Its all your fault (you clam happy, 6pack people!) :D

[beattyr]

I was just going to avoid clams all together, but NOOOO you guys had to go and post all those really nice pictures of the clams and now SWF is selling them here!!!! grrrrrr....
Ok,
Once I correct my water condition issues and everything is running fine, what are some does and dont's for clams?
I currently have in the tank (37 gal) a scooter blenny, some blue chromis and a true perc. My pygmy angel died in my PH spiking fiasco about a week ago so I'll be looking to add an angel once things are safe. I also want to get a tang at some point. For inverts, I have the zebra hermits and some blue legs, along with a mexican turbo, the usual turbos and a couple of the sand burrowing snails. Any of these critters known to snack on clams?
Anything that I should never put in a reef tank that has clams?
Thanks... i think
Rob

 

[mistylab]

Originally posted by beattyr
I also want to get a tang.
Rob
NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO, that tank is wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too small for any tang.
Please do not do something that cruel to any fish, thats like putting an Irish Wolfhound in a 5' x 5' pen for its whole life and never ever letting it out.

 

[beattyr]

Even some of the smaller tangs like a yellow?
I certainly wasnt going out and buying a 6" tang to put in there, I was contemplating a small one around an inch or so as our local LFS has them quite often.
Currently have 250W MH and will be replacing my 110w PC in a week or so as the ballasts died .
Rob

 

[bonermeister]

Those one-inch yellow tangs at your LFS will be six inches in no time flat. Don't get one unless you get a bigger tank first.

 

[jlem]

After being on the board for a year you ask about a Tang in your 37 gallon tank, and you say even a smaller yellow tang. You either are pulling peoples legs or have the shortest memory available. Now if you actually don't realize that a yellow tang does not stay small and probably will not do very good in a tank that small then I apologize for being rude and hopefully you will heed the advice of the people in this thread and skip on the yellow tang or the manderin that you probably want next week.

 

[jauringer]

beattyr, if I could answer your question i would. I appologize that everyone just freaked out on you and did not even answer your question. I have seen this a thousand times on this board. i don't even mention the word tang anymore with a 46 bowfront on my sig.

 

[chef jaysen]

Bad boy bad boys.............
TANG POLICE........WOOP WOOP

 

[jlem]

His questions where awnsered. He/ She was advised not to get an angel, a tang, and was told lights and supplimental feedings are big things. My point was after six months on the board and almost 100 post I find it hard to believe that Beattyr would ask about a tang when every other post on this board mentions not to put tangs in a small tank. Now like i said if you are not just stirring up sand then take the advise and skip the tang.

 

[beattyr]

Originally posted by jlem
His questions where awnsered. He/ She was advised not to get an angel, a tang, and was told lights and supplimental feedings are big things. My point was after six months on the board and almost 100 post I find it hard to believe that Beattyr would ask about a tang when every other post on this board mentions not to put tangs in a small tank. Now like i said if you are not just stirring up sand then take the advise and skip the tang.
I'd certainly be more apt to take the advice when its given nicely instead tossed out there by a loud mouthed jerk....
I guess those of us who have to ask questions EVEN if they have been asked before don't rate high enough to deserve respect?
I have been on this board a year, SPORADICALLY posting and reading things. As far as the tang goes, I had not even considered buying it yet and BEFORE I would have, I would have asked if it would be compatible with what I have in the tank AND if the "dont put tangs in small tanks" was merely for the larger ones such as the naso or if it was all of them.
Furthermore, in that year that I have read posts on here, this was prolly the worst personal attack I have seen.
How about you stay on your side of the board and I'll stay on mine and don't worry about all the tangs I do or dont put in my tank.
Rob

 

[spsfreak100]

Originally posted by beattyr
Currently have 250W MH and will be replacing my 110w PC in a week or so as the ballasts died .
I'm slightly confused. You currently have the 250wt halide and you will be replacing the halide bcause the ballast died? Tell me if I'm wrong. If the ballast on the halide died, you could easily buy another ballast, and possibly buy a nice T. Squamosa to start out with.
Originally posted by beattyr
I was just going to avoid clams all together, but NOOOO you guys had to go and post all those really nice pictures of the clams and now SWF is selling them here!!!! grrrrrr....

First,
Tridacna clams are found on the upper part of the reef, receiving ample amounts of sunlight. Tridacna clams will do so much better when placed under Halides compared to flourecent lighting. Why put a Tridacna clam in anything but the best? Can you answer me that?
Second,
Whatever you do, do get sucked in to buying a clam just because people on this board have nice clams. The majority of the people on this board have their clams under Metal halides, and their clam is thriving. There are also a few people here who keep their clam(s) under flourecent light and the clam is surviving, but just surviving. They may claim that their clam is thriving under their 2x 65wt Power Compacts (random lighting), even though they've only had the clam a month or two. My point is, is that you should wait until you have the proper equipment before you buy any Clam (or anything for that matter).
I can (unfortunatly) speak with experience when I say that. When I first started, I got sucked in to buying a whole lotta stuff for my tank, becuase people all around me had all these beautiful corals and fish. Save your money, save the life of a clam, and wait until you have the proper equipment before you buy the clam.
What's wrong with waiting a little bit before you buy a clam? If you waited, you would have something excellent to look forward too
Take Care,
Graham

 

[sheree]

Everyone who has ever snapped someones head off for a question or comment made here think about this.......Whom do you think new people to this hobby will take advise from..the person who made them feel like an idiot...or the guy at the LFS that smiles at him and lies through his teeth and NICELY says what he wants to hear just to make a sale??????
The insults and sarcasim arent REALLY needed are they?
And so what if he wants a Mandarin next week?
Ahhh the experts!!
Save the life of a clam....but blast that Aiptasia with Kalk or boiling hot water........geeeesssshhh

 

[beattyr]

Originally posted by SPSfreak100
I'm slightly confused. You currently have the 250wt halide and you will be replacing the halide bcause the ballast died? Tell me if I'm wrong. If the ballast on the halide died, you could easily buy another ballast, and possibly buy a nice T. Squamosa to start out with.
I think your misunderstanding me or I didn't explain it clearly. I have 250wMH and a 110pc. The electronic ballasts for the 110wpc died. I just bought a replacement ballast and it will be in next week putting my PC's back online. The MH has been working fine all along.
What's wrong with waiting a little bit before you buy a clam? If you waited, you would have something excellent to look forward too
Take Care,
Graham

I was only teasing the posters of the clam threads because till now I had not been very interested in clams, but after seeing the pics, its something I am seriously considering when things in the tank are settled down.
Rob

 

[9fishers]

You're not alone, Ken. I came to this site for help from the "experts",too. They made me feel like I shouldn't even be in this hobby. Were they never new to this? Didnt they ask questions? There are no stupid questions....only stupid answers.

 

[wrassecal]

If I read your post correctly your PC's are what you are replacing. Sorry about your problems with your tank and lights. I'm like you in seeing all these clams lately sure make me want one. I don't have the lighting, but since you have MH and are replacing the PC's too I think you would be able to have what you like in the clam area. Once your tank is ready I'd just get back on here and ask what the best ones would be for your tank. Avoiding clam picking type fish would be good too, so I think it's a good thing you listed the fish you were thinking about getting. It's always a good thing to ask first before buying...try to ignore the flames. I've been here a year and a half and I don't what the deal is lately but people on here have been extra harsh. I've made a couple mistakes lately I'd like some help with and I'd like to serve as information for others but won't post it here because of some of harsh replies lately. I'm asking my questions from people I trust through email. There are some VERY knowledgable people on here though that can help you get your tank prepared to keep clams.

 

[beattyr]

Thanks for the kind words Wrasse,
I wont let a couple of meatheads keep me from learning more and keeping from making those costly mistakes in the 1st place.
Rob

 

[jlem]

9fishers. When have you ever asked for advice in your last 7 post where you were treated harshly. I read every thread that you have replied to or started and you were catered to with great advice in every one.
Beattyr. You probably just mentioned the tang just to mention and that's fine. First you say that you are intersted in a yellow tang and then you say that you had not even considered a tang, so which one? The reason that I jumped on your post is because the first person who says to go ahead and throw a tang into a small tank gives every new hobbiest a reason to buy that beutiful yellow tang and put it into a small tank, and I just don't believe that after a year on the boards you have not realized that that is a bad idea. So if it is a bad idea why even mention it. If you don't want people to worry about your tank then don't ask what people think. Sometimes I do get passionate about this hobby so I do apologize for my first reponse. I am in the military so rude behavior and even worse humur is a daily occurance between my co workers and I, so please excuse my rude response.

 

[beattyr]

Originally posted by jlem
Sometimes I do get passionate about this hobby so I do apologize for my first reponse. I am in the military so rude behavior and even worse humur is a daily occurance between my co workers and I, so please excuse my rude response.
As a former vet, I find this a poor excuse for your rudeness. There is one cardinal rule of email and posting that many people violate. Never send an email if your mad. Go back later and write down what you want to say. It comes across much better.
Rob

 

[jlem]

There is a difference between posting when you are madd and posting when you are concerned that someone is giving bogus advice. Or when somebody is asking a question when they know that the awnser is no. I would think as a vet your skin would be tougher than paper. I guess by how much I hurt your feelings I assumed you were younger than you are and deserved an apology and never would have assumed you were a vet. You can have the last word on this one. I will be more careful how I reply so I don't hurt your feelings anymore. Once again I am sorry for my offensive remarks.

 

[spsfreak100]

beattyr,
I don't think you ever meantioned how old your tank is. How old is it? I personally wouldn't put a clam in anything younger than a 7 month old tank.
If your tank is older than 7 months, I don't see why you couldn't try a clam once you correct the water conditions (as you meantioned you had a pH spike). Once everything is correct, I would first try a 3 or 4" T. Squamosa. They do best placed in the sandbed, receiving slow to medium currents. You shouldn't really bother with feeding it, the clam should get the majority of the nutrients through photosynthesis.
If your squamosa clam shows signs of good growth, and has been thriving in your tank for at least 4 or 5 months, then you could possibly try a T. Maxima, or Possibly a T. Crocea.
Graham

 

[wrassecal]

This is exactly what I mean....I re-read your threads and blah, blah, blah, bash, bash bash......You know when Broomer5 re-read my threads a while ago, he didn't come on here with any arguments or tell me where I contradicted myself. He just took what he could figure out and then gave me sound advise on what he thought my next steps should be. You guys don't help anyone when you spend your time re-reading threads so you can come on a new thread and defend your stance. Either offer help or don't reply and please remember, it's not just the thread starter that benefits from information in a thread. Many other people read them too......BTW listen to SPSfreak 100 aka Graham. He knows what he's talking about. In his first reply I think he thought your mh needed to be replaced, not your pc.