Joe the Plumber

oscardeuce

Active Member
Anyone else see this exchange?
I loved it when Obama said how the gov't should tax this plumber to "share the wealth". If from Toledo, then Joe is most likely a democrat. I don't hink Joe's voting for Obama.
You can't buy this press, but then again the mainstream "free press" won't run it much either.
God bless every "Joe" out there trying to work hard and get ahead.
 

rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2798442
Anyone else see this exchange?
I loved it when Obama said how the gov't should tax this plumber to "share the wealth". If from Toledo, then Joe is most likely a democrat. I don't hink Joe's voting for Obama.
You can't buy this press, but then again the mainstream "free press" won't run it much either.
God bless every "Joe" out there trying to work hard and get ahead.
He's McCain's best friend right now and an overnight celebrity now.
 

ray j neal

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Funny thing is the press is saying his actual name is Sam. His middle name happens to indeed be Joe, but they (supposedly, the media says) did not know this. Personally, being a 21 year old who is a first time home owner, I was quite disappointed in this last presidential debate. I could give a flying **** about who said what at whos rallies. What I do care about is the current state of this economy, and how each candidate intends to make this bail out package work for the average American. Also, once again, Joe is in a higher tax bracket, when the majority of us are not. These are simply my views and opinions, I don't expect people to accept everything I believe it. This is America, a great country in which we are entitled to our own views. At the end of the day, I know without a doubt who I am voting for!
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-Ray
 

reefraff

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The thing the people in the middle class need to consider is does it make sense for the government to take away money from your employer and give it to people who don't pay taxes now.
 

ironeagle2006

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Look at things this way here were I live there is a small trucking company with 7 trucks . They employ 9 drivers 2 trucks have teams in them have 2 mechanics on full time and 2 dispatchers to keep the trucks running and 2 others in the office to keep the books and logsbooks and do the payrooll. I asked the owner I am good friends with him what his tax bill was for last year. He told me it was 360 thousand dollars for all the kinds of taxes he pays fuel road Highway usage income Social Sercurity and such. I then asked him what he would pay under Barack Obama he told me it would go UP to get this 650 thousand dollars a year. He last year made a profit of 30 grand HOW IN THE HELL IS HE SUPPOSED T PAY THAT EXTRA 260 thousand bucks under Obama. He more than likely will have to close his doors and put 15 hard working people OUT OF WORK. He got his figures from his CPA who used the figures form the Obama website.
 

bionicarm

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This is one of Obama's philosophies I don't agree with. I think he needs to reevaluate this $250,000 highmark he keeps bringing up. I don't think anyone should get penalized for being successful in any business endeavor they get into.
 

stdreb27

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It isn't the dollar amount, it is that we have a major candidate who says it is better for everyone if we spread the wealth around. If mccain can turn this into an election of spreading the wealth around vs capitalism. McCain is going to win...
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2799037
This is one of Obama's philosophies I don't agree with. I think he needs to reevaluate this $250,000 highmark he keeps bringing up. I don't think anyone should get penalized for being successful in any business endeavor they get into.
I agree with that. And I think he will be forced to do that once he is elected. I don't think that this bill will have a chance of passing honestly.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2799456
btw, "joe the plumber" owes 1200 in back taxes...
I'm curious, what does that have to do with "spreading the wealth around."
What you have is the "I'm a socialist spoking gun." Who cares who he said it to?
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2799456
btw, "joe the plumber" owes 1200 in back taxes...
Try doing a search on Penny Pritzker superior bank and see how much Obama's finance chair cost the united states and the FDIC in her subprime related bank failure.
Of course the media wing of the Democrap party doesn't have time to report on the millions that cost taxpayers but they can dig into a plumber's background to find a 1200 dollar past due tax bill
 

stdreb27

Active Member
It wouldn't matter if obama was talking to a monkey, the key is you now have the leading presidential candidate advocating socialism.
 

sickboy

Active Member
Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
http:///forum/post/2799011
Look at things this way here were I live there is a small trucking company with 7 trucks . They employ 9 drivers 2 trucks have teams in them have 2 mechanics on full time and 2 dispatchers to keep the trucks running and 2 others in the office to keep the books and logsbooks and do the payrooll. I asked the owner I am good friends with him what his tax bill was for last year. He told me it was 360 thousand dollars for all the kinds of taxes he pays fuel road Highway usage income Social Sercurity and such. I then asked him what he would pay under Barack Obama he told me it would go UP to get this 650 thousand dollars a year. He last year made a profit of 30 grand HOW IN THE HELL IS HE SUPPOSED T PAY THAT EXTRA 260 thousand bucks under Obama. He more than likely will have to close his doors and put 15 hard working people OUT OF WORK. He got his figures from his CPA who used the figures form the Obama website.
Well, lets do some math.
$30,000 profit @ 35% corporate tax rate= $10,500 in taxes. Not quite the $360,000 stated above. If it is not incorporated, and your friend pays himself 220,000, then :
$250,000 @ 35% = $87,500, then under obama 250K @ 38%= $95,000.
Leads me to believe one of the numbers he gave you is incorrect, granted SS etc. is not included in this, but the pure numbers show that something is fishy.
So:
Assume 35% corporate rate:
$360,000/.35= $1,028,571 profit before taxes. If his company makes this much and he is incorporated, his taxes don't change under Obama.
Everyone keeps saying that Obama will kill business, but he hasn't talked about raising business tax now has he. He has talked about personal income tax for 5-6% of the population, and anyone who makes a significant business profit are incorporated, therefore business is the same. There can be an argument made about start-ups, but I find it to be null as those in the highest tax bracket have easy access to credit in our normal economy.
 

sickboy

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2802608
It wouldn't matter if obama was talking to a monkey, the key is you now have the leading presidential candidate advocating socialism.
Were we a socialist country in the 90's? How about in the 40-50s?
 
JOE the plumber is a republican who was just trying to give Obama a hard time. He wanted to stump Obama with his questions just like that guy did Palin at that restaurant. Got to love Joe for trying to help out his party.
By the way McCain brought up his name first and Joe cannot plumb without a license in Ohio.
 
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