Is the war with Iran coming?
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darthtang aw
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There is no serious worry of a nuke in our backyard from a missle launched from Iran. However this scenario I am about to describe does frighten me more so than any other scenario involving mad leaders I have thought of. This is almost (not really) close to as bad a Germany's holocaust. Here it goes.
Iran reaches nuclear capabilities. Ayatolla sharif delmuhhamad walla walla walla bing bang pronoiunces his country as a safe haven for Bin Laden, his supporters and all other terrorist organizations. Which he will most likely do. He then helps set up training camps and starts supply equipment for dirty bombs and other nuclear type weeapons to these terrorists. These groups set their plans in motion causing far more destruction than imagined in the past.
Now we have a choice, we go into Iran and risk a nuclear war or we try to hunt down the terrorists outside of Iran and while they are in control of a dirty bomb...not really enticing either.
I am opting for plan A....preemptive strike to prevent them from getting them
Iran reaches nuclear capabilities. Ayatolla sharif delmuhhamad walla walla walla bing bang pronoiunces his country as a safe haven for Bin Laden, his supporters and all other terrorist organizations. Which he will most likely do. He then helps set up training camps and starts supply equipment for dirty bombs and other nuclear type weeapons to these terrorists. These groups set their plans in motion causing far more destruction than imagined in the past.
Now we have a choice, we go into Iran and risk a nuclear war or we try to hunt down the terrorists outside of Iran and while they are in control of a dirty bomb...not really enticing either.
I am opting for plan A....preemptive strike to prevent them from getting them
darthtang aw
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Originally Posted by krj-1168
We So - Need to Get George & ---- out of Office - ASAP. Watching our President & Vice President - is Like Watching DUMB & DUMBER - for the 100th time - after a while it's just not funny any more - but just insanely stupid.
And that folks contributes the discussion in no way at all... Thanks for playing....The bash Bush and company thread was a few weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.
We So - Need to Get George & ---- out of Office - ASAP. Watching our President & Vice President - is Like Watching DUMB & DUMBER - for the 100th time - after a while it's just not funny any more - but just insanely stupid.
And that folks contributes the discussion in no way at all... Thanks for playing....The bash Bush and company thread was a few weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.
mike22cha
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
There is no serious worry of a nuke in our backyard from a missle launched from Iran. However this scenario I am about to describe does frighten me more so than any other scenario involving mad leaders I have thought of. This is almost (not really) close to as bad a Germany's holocaust. Here it goes.
Iran reaches nuclear capabilities. Ayatolla sharif delmuhhamad walla walla walla bing bang pronoiunces his country as a safe haven for Bin Laden, his supporters and all other terrorist organizations. Which he will most likely do. He then helps set up training camps and starts supply equipment for dirty bombs and other nuclear type weeapons to these terrorists. These groups set their plans in motion causing far more destruction than imagined in the past.
Now we have a choice, we go into Iran and risk a nuclear war or we try to hunt down the terrorists outside of Iran and while they are in control of a dirty bomb...not really enticing either.
I am opting for plan A....preemptive strike to prevent them from getting them
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
There is no serious worry of a nuke in our backyard from a missle launched from Iran. However this scenario I am about to describe does frighten me more so than any other scenario involving mad leaders I have thought of. This is almost (not really) close to as bad a Germany's holocaust. Here it goes.
Iran reaches nuclear capabilities. Ayatolla sharif delmuhhamad walla walla walla bing bang pronoiunces his country as a safe haven for Bin Laden, his supporters and all other terrorist organizations. Which he will most likely do. He then helps set up training camps and starts supply equipment for dirty bombs and other nuclear type weeapons to these terrorists. These groups set their plans in motion causing far more destruction than imagined in the past.
Now we have a choice, we go into Iran and risk a nuclear war or we try to hunt down the terrorists outside of Iran and while they are in control of a dirty bomb...not really enticing either.
I am opting for plan A....preemptive strike to prevent them from getting them
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
mike22cha
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
And that folks contributes the discussion in no way at all... Thanks for playing....The bash Bush and company thread was a few weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.
Join the club. You guys on swf.com are the only people who I see support Bush. Way to be a Bill O'Riely "Cultural Warrior" LOL.
And that folks contributes the discussion in no way at all... Thanks for playing....The bash Bush and company thread was a few weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.
Join the club. You guys on swf.com are the only people who I see support Bush. Way to be a Bill O'Riely "Cultural Warrior" LOL.
seasalt101
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Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
and how rich is an oil sheik? take that into consideration, now how many of those you think hate us or support terrorism? add that and the black market walah nuclear weapon with no country to blame. just a nationality like 9/11 think about it...tobin
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
and how rich is an oil sheik? take that into consideration, now how many of those you think hate us or support terrorism? add that and the black market walah nuclear weapon with no country to blame. just a nationality like 9/11 think about it...tobin
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
Ok, then we do nothing and lket them get the nuclear weapons. While we are at it, we were wrong and should have given Saddam his country back as well.
We never should have gone into Kosovo as they never attacked us.
Come to think of it...Germany never actually attacked us either so we should give Europe back to the germans.....
I mean if we should only defend ourselves and not be concerned about what other countries do, the place we should have fought in the last century was Japan.
So let Iran get nuclear, that is what you are saying correct?
What if, what if, what if. No offense, your sceanarios are totaly a Baptist end of the world, eternal lake of fire, crap that they use to scare people with.
IRAN IS NOT THAT STUPID. IF IT WERE AN INDIVIDUAL MUSLIM GROUP, I'D BE WORRIED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NATION. ALL NATIONS HAVE ONE THING IN MIND, POWER!
Ok, then we do nothing and lket them get the nuclear weapons. While we are at it, we were wrong and should have given Saddam his country back as well.
We never should have gone into Kosovo as they never attacked us.
Come to think of it...Germany never actually attacked us either so we should give Europe back to the germans.....
I mean if we should only defend ourselves and not be concerned about what other countries do, the place we should have fought in the last century was Japan.
So let Iran get nuclear, that is what you are saying correct?
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
Join the club. You guys on swf.com are the only people who I see support Bush. Way to be a Bill O'Riely "Cultural Warrior" LOL.
Who ever said I supported "Bush"....The last election I was given a choice between the Monkey and Frankenstien....neither was appealing.
I agree with some of the things we did, I just disagree with how Bush did it...and don't get me started on all his social programs he supports and funds...Everyone complains about the cost of the war, but how much money has he sent to Africa in the last 7 years for Aids education?
The guy has funded and given money to more social programs than any othe rpresident, yet the democrats never give him that credit....why would they, they are suppossed to fund those programs more than a Republican and that would hurt them politically
Join the club. You guys on swf.com are the only people who I see support Bush. Way to be a Bill O'Riely "Cultural Warrior" LOL.
Who ever said I supported "Bush"....The last election I was given a choice between the Monkey and Frankenstien....neither was appealing.
I agree with some of the things we did, I just disagree with how Bush did it...and don't get me started on all his social programs he supports and funds...Everyone complains about the cost of the war, but how much money has he sent to Africa in the last 7 years for Aids education?
The guy has funded and given money to more social programs than any othe rpresident, yet the democrats never give him that credit....why would they, they are suppossed to fund those programs more than a Republican and that would hurt them politically
mike22cha
Active Member
So let Iran get nuclear, that is what you are saying correct?
Ok I'm not going to respond to the things you listed before, becuase those statements are pointless.
Why in the crap would they go nuc? Read all my posts and tell me what I'm trying to tell you. THEY WILL NOT LAUNCH A NUC! Terrorists maybe. We should worry about them. Not a country that "attacked or plans on attacking" us becuase no country is stupid enough to challenge the Western Nations and all their allies.
Ok I'm not going to respond to the things you listed before, becuase those statements are pointless.
Why in the crap would they go nuc? Read all my posts and tell me what I'm trying to tell you. THEY WILL NOT LAUNCH A NUC! Terrorists maybe. We should worry about them. Not a country that "attacked or plans on attacking" us becuase no country is stupid enough to challenge the Western Nations and all their allies.
mike22cha
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
Who ever said I supported "Bush"....The last election I was given a choice between the Monkey and Frankenstien....neither was appealing.
I agree with some of the things we did, I just disagree with how Bush did it...and don't get me started on all his social programs he supports and funds...Everyone complains about the cost of the war, but how much money has he sent to Africa in the last 7 years for Aids education?
The guy has funded and given money to more social programs than any othe rpresident, yet the democrats never give him that credit....why would they, they are suppossed to fund those programs more than a Republican and that would hurt them politically
I'm interested in seeing proof of that. No seriously I am.
Who ever said I supported "Bush"....The last election I was given a choice between the Monkey and Frankenstien....neither was appealing.
I agree with some of the things we did, I just disagree with how Bush did it...and don't get me started on all his social programs he supports and funds...Everyone complains about the cost of the war, but how much money has he sent to Africa in the last 7 years for Aids education?
The guy has funded and given money to more social programs than any othe rpresident, yet the democrats never give him that credit....why would they, they are suppossed to fund those programs more than a Republican and that would hurt them politically
I'm interested in seeing proof of that. No seriously I am.
krj-1168
Member
I'm not bashing Bush - The Fact is he's an Idiot - Both our current President & Vice President(combined) have less common sense than a Chimp has.
Yes - I believe there's a way to handle Iran. But it not just to go blindly charging into to Iran - start Another War.
And I highly doubt Iran would be stupid enough to attack us - with a Nuclear based Weapon. Why - it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has the most nukes - That would be US. If they Fire a Nuke at Us or any of our Allies - then We have the capability to wipe them off the face of the Planet. Pure & simple.
So Iran - no major worry. As for supporting Terrorism - if they do that then - we will no longer do business with them - and they are on our radar as a terrorist state. If they build a nuclear weapons - then we can do quick clean strike to destroy their capability to make nukes can be done without another full scale Gulf War.
Yes - I believe there's a way to handle Iran. But it not just to go blindly charging into to Iran - start Another War.
And I highly doubt Iran would be stupid enough to attack us - with a Nuclear based Weapon. Why - it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has the most nukes - That would be US. If they Fire a Nuke at Us or any of our Allies - then We have the capability to wipe them off the face of the Planet. Pure & simple.
So Iran - no major worry. As for supporting Terrorism - if they do that then - we will no longer do business with them - and they are on our radar as a terrorist state. If they build a nuclear weapons - then we can do quick clean strike to destroy their capability to make nukes can be done without another full scale Gulf War.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
I'm interested in seeing proof of that. No seriously I am.
Spending on Medicare/medicaid style programs was $1.3 trillion in 2005, up an inflation-adjusted 22% since 2000 and accounting for more than half of federal spending.
That is a 22% increase over Clinton.
Money sent to Africa for aids over 5 years is 30 billion...doubling any past spendature of funds for this program in our nations history.
Don't have much time now, will have to go through my stuff to find everything when I have more time. But this is a start.
I'm interested in seeing proof of that. No seriously I am.
Spending on Medicare/medicaid style programs was $1.3 trillion in 2005, up an inflation-adjusted 22% since 2000 and accounting for more than half of federal spending.
That is a 22% increase over Clinton.
Money sent to Africa for aids over 5 years is 30 billion...doubling any past spendature of funds for this program in our nations history.
Don't have much time now, will have to go through my stuff to find everything when I have more time. But this is a start.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by krj-1168
I'm not bashing Bush - The Fact is he's an Idiot - Both our current President & Vice President(combined) have less common sense than a Chimp has.
Yes - I believe there's a way to handle Iran. But it not just to go blindly charging into to Iran - start Another War.
And I highly doubt Iran would be stupid enough to attack us - with a Nuclear based Weapon. Why - it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has the most nukes - That would be US. If they Fire a Nuke at Us or any of our Allies - then We have the capability to wipe them off the face of the Planet. Pure & simple.
So Iran - no major worry. As for supporting Terrorism - if they do that then - we will no longer do business with them - and they are on our radar as a terrorist state. If they build a nuclear weapons - then we can do quick clean strike to destroy their capability to make nukes can be done without another full scale Gulf War.
So what you are saying is you would allow them to get the nukes and risk a potential nuclear war if they ever used them? That is like letting Gang Members/felons legally purchase guns from a store....
I'm not bashing Bush - The Fact is he's an Idiot - Both our current President & Vice President(combined) have less common sense than a Chimp has.
Yes - I believe there's a way to handle Iran. But it not just to go blindly charging into to Iran - start Another War.
And I highly doubt Iran would be stupid enough to attack us - with a Nuclear based Weapon. Why - it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has the most nukes - That would be US. If they Fire a Nuke at Us or any of our Allies - then We have the capability to wipe them off the face of the Planet. Pure & simple.
So Iran - no major worry. As for supporting Terrorism - if they do that then - we will no longer do business with them - and they are on our radar as a terrorist state. If they build a nuclear weapons - then we can do quick clean strike to destroy their capability to make nukes can be done without another full scale Gulf War.
So what you are saying is you would allow them to get the nukes and risk a potential nuclear war if they ever used them? That is like letting Gang Members/felons legally purchase guns from a store....
seasalt101
Active Member
i think that any country denies another countries right to exist needs to be checked so it doesn't turn into ww3 sounds alot like hitler to me so i think we need to do anything, at all cost to stop this lunatic (iranian president, i can't spell his name)
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
I love it when a faceless troll behind a computer screen calls bush or any other politician that has reached national prominence an "idiot".
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
I love it when a faceless troll behind a computer screen calls bush or any other politician that has reached national prominence an "idiot".
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
seasalt101
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
most people who would call the president whoever he/she may be needs to look at their own IQ before just spouting off not agreeing with their policy does not make them an idiot jimmy carter was not a good president but i can guarantee he is not stupid, so why don't you people that thinks he's an idiot post your honest IQ he might not always talk well but he does make sense and does believe to his core what he is doing is right and that makes him a good person, man and leader...tobin
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
most people who would call the president whoever he/she may be needs to look at their own IQ before just spouting off not agreeing with their policy does not make them an idiot jimmy carter was not a good president but i can guarantee he is not stupid, so why don't you people that thinks he's an idiot post your honest IQ he might not always talk well but he does make sense and does believe to his core what he is doing is right and that makes him a good person, man and leader...tobin
mike22cha
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
All I got to quote is from Lil' Bush:
"Now George, don't kill your brother. You may need him to rig an election for you someday."
Wonder where they got that?
To anyone that says Bush bashers are dumb, stupid, or have no idea what their talking about, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT BUSH'S POLL RATINGS RECENTLY? Seems to me that most of America are idiots then.
You know, I always wondered something. If the current president is an idiot, then what does that make the guy that lost to him in the election and those that voted for him?
All I got to quote is from Lil' Bush:
"Now George, don't kill your brother. You may need him to rig an election for you someday."
To anyone that says Bush bashers are dumb, stupid, or have no idea what their talking about, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT BUSH'S POLL RATINGS RECENTLY? Seems to me that most of America are idiots then.