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btldreef

Moderator
I am an avid Anthias lover. I've kept quite a few different species throughout the years and I'm currently on the hunt for a healthy pair of Borbonius.
IMO, Lyretails are the easiest, especially if you have any fish in your tank that might be aggressive towards them. I absolutely recommend getting all females and allowing the dominant female to change to male on its own. IME, males ship very poorly and have a much slower survival rate, however, a female that is allowed to turn male in your tank will be just fine. It's really neat to watch them change as well. The biggest thing with anthias is getting them to eat in the beginning. DO NOT BUY anthias that are not eating in the store, it's a death sentence. They'll slowly die in your tank. I had a harem of 5 Resplendents that slowly withered away because I took the chance on them even though they were not eating at the store. I got them to eat a little in my tank, but they never fully acclimated. I only have one left and he's stuck in my overflow box and will not come out. I've tried everything to catch him and finally decided that if he's comfortable there, then he can just stay in there.
They need to be fed daily. Mine LOVED Reef Nutrition Arctipods. I very much treated them like mandarins, they like to eat, and have a high metabolism, so they need to eat often. Having a refugium helps, but isn't necessary.
Something that people overlook with anthias is the size of the fish in relationship to the size of the food being offered. Very young anthias can't handle PE Mysis, it's just too large for them. However, PE Mysis is really great for them to be eating, so my solution was to put it through the food processor.
Absolutely add vitamins to their food.
As for schooling bannerfish, a 75 if not enough room.
 
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siptang

Guest
Thanks for that BTLDreef (almost spelled BLT
my silly self)
I have my mind made up and will take around a small bag of mysis and spectrum with me to the LFSs in search for them.
Whenever I get it, I will post pics in the usual section for me.
Sorry OP for hijacking your thread.
 
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siptang

Guest
I recently gave away many of my fish to my friend's widow and her daughter and I'm starting again and this time I'm doing complete opposite from before. I used to go with Lions, triggers, wrasse, groupers and all the other aggressive fish but now, I'm going to go mellow and go for more reef type, peaceful community fish.
I'm getting there slowly but surely and everyone has been very educational and once again, I'm happy to be a part of this wonderful site. :)
I hope you find what you are looking for as well.
Siptang.
 

verojeremy

Member
Yeah well if I had a 180gallon I would get a blonde naso tang, a purple tang, a pair of dragonets, a pair of clownfish, a blue throat trigger and I could go on and on. But with a 75 you are limited.
My LFS has 2 or 3 purple firefish and 2or 3 firefish together already in a tank no fishting. Could I get like 3 purple and 2 regular?
 

btldreef

Moderator
I personally would not mix the two (red and purple). I know some people have luck, but I've always noticed the red's to be more aggressive and they might pick on the purples which tend to be more timid.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Keep in mind that Firefish mature very slowly. Years. Their behaviour and aggressiveness as juveniles it vastly different than what they are as mature adults. I guarantee that if you see more than two Firefish getting along in an LFS tank they are juveniles.
 

verojeremy

Member
OK well they had like .75 to 1 inch firefish so I said no. So instead I got a pixie hawkfish, I have researched them before this and I dont have any shrimp, and you might yell at me for this but they pressured me into a mandarin. the mandarin is a little skinny but was swimming really good in the tank and ate a little bit of the artic pods. He isn't really swimming around at all, he is like sitting on the sand for 5 secons then moves like an inch, is this normal and the hawkfish is doing good and exploring. I will post pick probally Sunday because tommorow i am going up to Orlando, Florida ( I live in Vero Beach, Florida).
 
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siptang

Guest
ahh another floridian. Nice!
Have a safe trip. Mandarin? Probably was a bad choice..
 

verojeremy

Member
Also another thing is I wanted to buy Arctic pods from them and they said OK the 6oz one for $20. They started saying they breed the clown fish and I am like what kind and they said occelaris, so I said are they aggressive. OK so they opened a cabinet and there was the pair of clown fish in a tank by there selves with some decerations and he said stick your hand on the flower pot for 15 seconds and I will give you the Arctic pods for free I said OK and the female drew blood on me twice and bit me 5 times. Wow what an experience.
 

verojeremy

Member
No not really my tank is 5 months old and has a shit load of copeopods and my refugium is a year and a half years old.
 

btldreef

Moderator
The Pixie Hawkfish was a bad idea and I would not be surprised if it kills your mandarin. They are very aggressive, especially with smaller, peaceful fish. A skinny mandarin doesn't stand a chance! The Pixie Hawkfish has even been known to eat smaller fish, not just shrimp.
You have an aggressive little setup forming in your tank between the Mystery Wrasse (they get aggressive as they mature), the Melanarus wrasse, a Yellow Tang (which in a 75, it's almost a guarantee that it will get aggressive), two different types of clownfish and now the hawkfish. Your mandarin really is in danger.
Good luck!
 

verojeremy

Member
None of the fish even look a him. The hawk fish and the mystery wrasse are kept in line with my melaurus and the melanurus was staying near the mandarin like defending him. The mystery wrasse is definitely not a bully maybe when he gets a little bit older but couldn't get that much more aggressive and the yellow tang really he doesn't attack anyone except his reflection in the side of the tank and if he does start to get aggressive I can easily catch him and maybe replace him with a kole tang.
Also I keep the tank well fed I feed at least once a day sometimes twice and I almost always have nori available.
My LFS also has a 180 Gallon tank with 2 spotted mandarins like a pair with an orange shoulder tang an Achilles tang which they are trying to sell, 2 Hawaiian flame wrasses long nose hawk fish and I have watched their tank and no one looks at the pair and they are fat and happy.
I am sorry but I understand your reasoning and I know you know more than me but I have to go with my decision.
 

verojeremy

Member
Oh also in there 180 they have many more fish some aggresive and I have watched it at different times of day to and they dont look at them at all.
And I also forgot my clownfish don't fight anyone except the female and male when they eat but thats common and they stop when done with feeding
 

verojeremy

Member
The dragonet is a little skinny but I see him picking at the rocks so how long do you think it will be to see If I see him getting plumper?
 
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