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mrdc
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Hey lion,
I have a Blue Regal in a hospital tank under hypo. A few of my other fish are showing signs of ich for over a week now but act fine. One of the fishes that has it is a Royal Gramma and he looked bad. I was sure that he was a goner. The next day I noticed the cleaner shrimp all over him. Since then he acts normal but I can still see spots. I tried to catch him for 5 straight days with no success. I soak all foods with garlic and vita-chem (before and after ich...may be what's helping the ich from killing all the fish).
Now to the point. Is Stop Parasite safe for corals and inverts? I wasn't sure what you had in your tank when you used this product.
Thanks.
I have a Blue Regal in a hospital tank under hypo. A few of my other fish are showing signs of ich for over a week now but act fine. One of the fishes that has it is a Royal Gramma and he looked bad. I was sure that he was a goner. The next day I noticed the cleaner shrimp all over him. Since then he acts normal but I can still see spots. I tried to catch him for 5 straight days with no success. I soak all foods with garlic and vita-chem (before and after ich...may be what's helping the ich from killing all the fish).
Now to the point. Is Stop Parasite safe for corals and inverts? I wasn't sure what you had in your tank when you used this product.
Thanks.
mrdc
Active Member
Originally Posted by Bailey52
AW2 What SG do you keep your tanks at? 1.019 all the time? If so is that a little low, but works for you?
Also... for ICH if you have a QT tank and hypo a sick fish... and kill the ich, wont it still be present in the main tank?
I think it's in the main tank as long as their is a host...aka fish. I think the tank has to be fish free for 4 weeks to let the parasites cycle out.
AW2 What SG do you keep your tanks at? 1.019 all the time? If so is that a little low, but works for you?
Also... for ICH if you have a QT tank and hypo a sick fish... and kill the ich, wont it still be present in the main tank?
I think it's in the main tank as long as their is a host...aka fish. I think the tank has to be fish free for 4 weeks to let the parasites cycle out.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
Now to the point. Is Stop Parasite safe for corals and inverts? I wasn't sure what you had in your tank when you used this product.
Thanks.
Yes, it did not affect my macro algae, snails, hermits, starfish, and corals.
I like to use Stop Parasite when I cannot catch the fish out of the tank. Trying to catch him only further stresses out the fish. The one and only time I ever had ich was with my engineer goby. He had a little bit on his face and there was no way I was ripping about the tank and his cave to strssfully catch him. THus, I used Stop Parasite for 3 days, enough to get his immune system up, his metabolism going, and the ich off his body. At that point, I dosed all of his food with garlic and he was then strong enough to fight it off on his own. It has never come back since then, but I don't want to take any credit away from my neon gobies though. They have been in my tank for 6 months now and are excellent parasitic cleaners. Never have I seen a spot on any of my fish, but the fish seem to enjoy being cleaned at times.
Now to the point. Is Stop Parasite safe for corals and inverts? I wasn't sure what you had in your tank when you used this product.
Thanks.
Yes, it did not affect my macro algae, snails, hermits, starfish, and corals.
I like to use Stop Parasite when I cannot catch the fish out of the tank. Trying to catch him only further stresses out the fish. The one and only time I ever had ich was with my engineer goby. He had a little bit on his face and there was no way I was ripping about the tank and his cave to strssfully catch him. THus, I used Stop Parasite for 3 days, enough to get his immune system up, his metabolism going, and the ich off his body. At that point, I dosed all of his food with garlic and he was then strong enough to fight it off on his own. It has never come back since then, but I don't want to take any credit away from my neon gobies though. They have been in my tank for 6 months now and are excellent parasitic cleaners. Never have I seen a spot on any of my fish, but the fish seem to enjoy being cleaned at times.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Ich will usually always be present unless you QT all your fish, or else after hypo in a QT tank, let the main tank run fallow for 4, preferably 6 weeks.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by Bailey52
AW2 What SG do you keep your tanks at? 1.019 all the time? If so is that a little low, but works for you?
Also... for ICH if you have a QT tank and hypo a sick fish... and kill the ich, wont it still be present in the main tank?
The ich will be present in your main tank unless you let it run fishless for 4, preferably 6 weeks.
Also, I am not a big fan of the low SG. I have read so many articles on how it really does not affect the live cycle of ich at all, and it is just usually better to have it closer to what the fish is used to in nature. There is an article on Reef Keepers Magazine which suggests (and I believe scientifically shows) that fish live longer lives when they are kept as close to their natural SG as possible. Thus, I like to keep my tanks at 1.025.
I am not criticizing you AW2, it's just a differing of opinion and practice. If that is what has worked for you and allowed you to keep your beautiful fish healthy, so be it.
AW2 What SG do you keep your tanks at? 1.019 all the time? If so is that a little low, but works for you?
Also... for ICH if you have a QT tank and hypo a sick fish... and kill the ich, wont it still be present in the main tank?
The ich will be present in your main tank unless you let it run fishless for 4, preferably 6 weeks.
Also, I am not a big fan of the low SG. I have read so many articles on how it really does not affect the live cycle of ich at all, and it is just usually better to have it closer to what the fish is used to in nature. There is an article on Reef Keepers Magazine which suggests (and I believe scientifically shows) that fish live longer lives when they are kept as close to their natural SG as possible. Thus, I like to keep my tanks at 1.025.
I am not criticizing you AW2, it's just a differing of opinion and practice. If that is what has worked for you and allowed you to keep your beautiful fish healthy, so be it.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
Lion,
Do you remove your filter media when applying the product?
Yes. I take out the carbon until I stop treatment of the Stop Parasite! I have only used it once on my home aquaria, but have used it at work and on customers' tanks. Never any problems with it.
The only thing you NEED to make sure of is your kH. If your kH is not between 8-12, your pH will take a dive.
Lion,
Do you remove your filter media when applying the product?
Yes. I take out the carbon until I stop treatment of the Stop Parasite! I have only used it once on my home aquaria, but have used it at work and on customers' tanks. Never any problems with it.
The only thing you NEED to make sure of is your kH. If your kH is not between 8-12, your pH will take a dive.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
Oh that may present a problem. Not sure why I can't get my KH up. I use B-Ionic calcium and Kent Superbuff. My PH is 8.23 and Calcium is 420. Phospates are .2. Not sure what else I may be missing.
Oh and the KH is between 5 - 6.
Do you use enough dkH super buffer? What kind of salt are you using?
Oh that may present a problem. Not sure why I can't get my KH up. I use B-Ionic calcium and Kent Superbuff. My PH is 8.23 and Calcium is 420. Phospates are .2. Not sure what else I may be missing.
Oh and the KH is between 5 - 6.
Do you use enough dkH super buffer? What kind of salt are you using?
lion_crazz
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
Bumping for lion.
Wow those are some wacky directions on that website. The actual directions are:
Add 1 measured tsp. (5ml) per 10 gallons of water twice a day for 5 days.
Bumping for lion.
Wow those are some wacky directions on that website. The actual directions are:
Add 1 measured tsp. (5ml) per 10 gallons of water twice a day for 5 days.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Never heard of that. I think it boosts their system enough just being in the water. I am not sure how I feel about them digesting it. I have never done that.
mikeyjer
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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
I agree that I like the garlic method a lot, probably the best if there is no QT tank available. I was not disagreeing with you at all. I just have not had much success with it when the fish needed a quick boost. I have found that Stop Parasite gives them the boost that they need to start eating. I usually only dose it for 2 days, just enough to get the immune system up and the metabolism quickened. Then I use garlic and I have always had good sucess with garlic.
I know you weren't disagreeing with me. I probably would try that stop parasite next time. It sounds like a great idea. I also keep my salinity at 1.025-1.026 I've read about the same like you about keeping low salinity doesn't affect the life cycle of the parasite. But if it works for AW2, so be it. I just kept mine the way it is since I keep inverts and reef. :happyfish
I agree that I like the garlic method a lot, probably the best if there is no QT tank available. I was not disagreeing with you at all. I just have not had much success with it when the fish needed a quick boost. I have found that Stop Parasite gives them the boost that they need to start eating. I usually only dose it for 2 days, just enough to get the immune system up and the metabolism quickened. Then I use garlic and I have always had good sucess with garlic.
I know you weren't disagreeing with me. I probably would try that stop parasite next time. It sounds like a great idea. I also keep my salinity at 1.025-1.026 I've read about the same like you about keeping low salinity doesn't affect the life cycle of the parasite. But if it works for AW2, so be it. I just kept mine the way it is since I keep inverts and reef. :happyfish
lion_crazz
Active Member
I have always seen results in 3 days with usage.
Just, like I said, test the pH frequently every day just to make sure it is not affected and garlic is always good for thier food as well.
Just, like I said, test the pH frequently every day just to make sure it is not affected and garlic is always good for thier food as well.