:( Ich in Reef

dani

dani

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This morning I noticed that my clown, tangs, and angel are covered in ich.
They eat like pigs and are swimming normally. Thinking back to the weekend, they were breathing a little harder than normal on Sunday, but no signs of anything.
I do not have a QT big enough for all 4 fish. Should I do a dip? Unfortunately, I'm limited in what I can do as my tank is here in the office where I work (has its +'s and definitely -'s).
Previously my orbiculate bat always had ich, but none of the other fish would get it. He never seemed to be bothered by it. The PJ Cardinal is the only one who has never been infected.
Really don't want to risk losing any of them
Especially the Desjardinii Sailfin, as she has gained some good weight and now has such a pretty color.
 
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abeandlulu

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Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine. IMO a QT does more harm that good.. It puts more stress on the fish trying to catch them and then putting them into another tank.
 
dani

dani

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/post/3131591
I think you have two options. Try to rid the tank of Ich, try to do maintenance to it and hope for the best.
Have a read here.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/127007/faqs-fish-diseases-treatments-quarantine-health-info
Hey Spanko..
I've always done "maintenance" with the ich, as I had an orb. bat that always had ich breakouts. Now that he is gone this is the first time I'm seeing it in the tank
I am religious with my water changes. I feed all my food with zoecon.
I will have to get the fresh garlic and start adding that.
I've read that thread a lot and its been a help. I'm just limited with what I can do here at work
 
dani

dani

Member
Originally Posted by abeandlulu
http:///forum/post/3131592
Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine. IMO a QT does more harm that good.. It puts more stress on the fish trying to catch them and then putting them into another tank.
They eat 3x/day
going to go get some fresh garlic to add to their food.
 
dani

dani

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should I let the tank stay a little on the warmer side? It's been hanging between 80 and 81. Should I let it warm up to 82? I think I read on another thread a post by Meowzer or Flower about keeping the tank a little warmer?
 
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abeandlulu

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I was under the impression that garlic was for finnicky eaters. Vit. C helps keep them healthy. I put in my fish food all the time. JMO.
 
mkroher

mkroher

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Originally Posted by abeandlulu
http:///forum/post/3131592
Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine. IMO a QT does more harm that good.. It puts more stress on the fish trying to catch them and then putting them into another tank.
What?!
 
dani

dani

Member
Originally Posted by abeandlulu
http:///forum/post/3131596
I was under the impression that garlic was for finnicky eaters. Vit. C helps keep them healthy. I put in my fish food all the time. JMO.
I've always done Zoecon and then added fresh garlic when problems like this occur. I did QT multiple times with my Batfish and it was never a problem. I just don't have a QT large enough to house all 4 fish for 6 weeks
 
cranberry

cranberry

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I wouldn't heat up that tank, if anything I would lower it. You stated they had been gilling heavily, taking away oxygen will definitely cause them more stress. Increased temp = decreased available oxygen.
The increasing temp idea is based on the fact the parasite goes through it's life cycle faster. Some people encourage that to get them in the treatable stage of their lifecycle faster... but you aren't really treating. You don't want them reproducing faster and more abundantly.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Must have been Flower (regarding temp)....LOL...I never had ich (knocking on wood) BUT I think she has dealt with it, and soaks food in garlic too
Selcon is a good vitamin to add also
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine./QUOTE]
ummm in my very Uneducated opinion that is so WRONG
 
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abeandlulu

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3131657
ummm in my very Uneducated opinion that is so WRONG
Then what would be your advice? This has always worked for me I am just giving my opinion from having delt with the problem.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by abeandlulu
http:///forum/post/3131698
Then what would be your advice? This has always worked for me I am just giving my opinion from having delt with the problem.
Well my advice is not really the point. My post was in reference to your statement.
Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine
While vitamin c can help in fighting infections and help a suppressed immune system. It does nothing for eliminating the ick parasite in ones DT. Cleaner shrimp may remove some of the parasites infecting your fish, but those are hit and miss. You would need multiple shrimp and they would have to remove all the parasites that have infected all of your fish
Keep them well fed and add some Viatmin C to the food and get a cleaner shrimp and they should be fine
Is giving out the wrong information IMO
 
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abeandlulu

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I was just giving my opinion on how I treated the Ick in my tank. I got a new fish. He had what I was assuming the parasite and almost every fish in my tank got ich. At the time i had no cleaner shrimp in the tank. So i went out and bought one. I added the Vitamin C to the food and within a couple day all my fish were fine and have not had a problem with it since. I also have a UV sterilizer on the tank. I guess I should not have said that "they would be fine"
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Please do not take my post personally. There is a very real problem with people taking advise as being an absolute. When someone posts “ do this and all will be fine” it may in fact cause a hobbyist to forgo other more mainstream alternatives and the time lost can be detrimental to the fish
 
dani

dani

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3131649
Must have been Flower (regarding temp)....LOL...I never had ich (knocking on wood) BUT I think she has dealt with it, and soaks food in garlic too
Selcon is a good vitamin to add also
hey meowzer
I use Selcon, not zoecon. I always get them mixed up. The pink bottle with the dropper cap ..
Since mine are gilling a little more, I'm not toying with temp. They are all eating like the little piggies they are. So I'm happy bout that.
 
cydab

cydab

Member
raising the salinity and maintaining the temp at around 80 worked in my tank, that may be a coincident, i had a brake-out in my tank but since i raised the salinity and the temp its gone, every now and the tangs get a spot or two but it goes away by it self. maybe i got lucky see what the expert have to say about this theory. hope this helps
 
cranberry

cranberry

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If the gills are infested with ich, I wouldn't touch the temp or salinity. It's easier for them to respire in lower salinity and there will be more oxygen available to them at lower temps.
 
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