IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE ONE: HILLARY or OBAMA?

reefraff

reefraff

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I the unthinkable happens and Obama or Clinton do get elected Huckabee would be considered a frontrunner for 2012. He just needs to cool it with the preacher talk. It gives the opposition too many sound bites to use to paint him as a religious nut jub. I think he was by far the best informed and most sinciere candidate on either side. You could see the guy actually think about questions asked rather than spouting out canned answers.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Huckabee lost me when he held the press Conference to announce he wasn't going to run an attack Ad against Romney. Then he proceeded to show the Ad to a room full of reporters... It was a sleezy attack far beneath a Baptist Minister.
 
harris28

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2462756
Contrary to what Ann Colter says, you can't be a Conservative and vote for either Clinton or Obama. If you do then you are not voting on their records or their positions or policies, you are voting on their personalities.
Obama would destroy our military. You think morale was low under Clinton? Just wait till a President tells them they lost in Iraq and to retreat immediately.... They both would destroy our health care system. And they both would destroy many aspects of the Constitution and States' Rights. Not to mention what they would do to the Supreme Court and other judge appointments.
Huckabee cannot get the nomination. He would have to win over 80% of the remaining delegates. That's just not reasonable, and the fact that he hasn't realized that makes me believe he's not smart enough to be President. Nor is he smart enough to be VP.
I had made it very clear that I despise McCain. That said, after talking to some friends who are in the military I'm leaning towards gritting my teeth and voting for him in November... even though 3 days ago I swore I never would...

But he is smart. His name is now getting out. Maybe not this time but in 4 or 8 years we are going to remember him as the one who fought till the end. Sure he should give up because he wont get the numbers but I think he is playing it smart by getting his name out and if he shows the will, he might be the VP.
 
gonefishcrazy

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I read this post and thought I would post it here:
If you people really think every scandal has broken on Hillary Clinton you're on crack. We haven't heard about Norman Hsu in this campaign yet, we haven't heard about Peter Paul which will go to trial next week and make Rezco look like child's play, we haven't heard about Mark Penn's ties to Charlie Black (John McCain's chief advisor's firm), and we haven't heard about Hillary destorying a 12-year old ---- victim on the stand. Hillary Clinton already CAN'T WIN! She's got higher negatives than Richard Nixon for crying out loud. What do you think is going to happen to her after this? Give me a break. She's managed to alienate young people, African Americans, and white men who can read and don't live in Ohio. Get serious. She can't win and she knows it. All she's doing is going for a Pyrrhic victory. Barack Obama crooked? You people seriously live in a bubble. George H.W. Bush, Bush II, Cheney and Bill Clinton all have ties to the Carlyle Group. Does anyone know what that is? A group that has deep ties to Saudi Arabia and benefits off it. Anyone know who the CFO of the Carlyle Group is. Your own dear John Harris a co-founder of the Politico right here. Don't you ever wonder why Ben Smith and other journalists here always run so many pro-Hillary stories. You people are being mainpulated by powers you don't even know exist. Barack Obama crooked and the Clintons reformers. Puh-lease.
 
gonefishcrazy

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They have been word spreading around that the republicans in ohio and texas voted for hillary to keep the democrats going at each other and to keep wasting their money because they knew mccain was already in.Have anybody seen those bulletins anywherThey want them to keep smearing each other while mccain focus on his fight against them.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2506834
They have been word spreading around that the republicans in ohio and texas voted for hillary to keep the democrats going at each other and to keep wasting their money because they knew mccain was already in.Have anybody seen those bulletins anywherThey want them to keep smearing each other while mccain focus on his fight against them.
I'm actually one of those Texans that did just that.
It's not about "smearing", it's about the National Media. By keeping obama and Hillary both in the race the media can't fully choose which candidate to support (though they are leaning heavily towards Obombus), and as a result they will continue to report more accurately on both.
Once the Dems pick a candidate we'll be back to the same ole liberal media preaching the virtues of the democratic nominee...
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by phelpz
http:///forum/post/2506983
How is the media liberal?
I mean, News Corp. sure isnt.
There have been numerous studies showing statistically the major media favor the liberal agenda. Democratic candidates get more positive stories, more front page time, etc.
take the NY Times as a great example. They endorsed McCain as the Republican candidate, then a couple of weeks ago printed that ridiculous attack piece against him. interesting, when you consider they had been holding onto that news story for months; They endorsed him knowing they were then going to run the attack story on him.
 
zman1

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2506976
By keeping obama and Hillary both in the race the media can't fully choose which candidate to support (though they are leaning heavily towards Obombus)...

Not any more
...
P.S. I deleted the other post- was hoping to get a PM from you...
Wolf on CNN was so pro Clinton until she lost all of the states during the prior primary/caucuses. He backed off, thinking has has to stop favoring the loser. Since she took 3 of the 4 states in the last one, he's back on his game. LOL
I actually like watching CNN and FOX. The only one I don't like on FOX is Hannity, he never lets anyone finish, if they don't support his views. I still will watch it though...
 
phelpz

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I dont know, I dont really think any news publication, or network should endorse anyone. And that was pretty whack of the NY Times to run that story after endorsing him. They gotta make money, and thats what sells papers.
But I'm sure if Bush, or the Republican Party in general had a higher approval rate they would run more positive stories about them. But also I guess if they did run more positive stories about them they probably would have a higher approval rate.
I pretty much gave up on all the networks. I used to watch CNN and the other networks all day, and read a lot of news articles online, but now not so much. Too biased for me.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/2507004
Not any more
...
P.S. I deleted the other post- was hoping to get a PM from you...
Wolf on CNN was so pro Clinton until she lost all of the states during the prior primary/caucuses. He backed off, thinking has has to stop favoring the loser. Since she took 3 of the 4 states in the last one, he back on his game. LOL
I actually like watching CNN and FOX. The only one I don't like on FOX is Hannity, he never lets anyone finish, if they don't support his views. I still will watch it though...
The post about McCain being born in Panama?
I like Hannity, but I agree... many times he talks over people. Half of the time if he'd give them some more time to talk they'd hang themselves

Ya, you saw a shift in press coverage actually just before the Ohio/Texas primaries. Mathmatically it's still a very uphill battle for her.
Honestly, as much as I don't like, respect, or agree with her, I do believe she could handle foreign affairs better than Obama.... so if a Dem has to win I'd rather it be her.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by phelpz
http:///forum/post/2506983
How is the media liberal?
I mean, News Corp. sure isnt.
The chairman of newscorp held a fundraiser for hillary, doesn't exactly sound like a right winger but even assuming Fox was the right wing propaganda machine the left falsly portrays it as. It wouldn't begin to balance out the liberal bent of MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, Times, Tribune etc.
 
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