I wonder why Barack Obama and Tiger Woods are considered "African American"

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2533166
Exit polls show:
In S Carolina Obama got over 80% of the black vote
In Texas, polls show he received over 85%
In Mississippi he received over 90%
The list goes on...
Clearly, in the primaries, it is an advantage to him. Especially when you conisder they are very similar in their positions.
These are large minority states.... Care to mention Iowa, NH, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, Delaware....

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2533271
So you make my point for me... being democrat has a bigger influence in gaining votes than his ethnicity.
I tend to agree, Jesse Jackson, al Sharpton and those bozos don't care for their own race but are simply party henchmen for the democrat party to make sure the black people vote the left way.

 

[phelpz]

Apparently on standardized tests for schools theres going to be a circle that says "mixed." You know when you have to answer your race on them?

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2533277
These are large minority states.... Care to mention Iowa, NH, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, Delaware....
Ask and you shall receive;
I'll mention them in the order you listed:
Iowa is a caucus
NH has a less than 1% registered black vote
Wyoming is a caucus
Oregon votes in May
Washington is a caucus
Delware 82% of black vote went to Obama
In addition;
Black voters chose Obama over Clinton 82 percent to 16 percent in the Super Tuesday states (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar..._demographics/)

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2533271
So you make my point for me... being democrat has a bigger influence in gaining votes than his ethnicity.
The truth is we have no way of knowing how many blacks voted for Obama simply because he is black or half black or whatever he claims to be.
The more important fact is that so many blacks do traditionally vote for Democrats, (black, white or otherwise) whose party policies have actually held blacks down rather than allowing them to progress as they would otherwise.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2533285
I tend to agree, Jesse Jackson, al Sharpton and those bozos don't care for their own race but are simply party henchmen for the democrat party to make sure the black people vote the left way.
I disagree... These men do most of their work outside of the party...

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2533500
The truth is we have no way of knowing how many blacks voted for Obama simply because he is black or half black or whatever he claims to be.
The more important fact is that so many blacks do traditionally vote for Democrats, (black, white or otherwise) whose party policies have actually held blacks down rather than allowing them to progress as they would otherwise.
I don't think it matters how many... or why... its there vote... In addition you can ask how many white males vote McCain because he is the only white male in the race... My point is that people vote for all sorts of reasons... but I would say that the majority vote based on policy rather than characteristics.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2533376
Ask and you shall receive;
I'll mention them in the order you listed:
Iowa is a caucus
NH has a less than 1% registered black vote
Wyoming is a caucus
Oregon votes in May
Washington is a caucus
Delware 82% of black vote went to Obama
In addition;
Black voters chose Obama over Clinton 82 percent to 16 percent in the Super Tuesday states (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar..._demographics/)
What was it before Super Tuesday?... I bet #'s were closer.

 

[gonefishcrazy]

OMGosh. I dislike when people say how much black votes he gets. He gets alot of white votes also. I read a post on aol where a hispanic claims there's more hispanics than blacks in america, the person stated hispanics don't like blacks and blacks don't like hispanics. LOL. Im not even going to comment because I might offend someone. Anyway back to what I was saying, this only shows that America will always be racist.Instead of seeing a person everybody sees a black man and he's not even 100% black.IMO no matter what black person tries to become the president he will never be good enough to the racists people of America. In 2004, 2000, 1996, etc, was this issue so big on how many blacks voted for Kerry, Gore, Clinton, etc? Blacks have been voting for a white candidate for ever and now its such an issue about them voting for Obama. JM2C.

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2534539
OMGosh. I dislike when people say how much black votes he gets. He gets alot of white votes also. I read a post on aol where a hispanic claims there's more hispanics than blacks in america, the person stated hispanics don't like blacks and blacks don't like hispanics. LOL. Im not even going to comment because I might offend someone. Anyway back to what I was saying, this only shows that America will always be racist.Instead of seeing a person everybody sees a black man and he's not even 100% black.IMO no matter what black person tries to become the president he will never be good enough to the racists people of America. In 2004, 2000, 1996, etc, was this issue so big on how many blacks voted for Kerry, Gore, Clinton, etc? Blacks have been voting for a white candidate for ever and now its such an issue about them voting for Obama. JM2C.
We are not all racists. I will proudly support any candidate of any color as long as they have a record based on conservative principles.

 

[gonefishcrazy]

Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2534560
We are not all racists. I will proudly support any candidate of any color as long as they have a record based on conservative principles.
I did not say everybody is a racist. There's alot of racist people.

 

[beth]

I guess in light of the Pastor Wright event, where his speech about Obama seem to emphasize the African American end of Obama just very much puzzled me, because I don't really view him so much as an African American, or being raised and of the culture of African Americans. I don't think Obama has much first handed experience with African Americans, until he became an adult, married and African American woman. How does someone with a Caucasian American mother and father who is not remotely related to anything in the USA end up being African American? Could it be that African American want that?
I think historically labels were put on blacks and whites for divisive reasons, but nowadays, from my perspective, too many blacks continue to embrace those divisive lines more than many whites care to. And I know many blacks who agree with me too. I think Obama's initial appeal to many, regardless of race, was that he did not pigeon hole himself into embracing a particular race or culture. His appeal was not because he was black, white, or mixed, or whatever. People listened to his ideals, and nodded agreement. Unfortunately, the recent events emphasizing the black American end of things, may cost Obama the nomination. Blacks are a minority in the USA, and not even the largest minority. A president will need to be identified as representing everyone, not just one minority group. And if not everyone, then at least a majority of people who can identify with that candidate. That will never be a persona such as J. Jackson or Sharpton, because they do not represent the majority. Their views are not even representive of all black Americans.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/2534590
I guess in light of the Pastor Wright event, where his speech about Obama seem to emphasize the African American end of Obama just very much puzzled me, because I don't really view him so much as an African American, or being raised and of the culture of African Americans. I don't think Obama has much first handed experience with African Americans, until he became an adult, married and African American woman. How does someone with a Caucasian American mother and father who is not remotely related to anything in the USA end up being African American? Could it be that African American want that?
I think historically labels were put on blacks and whites for divisive reasons, but nowadays, from my perspective, too many blacks continue to embrace those divisive lines more than many whites care to. And I know many blacks who agree with me too. I think Obama's initial appeal to many, regardless of race, was that he did not pigeon hole himself into embracing a particular race or culture. His appeal was not because he was black, white, or mixed, or whatever. People listened to his ideals, and nodded agreement. Unfortunately, the recent events emphasizing the black American end of things, may cost Obama the nomination. Blacks are a minority in the USA, and not even the largest minority. A president will need to be identified as representing everyone, not just one minority group. And if not everyone, then at least a majority of people who can identify with that candidate. That will never be a persona such as J. Jackson or Sharpton, because they do not represent the majority. Their views are not even representive of all black Americans.
Hmmm... I agree with this... So as representation... who do you think represents are country best? Obama's message in a message of inclusion and unity... a message of hope and change.. a message that looks at our problems across the board...and attempts to find solutions for the things that bothers America... Its not a campaign of fear or old policies... its not a campaign of entitlement or divisive politics.. This is why people are buying into it and I would hate for something that in the bigger picture is insignificant would be sad.

 

[beth]

In terms of politics, it is left vs right, and left ideology (Clinton and Obama) as opposed to more right ideals (McCain). Don't be fooled into thinking that any of these candidates are going to deviate far from party lines...they will not because they will be crushed by their party if they do.
I don't see a lot of difference between what Clinton and Obama present as candidates. They are both Democrats and embrace a liberal or left political and social ideal. Obama is just a better communicator. If Obama brings anything different to the table, it is his abilities as a communicator, which both Clinton and McCain lack.
The citizens of the USA are looking for a liberator from the many, and even overwhelming, problems we now face. Obama is the best speaker and communicator and gives inspiring, emotional speeches, which neither Hillary or McCain can do. That doesn't mean he's the solution to all our problems. If he is the nominee, I will see what he actually says about strategies to make America better, not just blindly embrace the rhetoric. It is easy to say that you are going to do this, do that, do everything to make America better. I want to know the how is he going to do it? So far, it sounds like a big price tag on many of the things he wants to do. And the ones paying for that is not Obama but me, and everyone else on this board and in this country who works for living.

 

[breiwa1]

Originally Posted by fishyCPA
http:///forum/post/2530086
Why can't we all just be American's? What does the race of a person matter?

 

[salty blues]

Obama=smooth talk and little substance.

 

[gonefishcrazy]

Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2535100
Obama=smooth talk and little substance.
Thats funny. Every body talks a great talk but whether its obama clinton or mccain who knows what they are capable of? HMMMM. OBAMA,CLINTON, MCCAIN= NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT. Are you mad because people listen to and believe his speeches more than hillary and mccain speeches? Cause thats what we have so far speeches. Until one become president they don;t have any experience.

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2535193
Thats funny. Every body talks a great talk but whether its obama clinton or mccain who knows what they are capable of? HMMMM. OBAMA,CLINTON, MCCAIN= NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT. Are you mad because people listen to and believe his speeches more than hillary and mccain speeches? Cause thats what we have so far speeches. Until one become president they don;t have any experience.
I'm not mad about anything. And, with the exception of incumbents, no person who runs has ever been president.

 

[reefmate75]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2529383
There is some kind of rule that your race is based on. something like the percentage or parentage or something. if one of you parents are black, you are legally considered black. don't ask me why this is, I didn't make up the rule.
I also don't know why my county jail's booking site has Latinos listed as "white". either they are too lazy to update their system, or they are trying to drive up the white crime rate.
dark skin is the dominate trate...and that is a stupid rule
its like if a white and a mexican have a baby the kid more then likly becuase dark skin is the dominate trate will have darker skin children,
i dont belive its a rule its just what people see and they dont stop to think hey this is a mixed person, they see dark skin and frizzy black hair they say afercan american, but maybe this child was from both mexicans but had afercan blood line somewhere up the linage and it just poped out withen this child, BECUASE black is dominate it can come out in a child even when both parents are white, a half white/black woman, with a black male coul dhave a white child (i know one of my friends went threw this and it didnt go over very well) the daddy divorced his wife befor he even had the child tested to see if it was his, all becuase of skin color i mean i would have atleast had the blood tested befor i disowned his/her mother
atleast they are back together but crista dosent trust him as much and he dosent trust her as much eather, but they are together and its a start

 

[gonefishcrazy]

Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2535397
I'm not mad about anything. And, with the exception of incumbents, no person who runs has ever been president.
Exactly. But you said he's just a smooth talker, like another candidate been there done that. I can say the same thing about all the other candidates.