Hypo on powder blue

[dbgator1]

I need some opinions on the smallest tank i can get away with doing hypo on my medium powder blue tang. I have had this guy for 1 1/2 years now and he has always looked and done great i feel horrible but he is covered in the ick. Just recently he really isn't eating much and doesn't look very good. He is currently in a 150 reef tank. I have a 55 but it needs to be sealed and the only other tanks i have are a 29 gallon and a 20 gallon. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as i am at the point where i am having less and less joy out of my tank and more and more aggravation.

 

[sepulatian]

The 29 is your best bet. How big is this fish?

 

[thejeweler]

Just a thought but have u ever uses galic extreme. Just put a little on there food, i have a powder blue and blue hippo and yellow tang. many other fish but i was told it helps with the ick knock on wood 5 yrs later no problem.Im no expert but i hope this helps u. There is people in here that dont beleive the prroduct works, good luck its worth the try

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by thejeweler
Just a thought but have u ever uses galic extreme. Just put a little on there food, i have a powder blue and blue hippo and yellow tang. many other fish but i was told it helps with the ick knock on wood 5 yrs later no problem.Im no expert but i hope this helps u. There is people in here that dont beleive the prroduct works, good luck its worth the try
Garlic Extreme does not have medicinal qualities. It will help build their immune system. If the fish has a high immune system then it can fight the parasite. Unfortnately it is an uphill fight. The ich will remain in the system and continue to infect your fish.

 

[dbgator1]

I'd say he would be considered a medium and i have always soaked his food with selcon and garlic im just gonne have to try the 29 and hope for the best he is not looking good at all and will surely not last much longer in my big tank so if i can get the ich off him i guess he'd be less stressed.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
I'd say he would be considered a medium and i have always soaked his food with selcon and garlic im just gonne have to try the 29 and hope for the best he is not looking good at all and will surely not last much longer in my big tank so if i can get the ich off him i guess he'd be less stressed.
Go to the lfs tommorow and pick up some methylyne blue. Add some to a bucket of tank water with him in it. Meth can only be use in a bucket, but it is very effective. It will not remove all of the parasites, but it will soothe the fish and help many of the parasites to detatch. I used to use it while acclimating new fish at my store. You will still have to perform hypo, but this will help in the mean time.

 

[dbgator1]

Thx for the advice it is aggravating cause i've had such success with this fish having him over a year and a half and have always heard how diffucult they are to keep but it has been great having him up to this point. I'll try to find what your talking about and do it tommorow but the lfs's are limited around here.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
Thx for the advice it is aggravating cause i've had such success with this fish having him over a year and a half and have always heard how diffucult they are to keep but it has been great having him up to this point. I'll try to find what your talking about and do it tommorow but the lfs's are limited around here.
Not to ruin your night, but if any other fish were in the tank then they all need to be hypoed as well.

 

[dbgator1]

None have lasted as long as him but thankfully there was only 3 others. They went pretty quickly it snuck up on me. I don't think i can get much more bummed about it.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
None have lasted as long as him but thankfully there was only 3 others. They went pretty quickly it snuck up on me. I don't think i can get much more bummed about it.

That is terrible that you didn't see it comming. Remove your fish and keep the DT fishless for six weeks. If this 29 is not cycled then be ready for 50% daily water changes. The price of not keeping a cyced qt is, unfortunately, high. It could cost the life of your fish. Be ready to change some serious water.

 

[dbgator1]

I can get water from a cycled tank from a friend so hopefully it won't be as bad as starting fresh. The powder blue was in really good shape and i think that is why he has been able to hold up. But of all my fish he would be the one hardest to loose. How quick can i drop the salt levels? I have never had to do this before. I don't have room for a cycled QT in my house the 150 takes up alot of room and i have a 12 gallon nano that does great go figure right.

 

[dbgator1]

If he is at the point that he is barely eating have i waited too long to do this hopefully not but just curious on your opinion. I did fing the methylene blue in the lfs and will do that first as i get the 29 setup.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
I can get water from a cycled tank from a friend so hopefully it won't be as bad as starting fresh. The powder blue was in really good shape and i think that is why he has been able to hold up. But of all my fish he would be the one hardest to loose. How quick can i drop the salt levels? I have never had to do this before. I don't have room for a cycled QT in my house the 150 takes up alot of room and i have a 12 gallon nano that does great go figure right.
Unfortunately, biological bacteria does not live in the water column. It colonizes on porous surfaces such as LR, sand, filter pads, ect. If you can use some of the filter media from the display, that will help. A few cups of your sand will help also. The SG should be dropped over 48hrs. Do not rush it or you will risk osmotic shock. Please read Beth's instructions for hyposalinity located in her Common Treaments FAQ.

 

[dbgator1]

Thank you.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
Thank you.
Anytime

 

[dbgator1]

OK i got my tank full with 20 gallons of used water 2 cups of sand and 2 pieces of live rockout of my established tank. Should i wait out the cycle or put the fish in and test like crazy. Hes not looking to good and i need to start this sooner rather than later im getting some biozyne to help speed things along but it is gonna be a couple of days befroe i get it. I know the ammonia and nitrite will go up and that will stress and prob. kill the fish just curious your opionion on speeding this along and getting my powde blue in there.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by dbgator1
OK i got my tank full with 20 gallons of used water 2 cups of sand and 2 pieces of live rockout of my established tank. Should i wait out the cycle or put the fish in and test like crazy. Hes not looking to good and i need to start this sooner rather than later im getting some biozyne to help speed things along but it is gonna be a couple of days befroe i get it. I know the ammonia and nitrite will go up and that will stress and prob. kill the fish just curious your opionion on speeding this along and getting my powde blue in there.
You won't be able to hypo your rock. The rock will have to to come out. You can add a few more cups of your sand though. Skim it right off of the top of your DT. Have plenty of water mixed for daily changes.

 

[dbgator1]

So if i do the water changes i can put in the fish or should i wait for it to cycle. Sorry but i have never had to rush setting up a tank like this. Also i was planning on taking the rock out before i put the fish in like beth says in her post. And im not sure what she means by fresh shrimp.

 

[dbgator1]

Day no nitrites maybe the water sand and rock made a huge difference nitrates are about 20. I'm gonna keep checking but if it keeps going like this i can put him in sooner rather later. He's hanging tough i didn't know powder blues were this tough.

 

[dbgator1]

Day 2 still no nitrites i want to put him in but am going away this weekend and doing the hypo it would probably be better if he can just hold on till sun. That way i can closely monitor it. Also i can make sure the tank water is good but so far so good with the new hypo tank.