invasion of the algae?

scott79

Member
ok i have this algae in my tank i have no idea what it is. it comes in shades of red and black and its grows like crazy. it grows over my corals and i have to brush it off. Heres a pic---

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veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by scott79
http:///forum/post/2876073
ok i have this algae in my tank i have no idea what it is. it comes in shades of red and black and its grows like crazy. it grows over my corals and i have to brush it off. Heres a pic---

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cyano bacteria.Use the search function in the blue bar above and you will find ever thing you need to know on what, why and how to get rid of it.
 

scott79

Member
so i went out and bought 4 turbo snails and within a day my hermits had killed them... is that normal?
 

t316

Active Member
I feel your pain...
Hermits are cool, and they clean a lot of stuff, but they can be vicious as well. Like meowzer said, they can/will kill snails to steal their shells. Snails can grow their shells, as they grow, but crabs cannot, so if you are going to keep hermits in the tank, always keep some extra shells in there that are larger than the one's the hermits are currently inhabitating. Even still, they sometimes still go after the snails, especially blue legged hermit crabs. As pretty as mine were/are, I have slowly started to remove them as they get bigger.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/2886439
I feel your pain...
Hermits are cool, and they clean a lot of stuff, but they can be vicious as well. Like meowzer said, they can/will kill snails to steal their shells. Snails can grow their shells, as they grow, but crabs cannot, so if you are going to keep hermits in the tank, always keep some extra shells in there that are larger than the one's the hermits are currently inhabitating. Even still, they sometimes still go after the snails, especially blue legged hermit crabs. As pretty as mine were/are, I have slowly started to remove them as they get bigger.
I thought it was the red legged hermits that were the bad ones???
 

t316

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2886450
I thought it was the red legged hermits that were the bad ones???
Could be them too, but my blue-legged hermits were causing havoc, especially the bigger they got, and I have plenty of extra shells in there. Such a shame too, they are such awesome looking creatures. But after seeing snail after snail get murdered, enough was enough. The smaller one's do okay for me, it's just the 3/4" + size that start to really get aggressive. I think it's a combination of bullying for a potential new shell, as well as killing for food.
 

meowzer

Moderator
well I just ordered 10 blue legged ones thinking they would be ok...hopefully they are small and will just eat the extra stuff and leave the snails alone...
 

t316

Active Member
They are beautiful crabs, but it's a give/take relationship in trying to satisfy them while trying to prevent the above from happening..... Here's what I mean, based on my theory (mentioned earlier) as to why they were killing, I provided more extra shells and I would feed a little extra so that some would fall to the substrate to keep them fed, thinking this would slow down the attacks. Well, it did, but then I end up with one algea outbreak after another because of all the excess food. So I cut back to normal feedings, algea gets better but the serial killers resurface. So I concluded that it has to be a larger ratio of snails to crabs, and keep the crabs to a smaller, managable size. It seems to be working.
Yours probably will be small, as most are. The last one that I just took out was the size of a golfball, no exaggeration. So now I just have the dime/nickle size one's in the tank and murder rate has declined.
 

pbnj

Member
I only keep Mexican Red-Legged Hermits (NOT Scarlets). I have about 20 in my 75g tank and I keep Turbo/Nerite/Cerith snails with no problems.
 

fishhunter

Member
Regarding hermits I added a bunch of empty shells of all sorts when i put them in to the tank so far they have left my snails alone.
 
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