Is low salt bad?

aztec reef

aztec reef

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Originally Posted by JJJoey
http:///forum/post/2700940
i really like zoas, toadstools, and xenias
would those all be ok?
yes, they are all soft corals.. just stay away from hard corals (sps).for now.
Reason is that soft corals such as discosoma and actinodiscus release toxic chemical and can easily overwhelm many (if not most) stony coral either through chemical warfare or direct physical contact. (growth inhibitors?), which can affect surrounding corals such as Acropora spp. and Porites spp.(sps species) and could kill them.
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2700868
The only problem is that a lfs is the worst place to get advice...
I never said get advice, I said get answers. if you ask enough questions you can double check a lot of the common info at home in books, libraries, periodicals and know whether or not your getting steered in the right direction. usually they will tell you who they buy through as you cant buy from a wholesaler without a business acount. why would they hide where they get their fish through, and I answer if they are shady enough to not provide the information you know they buy from questionable sellers.
 
reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2700913
But fyi: all sicknesses start from inadecude environments, polluted water, poor dietry habits, immunity enhancement, due to chemical supplements/medicinal practices, fluctuation regularity, numerous acclimation processes(before it even gets in your tank) and so, on,and on..
If Ich was a common sickness in NSW, it would wipe -out any reef into oblivion..
well that will just be your little secret then wont it.
 
reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2700945
yeah,if water levels are good, start adding corals gradually.(especially fishes) since they make up most of bioload, thus you'll need to keep them to a minimun, this can be tweaked alittle depending on biological capacity & your tank's filtration abilities.. Patience is a key element when building a stable reef.
I agree 110%
 
jjjoey

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i tested the water it is at 28 salinity and im using a hydrometer from instant ocean salt :(
i need a refractometer
1.0205 specific grav
think my hydrometer is faulty?
 
aztec reef

aztec reef

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Originally Posted by JJJoey
http:///forum/post/2701158
i tested the water it is at 28 salinity and im using a hydrometer from instant ocean salt :(
i need a refractometer
1.0205 specific grav
think my hydrometer is faulty?
No, thats about right.. 28=1.020 (hydrometer) & 1.020 on a hydro =1.023-4 on a refracto.
 
aztec reef

aztec reef

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2701097
I never said get advice, I said get answers. if you ask enough questions you can double check a lot of the common info at home in books, libraries, periodicals and know whether or not your getting steered in the right direction. usually they will tell you who they buy through as you cant buy from a wholesaler without a business acount. why would they hide where they get their fish through, and I answer if they are shady enough to not provide the information you know they buy from questionable sellers.
If their advice and knowledge is lamer than circus lemonade, how much better can any of their answers be???..
Yes, but seekers of info in books and libraries are lacking, especially with new hobyists, they tend to take the easy route and just show up at the lfs and buy whatever the get drawn to. regardless of habitat and compatibility knowledge..
I don't think lfs would tell u their wholesaler, thats like a good restaurant giving their recepies to other restaurants... They might tell u what region or part of earth they're "usually" collected from. Thus why their info matches conventional research.
I think their wholesaler info is confidential, (unless your're buddys with the owner/employees). Plus why would u need to know who their wholesaler is???
Unless you're starting a lfs of your own, thats why confidenciality among competitors must remain.
I could careless who the wholesaler is, all i want to know is where wholesaler's livestock was collected from?? rather than telling me what conventional info states..
 
1journeyman

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Unnaturally low salinity kills inverts.
It may take some corals longer to show adverse affects, but a reef tank needs stable water parameters, including salinity.
While there are locations around the world where salinity differs, the bulk of the reefs in the world are located in "normal" parameters.
 
aztec reef

aztec reef

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2701115
well that will just be your little secret then wont it.
Its no secret, why is Ich a virus that thrives on controlled aquariums vs. NSW ????
And if all viruses starts as bacterial. How do u think bacterial infections start??
by viruses,germs,infections,food poisoning,unsanitary conditions,environmental fluctuations,pollution,chemical inbalances,foreign matter,and cellular reactions. Thus a virus is aka toxin/poison on the verge of life.. And since evolutionary biology is the scientific foundation of all biology, which means that biology is the foundation of all medecines..
 
aztec reef

aztec reef

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2701426
Unnaturally low salinity kills inverts.
It may take some corals longer to show adverse affects, but a reef tank needs stable water parameters, including salinity.
While there are locations around the world where salinity differs, the bulk of the reefs in the world are located in "normal" parameters.
Apperantly, it doesn't kill inverts on lfs.. It just stresses them out even more, so that when hobyists buy them they're prone to infections or even death due to osmotic shock, or flaunting the hidden desease that u didn't see at the lfs's low salinity tanks. thus making the acclimation and their environmental's change harsh, due to the novel fluctuations greater than they're immuned to endure... (this is the case where inverts die the next day). As only the fittest of the fit prevails..
 
reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2701427
And if all viruses starts as bacterial. How do u think bacterial infections start??
viruses arent bacterial. Simply put, bacterial infections are caused by bacteria and viral infections are caused by viruses. But they're also different in other ways.
Unlike bacteria, viruses are not "living" organisms but capsules of genetic material. They require living hosts — such as people, plants or animals — to multiply. Otherwise, they can't survive. When a virus enters your body, it invades some of your cells and takes over the cell machinery, redirecting it to produce the virus. bacteria doesnt need a host animal.
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2701425
If their advice and knowledge is lamer than circus lemonade, how much better can any of their answers be???..
Yes, but seekers of info in books and libraries are lacking, especially with new hobyists, they tend to take the easy route and just show up at the lfs and buy whatever the get drawn to. regardless of habitat and compatibility knowledge.. sad but true
I don't think lfs would tell u their wholesaler, thats like a good restaurant giving their recepies to other restaurants... They might tell u what region or part of earth they're "usually" collected from. Thus why their info matches conventional research.I have never had a hard time with them telling me who they buy from, in fact in some cases like ORA suppliers can be a sort of bragging right and a reasont to charge more. like I said if they wont tell you they are buying from a shady seller
I think their wholesaler info is confidential, (unless your're buddys with the owner/employees). Plus why would u need to know who their wholesaler is???
Unless you're starting a lfs of your own, thats why confidenciality among competitors must remain.i dont find this to be true, but of course it may from store to store, and I shall re-iterate if they wont tell you they are hiding it.
I could careless who the wholesaler is, all i want to know is where wholesaler's livestock was collected from?? rather than telling me what conventional info states.. thats usually part of the information about their whoelsaler, or information you can get by contacting the wholesaler, wholesalers are generally happy to answer what questions they can, unless again they are the shady type.
I put some responses in red so I would have to edit in quote tags around everything
 
jjjoey

jjjoey

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so my salt is ok?
if its 1.020 on a hydro then its actually higher?
do i still need to raise it?
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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specific gravity depends on temperature. what temperature is you tank with the specific gravity of 1.020
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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at 77degrees your actual Sg is 1.0228 insted of 1.020. keep going up. at 77 degrees you want your SG to READ 1.023-1.025 which will give you a real SG of 1.0248- 1.0268, wich is a good range for invertabretes.
 
jjjoey

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the lights heat up the tank more during the day maybe to even 80
i am going to buy some more salt
i might have to do a water change :( because my flameangel died and i checked my nitrates and they are almost 40
 
jjjoey

jjjoey

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uh oh.
my pH is at 7.8 and ammonia at .25 and my nitrates are at 40

stupid dead fish
how should i fix all this?
 
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