I want a fox
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kittykitty
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Originally posted by KittyKitty
Yeah but my lynx is going to take walks in the park with me and eat dinner at the table with me.
I'm going to teach him how to speak english too.
Note sarcasm.
Birdy, as a responsible aquarium hobbyist, I know plenty about giving an animal a good environment to live in. I give my reptiles (also an exotic and undomesticated animal) and my fish the best environment that I possibly can. Wouldn't have it any other way.
I certainly don't expect a lynx to behave like a domesticated animal. I do plan on getting it as a kitten and letting it become accustomed to human contact, however. I don't think this is any worse than owning a dog or a cat or an 18 foot long python. Even snakes and domesticated dogs can get a wild hair and attack for no apparent reason. I appreciate the fact that you are concerned.
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blackomne
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Originally posted by KittyKitty
I certainly don't expect a lynx to behave like a domesticated animal. I do plan on getting it as a kitten and letting it become accustomed to human contact, however. I don't think this is any worse than owning a dog or a cat or an 18 foot long python. Even snakes and domesticated dogs can get a wild hair and attack for no apparent reason. I appreciate the fact that you are concerned.
Just nuder it before it goes sexually active. A pets temper changes when they go active. If it was going to stay inside hopefully yes. Declaw the sucker. Both Sets.
birdy
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Sorry kitty- sometimes sarcasm is hard to read over a post !
You would be surpised that your sarcasm is exactly what people's idea of owning exotics is.
I have just seen so much of the horrible side of people owning exotics that I personally have to stand up against it. There is a huge difference between domestic dogs and cats than wild animals even if there were hand raised as babies (believe me I have done it and seen the results). Being a zookeeper has shown me what it does to wild animals being in captivity even in a fantastic zoo, with huge natural exhibits. It is part of the reason I don't know if I could go back to work in a zoo, much less keep one of these animals in my home.
!You would be surpised that your sarcasm is exactly what people's idea of owning exotics is.
I have just seen so much of the horrible side of people owning exotics that I personally have to stand up against it. There is a huge difference between domestic dogs and cats than wild animals even if there were hand raised as babies (believe me I have done it and seen the results). Being a zookeeper has shown me what it does to wild animals being in captivity even in a fantastic zoo, with huge natural exhibits. It is part of the reason I don't know if I could go back to work in a zoo, much less keep one of these animals in my home.
kittykitty
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Originally posted by blackomne
Just nuder it before it goes sexually active. A pets temper changes when they go active. If it was going to stay inside hopefully yes. Declaw the sucker. Both Sets.
I will never ever declaw a cat, not even the lynx. That's absolutely terrible. That's like chopping off the first two joints on all of your fingers. Nor would I ever neuter it.
birdy
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I agree! declawing is mutilation and horrible. I have seen so many animal surgeries I cannot even count them (Vet tech in a Clinic). The only surgery I have EVER felt sick at and had to sit down was a declaw and if you could see the poor cat's after the surgery you would never ever do that to an animal.
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daniel411
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Have you seen bengal cats? I really thought of one for awhile.
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birdy
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Daniel- Those are the coolest cat's ever. The white ones are really neat also. They look like snow leopards. I cannot remember do you know how they got the color like that are they bred with wild cats? They run about $400.00 around here. my husband would leave me if I spent $400.00 on a cat lol. But as far as I know they are domestic and would be a great option for someone who wants the look of a wild cat without the problems of keeping an exotic cat.
saltynewbie
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isnt a baby fox called a kit? maybe im wrong on this one....
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daniel411
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Originally posted by Birdy
Daniel- Those are the coolest cat's ever. The white ones are really neat also. They look like snow leopards. I cannot remember do you know how they got the color like that are they bred with wild cats? They run about $400.00 around here. my husband would leave me if I spent $400.00 on a cat lol. But as far as I know they are domestic and would be a great option for someone who wants the look of a wild cat without the problems of keeping an exotic cat.
Yeah the snow ones are breathtaking! They are a hybred between "some domestic cat" and an Asian Leopard cat. Currently they must be 4 generations away from the wild ancestors to "classify" as bengal cats. That way the wildness is pretty much bred out of them, but leaving the beautiful coats and muscle structure.
$400 sounds about average for around here. I've seen them as low as $250. I was REALLY planning on picking one up, especially after my cat died this past summer. I just don't want to have all my leather furniture destroyed while I'm working 16 hour days... as I've sort of joined the no "declawing" club
I've only heard two bad stories about them. One was second hand, so obviously suspect. The other was more comical, in that a friend had two of them... and his german shepherd was afraid of them. I think they were more of a first or second generation that he had. As they were about twice the size of a normal house cat. Almost every other bengal I've heard of though has been as tame as any other house cat. Though with a way cooler personality!
Originally posted by Birdy
my husband would leave me if I spent $400.00 on a cat lol.
Shhh... I won't tell! You have a saltwater tank... I'm sure he won't notice another big check written to for "pet stuff"
http://www.tibcs.com/home.php
http://www.exoticbengals.com/
birdy
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Speaking of the declawing issue. I have a cat and she never clawed furniture, well we got new couches and in anticipation of her wanting to mark the new stuff, I got her a new sratching post, but I also got these two sided sticky things that you put on your couch in the places they like to sratch (usually the corners) The residue doesn't harm the furniture and the cat's don't like to touch sticky stuff. They worked great, just a little FYI
If you get a bengal you will have to post some pictures they are really neat.
If you get a bengal you will have to post some pictures they are really neat.
nas19320
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Foxes do not make good pets at all, at least from what I have seen. A neighbor had a Silver fox name "Minky" and it was always out of control. It got into everything, was untrainable and if you tried to grab it it would bite. After about a year of trying to control it they decided it would be best to give it to a local zoo.
Though I know someone who owns a mountain lion but to get that they had to go through all kinds of legal matters. Its not really all that exciting of a pet and I kind of feel bad for it considering it spends its day in a small cage all day long.
Though I know someone who owns a mountain lion but to get that they had to go through all kinds of legal matters. Its not really all that exciting of a pet and I kind of feel bad for it considering it spends its day in a small cage all day long.
polarpooch
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ij ust want a red fox so i can pet its bushy tail.
OK, that was cute, aarone
You could always get a Pomeranian!!! It looks like a baby fox...and it has a bushy tail!
There is an exotic rescue facility here, and it's sad to see what happens to exotics that began as "pets" for well-meaning, but ill-prepared people. Foxes, I'm told are hellions to keep. Hell-raising pets are no fun.
OK, that was cute, aarone
You could always get a Pomeranian!!! It looks like a baby fox...and it has a bushy tail!
There is an exotic rescue facility here, and it's sad to see what happens to exotics that began as "pets" for well-meaning, but ill-prepared people. Foxes, I'm told are hellions to keep. Hell-raising pets are no fun.
littleguy
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I had a red/silver fox once. It was a really cool pet, it loved to play and was really calm. It would dig dens in the ground that could fit our golden retriever in it. We didnt need a license because it wasn't a pure red. The only problem we had was kids that would come in our backyard and let her off her leash.
blackomne
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Originally posted by SaltyNewbie
isnt a baby fox called a kit? maybe im wrong on this one....
Yes it is.
To KittyKitty: I do suggest nudering of wild animals because the animals change temperment at sexual maturity. I know many horror stories of people owning wild animals. And they were so nice until they got longer. And suddenly I can't get near them, they get hostile. They end up calling us to take the problem off their hands. And by that time our hands are tyed. We can't release them back to the wild because they don't have the skills to survive. So we end up penning them up, hopefully finding them a place at a zoo for awhile.
The sybille wildlife facility ends up taking several animals a year because people see a deer that looks abandoned and they want to take care of them. They try and fail because deer don't take to cow's milk and they don't realize mom didn't abandon. Mom was out drawing the predators away. Their is a mountain lion at the facility named Rambo that will go after you if turn your back on him. He was somones pet until he attacked his own owner. They keep him because he shows that wild animals are still wild even if captive raised.
So if you want a wild animal be warned. Now as for domesciated wild animals that still a possibility of them reverting back.
Even with that said. I would still love a set of black footed ferrets. I believe they would do better as pets than in the wild. I say that because the captive bred are trained to reenter the wild. On their own they the captive bred di not do so well without the training.