Let them eat peas

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387561/let-them-eat-peas/20#post_3411482
It wouldn't? How do you figure? Bush had to have the same number of secuity detail, same staff, same transportation if he went to Crawford, Spain, Frankfurt, Maine, or anyone else. How much fuel is spent on AF1 for 50 trips from DC to Texas, and one trip to Spain or Hawaii?
All this does is give the Right more fuel to put on the fire against Obama. The economy was spirally downward in 2007 and 2008, and no one care how many time Bush went to his little ranch in Texas. You just have this mental picture that if you travel overseas, you immediately think it costs more than just traveling within the Cntinental US. I just had a week trip from San Antonio to El Paso, and after airfare, car rental, hotel, and food, I spent over $1,300. I have to go to Dublin for a week later this month, and airfare, hotel, and car rental is costing me $1400. Only difference is I haven't factored the food in yet. But I'm staying in a nice B&B, so my breakfast is already covered.
Bush's crawford trips didn't require the government to rent out an entire floor of a 5 star resort, they stayed in trailers on his ranch. Due to the location it didn't take as many to secure the president and being his private residence the communications systems where already in place so no special arrangements or equipment had to be installed. Air Force 1's costs are figured by flight time. You telling me DC to spain is less flight time than DC to Crawford?
And even still, costs out of the picture, approximately 30 percent of the population is unemployed or under employed and a lot more are scared itless and 0bama sends the family of several elitist vacations. Tone Def

 

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/387561/let-them-eat-peas/40#post_3411494
Bush's crawford trips didn't require the government to rent out an entire floor of a 5 star resort, they stayed in trailers on his ranch. Due to the location it didn't take as many to secure the president and being his private residence the communications systems where already in place so no special arrangements or equipment had to be installed. Air Force 1's costs are figured by flight time. You telling me DC to spain is less flight time than DC to Crawford?
And even still, costs out of the picture, approximately 30 percent of the population is unemployed or under employed and a lot more are scared itless and 0bama sends the family of several elitist vacations. Tone Def
There was twice as much security detail outside his Crawford ranch (and tthere's still a detail assigned to hin today), as there was for Michelle's trip to Spain. They had to protect all access to the ranch, especially when there were all the Iraq protestors hanging outside his ranch.
Did the CEO's and executives of all these major corporations in the US go off on 6-figure vacations during this unemployment phase? Why? Why not cut back on those trips, and hire some of these unemployed workers you discuss? Obama can only recommend and come up with policies that entice businesses to hire people. He was doing that during his "vacation" at Martha's Vineyard. Other than that, he has no control of why or how businesses hire and employ US workers. It's not the role of the Federal Govt. to create jobs. All they can do is provide tax abatements and incentives to spur the economy and business growth. If businesses refuse, or don't want to hire people, the Feds can't force them. You give the Feds and Obama WAY too much credit for the rise in our unemployment numbers. You want to blame someone, blame Congress. Oh wait, they still aen't back from their ONE MONTH vacations to do that.

 

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387561/let-them-eat-peas/40#post_3411498
There was twice as much security detail outside his Crawford ranch (and tthere's still a detail assigned to hin today), as there was for Michelle's trip to Spain. They had to protect all access to the ranch, especially when there were all the Iraq protestors hanging outside his ranch.
Did the CEO's and executives of all these major corporations in the US go off on 6-figure vacations during this unemployment phase? Why? Why not cut back on those trips, and hire some of these unemployed workers you discuss? Obama can only recommend and come up with policies that entice businesses to hire people. He was doing that during his "vacation" at Martha's Vineyard. Other than that, he has no control of why or how businesses hire and employ US workers. It's not the role of the Federal Govt. to create jobs. All they can do is provide tax abatements and incentives to spur the economy and business growth. If businesses refuse, or don't want to hire people, the Feds can't force them. You give the Feds and Obama WAY too much credit for the rise in our unemployment numbers. You want to blame someone, blame Congress. Oh wait, they still aen't back from their ONE MONTH vacations to do that.
Are the CEO's taking vacations doing so at the companies expense? If so are said companies bankrupt? Why on earth would a company hire employees they don't need? The companies "taxpayers" aka investors would toss them out on their ears if they did and rightfully so.
You say it's not the feds role to create jobs. 0bama would disagree with you, he's spent trillions trying to do just that.
His policies have done the opposite of encouraging businesses to hire people. He just doesn't get it. Here's and example of our problem. Here in Colorado there is a need to expand I 70 between Denver and the mountain Ski resorts. About 40 miles. The state has spent "Tens of millions" on environmental impact studies so they can come up with a project design. Why in the hell do we need to spend that kind of money when we are only talking about increasing 4 lanes to 6? How about the "green" refinery project in AZ? They want to build a refinery on the Mexican border in the middle of the desert. They have spent millions over the last 7 or 8 years and have yet to turn a shovel full of dirt just trying to comply with PRE OBAMA epa rules, And now his administration has made them worse.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/387561/let-them-eat-peas/40#post_3411509
Are the CEO's taking vacations doing so at the companies expense? If so are said companies bankrupt? Why on earth would a company hire employees they don't need? The companies "taxpayers" aka investors would toss them out on their ears if they did and rightfully so.
You say it's not the feds role to create jobs. 0bama would disagree with you, he's spent trillions trying to do just that.
His policies have done the opposite of encouraging businesses to hire people. He just doesn't get it. Here's and example of our problem. Here in Colorado there is a need to expand I 70 between Denver and the mountain Ski resorts. About 40 miles. The state has spent "Tens of millions" on environmental impact studies so they can come up with a project design. Why in the hell do we need to spend that kind of money when we are only talking about increasing 4 lanes to 6? How about the "green" refinery project in AZ? They want to build a refinery on the Mexican border in the middle of the desert. They have spent millions over the last 7 or 8 years and have yet to turn a shovel full of dirt just trying to comply with PRE OBAMA epa rules, And now his administration has made them worse.
Blame the local tree hugger organizations for delays in highway projects, not the Feds. Here in San Antonio, the city and state have tried for years to widen one major highway, and also build a Spaghetti Bowl on one of the busiest intersections in the city. But this environmental group, Aquifer Guardians in Urban Areas, claims the planned $130 million interchange threatens endangered species habitats and jeopardizes the Edwards Aquifer and its recharge zone. So they file lawsuits, which delays the construction dates. They were able to delay the 281 expansion long enough to where the state lost its federal funding to expand the highway. Now thier only alternative is to put up toll roads to pay for the expansion. So that's started lawsuits from some local No Toll Road advocacy group, so the expansion is still delayed.

 

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387561/let-them-eat-peas/40#post_3411527
Blame the local tree hugger organizations for delays in highway projects, not the Feds. Here in San Antonio, the city and state have tried for years to widen one major highway, and also build a Spaghetti Bowl on one of the busiest intersections in the city. But this environmental group, Aquifer Guardians in Urban Areas, claims the planned $130 million interchange threatens endangered species habitats and jeopardizes the Edwards Aquifer and its recharge zone. So they file lawsuits, which delays the construction dates. They were able to delay the 281 expansion long enough to where the state lost its federal funding to expand the highway. Now thier only alternative is to put up toll roads to pay for the expansion. So that's started lawsuits from some local No Toll Road advocacy group, so the expansion is still delayed.
The road here is the environmental impact statement which is a federal requirement. The AZ project had a local lawsuit but that was tossed, most of their expenses are complying with federal regs.
Bush had a great idea, clean skies initiative. As it stands now if a company spends x amount on say replacing one of their 3 boilers they are forced to replace all 3. Bush wanted to remove that requirement because what happens is companies keep repairing old inefficient boilers because it keeps them under the replacement threshold. Under the Bush plan they would have been allowed to replace each boiler as needed. That was shot down by the congress.
And the whole thing isn't the regulations. It's the stupid layers of bureaucracy you have to wade through to appease them. 0bama is supposedly going to make some regulatory reforms. I just hope the jackass goes against type and makes some practical reforms. Not only does this crap hurt business it costs the feds a bundle. Here's one:
What do the following numbers represent?
A) 194,000
B) 232,000
c) 954,000
A was border patrol
B was DEA agents
and C was IRS employees. How much money could the government save by going to a flat tax and legalizing Marijuana? LOL!