I am so excited....

turningtim

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Originally Posted by MoneyMan
That's 20k ;)
You're making a very blue tank. Remember, the bluer, the less PAR.
You have 1 center bar or 2? Are your partition evently divided by the center bar(s)?
I agree, maybe change the PC to 50/50 or go with 12k? Its only a 5' tank so I'll bet its only 1 center bar. Other than what PC's to put in there I would think that would work just fine.
Tim
 
milomlo

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OH so for center bar you mean on the tank itself? If that is the case then yes there is only one.
Duh -
Sorry

Also Tim FYI
the stand measures 5'2" long by 18.5" deep by 34" tall. The tank is slightly smaller in footprint at 60" long by 18" deep by 20" tall
 
turningtim

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Originally Posted by milomlo
I have no idea what you are talking about
I am just learning about these. So I have no idea.
Here is a picture of a 3x175 MH that I also looking at. Would this be better?

The only difference with the picture now is that the picture shows a previous verion of 4x65W compact fluorescent bulb and the new verison comes with 2x130W compact fluorescent bulb
Would this be ok??
First. The center bar or cross members on the tank itself. You don't want a light right over it.
The higher you go in Kelvin temp the bluer the light. 6500,10k,12k,14k,20k. So that is just personnel prefference. I like a bluer tank some like a whiter tank. The bluer you get the less intense the light will be. On my 5' tank I'm going to run 3x175-12k and then supplement with smaller PC's Acts. But the other issue is depth of the tank. You are not that deep so I would think 2-175 and then the PCs would work great.
I also think the double ends MH is stronger light, though I could be wrong. I have single ends!
Tim
 
milomlo

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Ok what do you mean double ends and single ends? Right now I run 50/50 PC's on my 29 gallon. I did have 1 12K and the 03 acts on it. I just changed bulbs and I am running the 50/50 like I said w/ 10K and 03 acts. I think I like the 10K's better than the 12K's. But that is PC I am figuring the MH are different though righ -- brighter??
 
moneyman

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Originally Posted by milomlo
Ok what do you mean double ends and single ends? Right now I run 50/50 PC's on my 29 gallon. I did have 1 12K and the 03 acts on it. I just changed bulbs and I am running the 50/50 like I said w/ 10K and 03 acts. I think I like the 10K's better than the 12K's. But that is PC I am figuring the MH are different though righ -- brighter??
If you look at the MH bulb, some of them have a single screw-on end. This is like your typical light bulb in your home. Other MH bulbs have 2 ends - kinda like your typical tube flourescent bulb. Double ended bulb puts out more light... probably because they take in more wattage.
I currently have 10k and thinking of switching to 12k. But, that's personal preference.
 
milomlo

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Here is a picture of the one I mentioned earlier that has 2 175W MH
It comes with mounting brackets and what not. This one looks like the light may not be obstructed by the center brace in the tank.
It is only 48" long though. Do you think that is ok to mount in the hood - Does that make since at all :notsure:
 
milomlo

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Hey Tim - I found a set up locally that is a 48" retro kit 2x175 for $75 bucks. All I have to do is add bulbs. Then I need to figure out how to add VHO or PC's to the set up. Do you think 48" is ok? The tank is 60
 
turningtim

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Originally Posted by milomlo
Hey Tim - I found a set up locally that is a 48" retro kit 2x175 for $75 bucks. All I have to do is add bulbs. Then I need to figure out how to add VHO or PC's to the set up. Do you think 48" is ok? The tank is 60
Does it have a hood? or just the fixtures? double or single end (HQI)?
If you have to make the hood the lights would work. But I'm just not sure about a 48" light on a 60". On the other hand the light does have to spread on its way down. Have you found any 60" lights/fixtures? :thinking:
Tim
 
turningtim

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Originally Posted by milomlo
Tim here is a picture.
WAX and TIM - Do you run your pump external or in sump?
It looks like they would be pretty centered on the tank. Have any idea what ballasts are with it. Bulbs are gonna run you $55-$100 depending on what/where you buy them. What will 4 PC retros cost you? I think PC would be a little more flexable than VHO.......
I run a dp800 (internal) on my 55 and haven't decided what to use on the 120, but thinking hard on external........
JMO
Tim
 
milomlo

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why are you thinking external? I would think that would be much louder?? I don't know though.
What all would I need to buy to be able to add PC's to this set up?
 
wax32

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Originally Posted by milomlo
Tim here is a picture.
WAX and TIM - Do you run your pump external or in sump?
I run mine in the sump. That way you don't have to drill the sump, BUT it adds a little more heat to your water.
 
wax32

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I have an external pump running my closed loop and I have to say, I never really hear it at all. Never hear my chiller either for that matter.
The fans in my canopy drown out all other noise!
 
milomlo

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
It looks like they would be pretty centered on the tank. Have any idea what ballasts are with it. Bulbs are gonna run you $55-$100 depending on what/where you buy them. What will 4 PC retros cost you? I think PC would be a little more flexable than VHO.......
I run a dp800 (internal) on my 55 and haven't decided what to use on the 120, but thinking hard on external........
JMO
Tim
Here is what he said:
This is not an HQI, but a regular single ended mogul socket bulb. Ballast are dual m57 mounted in a remote box. Retro kit made by Hamilton, and is heavy duty, made for reef applications.
Wax - do you prefer internal. I was told by someone else to use an external. :notsure:
Is the heat from the Pump bad? I would just imagine you would adjust your heater. Maybe won't need a heater with MH now either huh
 
milomlo

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Originally Posted by wax32
I have an external pump running my closed loop and I have to say, I never really hear it at all. Never hear my chiller either for that matter.
The fans in my canopy drown out all other noise!

:hilarious
:hilarious

I have to say actually now that you mention it I don't hear my mag5 either. My skimmer makes more noise than anything.
 
wax32

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I don't have room under my stand for an external pump... or I would probably have gotten my guy to drill the sump and used an external one.
As far as heat... who knows, my room is hot and I have a LOT of light over my tank. My heater never comes on during the day but my chiller does, a lot!

You might still need a heater at night, you don't want your water temp to drop too low.
My heater keeps my tank from ever going below 78 (at night) and my chiller keeps it from ever going above 80.
 
wax32

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Originally Posted by milomlo
My skimmer makes more noise than anything.

Never hear mine.
 
milomlo

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Well I don't know how much room I am going to have. I may make my own sump/refugium who knows. I might just use my 29 gallon. Do you think it is big enough?
 
wax32

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If you use your 29, I'd just make it a sump to put your heater and skimmer in. The refugium part of my 29 is very small, I'd say it would almost be useless on a 100 gallon tank.
http://www.zooxanthellae.com
The Sump
Since this picture I took the Chaetomorpha algae out and quit running the fuge light. In my sump I have a 6" sand bed in the fuge section (with some rubble), a Euro Reef skimmer, a phosban reactor, my eheim return pump and the sensors for my osmolator. It is pretty darn crowded. The fuge section is very small as you can see.
 
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