Iodine level in fowlr?
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crimzy
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2738558
It's not needed.
Actually this is not true, (no offense Bang). An iodine deficiency can lead to several conditions in your fish. One of which is goiter... I recently treated my ray that was suffering from goiter with, among other things, iodine.
I've read that iodine should be at approximately 0.5 -0.7 (forgot what units).
http:///forum/post/2738558
It's not needed.
Actually this is not true, (no offense Bang). An iodine deficiency can lead to several conditions in your fish. One of which is goiter... I recently treated my ray that was suffering from goiter with, among other things, iodine.
I've read that iodine should be at approximately 0.5 -0.7 (forgot what units).
bang guy
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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2738788
Actually this is not true, (no offense Bang). An iodine deficiency can lead to several conditions in your fish. One of which is goiter... I recently treated my ray that was suffering from goiter with, among other things, iodine.
I've read that iodine should be at approximately 0.5 -0.7 (forgot what units).
Fish don't get their Iodine from the water, they get it from their food. I stand by by statement that there is no need to dose Iodine in a FOWLR.
Are you sure about the levels you listed or did you possible mean somewhere around 0.06ppm?
** edited - Let me restate to say MOST fish, I really don't know anything about Sharks & Rays so I'll have to take your word for it.
http:///forum/post/2738788
Actually this is not true, (no offense Bang). An iodine deficiency can lead to several conditions in your fish. One of which is goiter... I recently treated my ray that was suffering from goiter with, among other things, iodine.
I've read that iodine should be at approximately 0.5 -0.7 (forgot what units).
Fish don't get their Iodine from the water, they get it from their food. I stand by by statement that there is no need to dose Iodine in a FOWLR.
Are you sure about the levels you listed or did you possible mean somewhere around 0.06ppm?
** edited - Let me restate to say MOST fish, I really don't know anything about Sharks & Rays so I'll have to take your word for it.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by fau8
http:///forum/post/2739227
In a fish only its not needed. Normal water changes will keep it present. It needs to be supplemented in a reef setup because the soft fleshy parts of corals use it in their gowth process.
Excessive amounts are harmful to invertibrates.
If you can show me the results of a scientific study that concludes that corals other than Black Coral and Deep Sea Gorgonians require Iodine in the water column to grow then I will believe you.
Until then I would never recommend adding Iodine to the water. It has no known benefits but a big risk if overdosed.
http:///forum/post/2739227
In a fish only its not needed. Normal water changes will keep it present. It needs to be supplemented in a reef setup because the soft fleshy parts of corals use it in their gowth process.
Excessive amounts are harmful to invertibrates.
If you can show me the results of a scientific study that concludes that corals other than Black Coral and Deep Sea Gorgonians require Iodine in the water column to grow then I will believe you.
Until then I would never recommend adding Iodine to the water. It has no known benefits but a big risk if overdosed.
crimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2739245
Fish don't get their Iodine from the water, they get it from their food. I stand by by statement that there is no need to dose Iodine in a FOWLR.
Are you sure about the levels you listed or did you possible mean somewhere around 0.06ppm?
** edited - Let me restate to say MOST fish, I really don't know anything about Sharks & Rays so I'll have to take your word for it.
Yes, I did mean 0.06 ppm. And regarding sharks and rays, Fenner has indicated that goiter is caused by an iodine deficiency. Based on this, I successfully treated with iodine and vitamins.
http:///forum/post/2739245
Fish don't get their Iodine from the water, they get it from their food. I stand by by statement that there is no need to dose Iodine in a FOWLR.
Are you sure about the levels you listed or did you possible mean somewhere around 0.06ppm?
** edited - Let me restate to say MOST fish, I really don't know anything about Sharks & Rays so I'll have to take your word for it.
Yes, I did mean 0.06 ppm. And regarding sharks and rays, Fenner has indicated that goiter is caused by an iodine deficiency. Based on this, I successfully treated with iodine and vitamins.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2739269
Yes, I did mean 0.06 ppm. And regarding sharks and rays, Fenner has indicated that goiter is caused by an iodine deficiency. Based on this, I successfully treated with iodine and vitamins.
So in your opinion they can receive supplemental Iodine through the water column? Or, do they receive it from the shells of the crustaceans they eat? How did you deliver the Iodine & Vitamins to your Ray?
http:///forum/post/2739269
Yes, I did mean 0.06 ppm. And regarding sharks and rays, Fenner has indicated that goiter is caused by an iodine deficiency. Based on this, I successfully treated with iodine and vitamins.
So in your opinion they can receive supplemental Iodine through the water column? Or, do they receive it from the shells of the crustaceans they eat? How did you deliver the Iodine & Vitamins to your Ray?
crimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2739322
So in your opinion they can receive supplemental Iodine through the water column? Or, do they receive it from the shells of the crustaceans they eat? How did you deliver the Iodine & Vitamins to your Ray?
I added the Iodine with the food so it would be ingested by the ray. I did the same thing with Zoe vitamins. Also, I used Mazuri shark vitamins, which are basically a gelatin food themselves.
http:///forum/post/2739322
So in your opinion they can receive supplemental Iodine through the water column? Or, do they receive it from the shells of the crustaceans they eat? How did you deliver the Iodine & Vitamins to your Ray?
I added the Iodine with the food so it would be ingested by the ray. I did the same thing with Zoe vitamins. Also, I used Mazuri shark vitamins, which are basically a gelatin food themselves.
mantisman51
Active Member
Now this is why I frequent here. Great info. I am not a reefer, but when I bought my LR from a reefer, he had 2 beautiful reef tanks, 300 and 80 gal. I asked him about this very subject and he said in his 12 years of reefing, he'd never had to add iodine, calcium or anything else. He did regular water changes of 10% every 2 weeks and "You can see everything is healthy". So, I tend to think I'd go with the "doesn't need it" side.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2739335
I added the Iodine with the food so it would be ingested by the ray. I did the same thing with Zoe vitamins. Also, I used Mazuri shark vitamins, which are basically a gelatin food themselves.
Well then, you really haven't convinced me. Had you dosed Iodine into the water and the Ray became healthy I would store that in the "Positive anecdotal evidince" bin. Since you administered the Iodine through food it really doesn't support dosing the water with Iodine in my humble opinion.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Iodine level in your water were even above normal when your Ray acquired the goiter. I really believe they get their Iodine from food and not from the water.
http:///forum/post/2739335
I added the Iodine with the food so it would be ingested by the ray. I did the same thing with Zoe vitamins. Also, I used Mazuri shark vitamins, which are basically a gelatin food themselves.
Well then, you really haven't convinced me. Had you dosed Iodine into the water and the Ray became healthy I would store that in the "Positive anecdotal evidince" bin. Since you administered the Iodine through food it really doesn't support dosing the water with Iodine in my humble opinion.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Iodine level in your water were even above normal when your Ray acquired the goiter. I really believe they get their Iodine from food and not from the water.