and just adding a pH buffer is not the best solution
reef diver
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LOL! U missed my point, I am making my first batch of salt and I wanted to know how to get it up.
bang guy
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Originally Posted by Reef Diver
LOL! U missed my point, I am making my first batch of salt and I wanted to know how to get it up.
Don't try to artificially raise the PH, it's almost always a bad idea.
If you really feel like playing Russian Roulette then Washing Soda (Carbonate) will raise PH temporarily. It's a really really bad idea though.
LOL! U missed my point, I am making my first batch of salt and I wanted to know how to get it up.
Don't try to artificially raise the PH, it's almost always a bad idea.
If you really feel like playing Russian Roulette then Washing Soda (Carbonate) will raise PH temporarily. It's a really really bad idea though.
milomlo
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Hmmmm, there was no point made. You asked how to get it up. You can get it up by using buffer BUT if you are mixing salt, again you need to find out what your other tests are.....there is a reason it is low or high or whatever. If this is a new batch then your salinity, temperature and how long you have been mixing it play a role in the PH as well.
Sorry just trying to help.
What Bang Said -
Sorry just trying to help.
What Bang Said -
reef diver
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Ok, I am mxing it today, what shoulkd the ph be when I test it on a brand new batch of salt.
milomlo
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If you are asking what "normal PH is", then anywhere between 8.2 and 8.4 IMO is good.
AGAIN this also depends on your other parameters. Just making your PH 8.3 or 8.4 isn't going to make everything perfect. This can drop your alk and mess up lots of things.
IMO mix your water for a minimum of 24 hours and then test the calcium, magnesium, alk, and PH then post your parameters on here.
AGAIN this also depends on your other parameters. Just making your PH 8.3 or 8.4 isn't going to make everything perfect. This can drop your alk and mess up lots of things.
IMO mix your water for a minimum of 24 hours and then test the calcium, magnesium, alk, and PH then post your parameters on here.
reef diver
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Thanks
ophiura
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Look they asked how to raise the PH. Ive been using marine buffer for a year and have had no alki problems. thats just me though.
But you must consider that there are reasons for low pH...and not all of them are corrected with a bottle. In fact, that bottle could result in some big problems if you are not careful!! Sometimes people do benefit from hearing about more than just the answer to the question. If it involves potential harm to your tank, I would suspect that would be the case. That's all people are trying to cover here.
BTW, what is the pH?
Trying to reach magic numbers will almost always take out a lot of the joy in the hobby. I guarantee you there are plenty of tanks running beautifully that are not at the "perfect" 8.3
But you must consider that there are reasons for low pH...and not all of them are corrected with a bottle. In fact, that bottle could result in some big problems if you are not careful!! Sometimes people do benefit from hearing about more than just the answer to the question. If it involves potential harm to your tank, I would suspect that would be the case. That's all people are trying to cover here.
BTW, what is the pH?
Trying to reach magic numbers will almost always take out a lot of the joy in the hobby. I guarantee you there are plenty of tanks running beautifully that are not at the "perfect" 8.3
milomlo
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Originally Posted by ophiura
But you must consider that there are reasons for low pH...and not all of them are corrected with a bottle. In fact, that bottle could result in some big problems if you are not careful!! Sometimes people do benefit from hearing about more than just the answer to the question. If it involves potential harm to your tank, I would suspect that would be the case. That's all people are trying to cover here.
BTW, what is the pH?
Trying to reach magic numbers will almost always take out a lot of the joy in the hobby. I guarantee you there are plenty of tanks running beautifully that are not at the "perfect" 8.3
Exactly!! Thank you Ophiura. My PH is usually 8.2 but all other parameters are in check so it is fine
But you must consider that there are reasons for low pH...and not all of them are corrected with a bottle. In fact, that bottle could result in some big problems if you are not careful!! Sometimes people do benefit from hearing about more than just the answer to the question. If it involves potential harm to your tank, I would suspect that would be the case. That's all people are trying to cover here.
BTW, what is the pH?
Trying to reach magic numbers will almost always take out a lot of the joy in the hobby. I guarantee you there are plenty of tanks running beautifully that are not at the "perfect" 8.3
Exactly!! Thank you Ophiura. My PH is usually 8.2 but all other parameters are in check so it is fine
reefnut
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What is the tank's alkalinity and calcium levels?? That's the real question if you get right down to it.
I will jump in and agree that adding "buffer" to raise your PH is a VERY bad idea. Test your alkalinity and ONLY add the buffer if the alkalinity is low and only add enough to get the alkalinity back in range.
and don't worry about the water change water... making such small adjustments is hard... chances are it will just cause you more problems.
I will jump in and agree that adding "buffer" to raise your PH is a VERY bad idea. Test your alkalinity and ONLY add the buffer if the alkalinity is low and only add enough to get the alkalinity back in range.
and don't worry about the water change water... making such small adjustments is hard... chances are it will just cause you more problems.