How does this stimulate the economy? Can someone explain this.

darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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This is straight from the current bill being proposed which you can view here. http://www.rules.house.gov/111/LegText/111_hr1_text.pdf
335 million for aids and sexually transmitted disease prevention programs.
60 million for environmental health programs
30 million for injury prevention programs
40 million to osha for more programs (wouldn't the 30 million previously stated cover this)
30 million for public health workforce programs
40 million to the national center for health statistics.
50 million to the states to implement healthcare-associated infection reduction strategies (what in the hell is this).
200 million for the washington national mall (is it really this big to need all that money)
100 million for National park service centennial challenge signature programs and projects
500 million to the bureau of indian affairs mainly for the building and maintaining of schools. (aren't they a sovereign nation and making a ton of money from the casinos?)
550 million for indian health facilities for construction and maintenance. (couldn't they just use the 500 million already set aside for them)
150 million to the smithsonian institute..
80 million for the enforcement of worker protection laws, oversight, and coordination of activities. This money is transferable to osha, esa, and eta at the discretion of secretary of labor.
Isn't most of this stuff already paid out through the yearly budget, what I see is a way to increase the size and cost to run government and pay government more.
If someone else sees differently on how this stimulates the economy please explain it to me.
 
stdreb27

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What I really don't get, is who actually wants it? Seriously, I haven't spoken with any liberals who want a "bailout", I don't know any republicans besides the dumb ones in washington or on TV.
Seems to me like it is about time someone pops this bubble.
 
salty blues

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sickboy

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Who knows what they are trying to stimulate. It is pointless. they could be using the time to reform financial regulations from too many pointless ones to ones that work better but are fewer in number.
Did you hear about that one Rep that was talking about not wanting to mortga ge our grandchildren's future? Where has this guy been? Probably voting for tax cuts that have put us even farther behind I suppose....
 
stevedave08

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Isn't a lot of that money being reappropriated from existing programs? Or is this all new spending? There are a lot of useless existing programs that are supposed to be shut down.
 
t316

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Originally Posted by SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/2931220
Isn't a lot of that money being reappropriated from existing programs? Or is this all new spending? There are a lot of useless existing programs that are supposed to be shut down.
Yes, such as 'The Division of Common Sense'...will be shut down as we know it to contribute to these other more important allocations.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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The way I understand it, it is all new spending. I could be wrong, but this is how I understand it. This is a stimulus package and has nothing to do with the current budget.
 
aquaknight

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Any one have any idea on to get on that $30mil. injury preventation board? Talk about a cake walk...
Do not attempt to 'surf' a forklif by standing on the fork while it's in motion. Do not touch a drill bit while it's still rotating, do not stare directly into a welding spark...
 
sickboy

sickboy

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2931033
200 million for the washington national mall (is it really this big to need all that money)
Obama got the Dems to drop this and the birth control thing out of the bill, but that still leaves us with how many millions of wasted money?
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2931409
Obama got the Dems to drop this and the birth control thing out of the bill, but that still leaves us with how many millions of wasted money?
I didn't list the birth control thing as I heard that was dropped today. Missed the mall thing, but as you said, from my list alone one item was dropped having us spending ...................how much?
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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I think a fairly accurate statement would be government spending bill masked as a stimulous package.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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I think they should dedicate a couple million to a crippled guy who does a lot of T5 light testing for reef tanks
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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Don't forget money to ACRON to allow them to stimulate the economy.
OR
You could "give" each family $10,000-20,000 ( depending on the source) of their own money to stimulate the economy.
That's what I would do. A tax holiday, tax exempt withdrawls from retirement funds, etc.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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So how many of you are foolish enough to believe you are getting a tax cut?
This tax credit is going to cost us dearly
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2931182
Who knows what they are trying to stimulate. It is pointless. they could be using the time to reform financial regulations from too many pointless ones to ones that work better but are fewer in number.
Did you hear about that one Rep that was talking about not wanting to mortga ge our grandchildren's future? Where has this guy been? Probably voting for tax cuts that have put us even farther behind I suppose....
Tax cuts do not put us behind.
Overspending puts us behind...
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Much of the spending hits in 2010. Any idea why?
This is nothing short of a Congressional attempt to buy the election in 2010, compliments of our tax dollars.
 
nina&noah

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They were talking about this on "The View" today and they said that 1.5 million of it was going to build a water park in Miami. They just built a small water park here. Why would we need another one and how is that going to help the country? I realize that in the big picture it is not that much money, but its just another example.
 
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