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kpatrick
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With the power off the siphon didnt stop in the inner tank until it was about 1 1/2" lower then the display tank water. With the power on I lowered the inner tank all the way down until the diplay tank water was pouring over the top of the inner tank.
The teeth openings are 1/4"
The teeth openings are 1/4"
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kpatrick
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I dont know how to post pics here but I can email them to you if you wanna give out email address.
tony detroit
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Make sure there's no restrictions in the pipes.
I set up an overflow back in the day when I started running tanks and used silicon to put the pipes together. When I did that, I didn't know that it caused a huge blob of silicone in the pipes. This decreased my drain flow. It took a couple days before we finally figured out what was wrong.
I set up an overflow back in the day when I started running tanks and used silicon to put the pipes together. When I did that, I didn't know that it caused a huge blob of silicone in the pipes. This decreased my drain flow. It took a couple days before we finally figured out what was wrong.
dreeves
Active Member
The inner box should only adjust the level of water within the aquariam...raising and lowering it simply raises and lowers the tanks level.
If your setup is resembling what squid has posted...that is all fine...
What does the plumbing from the overflow to the sump look like? Often times people will neglect to pay attention to bends/corners in drain line...mere drain pipe size, etc....if the water cannot evacuate the plumbing into the sump at the same or greater rate it is coming in...it will backup.
Check also the inside diamter of the two standpipes in the outer overflow box...sometimes they are assembled with two small of piping.
Ideally, you do not want any restriction in the drain portion of the overflow system.
If your setup is resembling what squid has posted...that is all fine...
What does the plumbing from the overflow to the sump look like? Often times people will neglect to pay attention to bends/corners in drain line...mere drain pipe size, etc....if the water cannot evacuate the plumbing into the sump at the same or greater rate it is coming in...it will backup.
Check also the inside diamter of the two standpipes in the outer overflow box...sometimes they are assembled with two small of piping.
Ideally, you do not want any restriction in the drain portion of the overflow system.
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kpatrick
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okay I am wondering if its the way I did the overflow pipes. I have them running straight down for 2 ft then a 90 degree elbow into a 14" run horizontal to the floor then another 90 degree angle from that down into the sump. Could the 90 degree elbows be the issue? If so I will redeign using (2) 45s instead of the 90s.
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kpatrick
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This may be an easy fix!!!!:joy: :joy: :joy:
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kpatrick
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I will be taking the 90s off tonight and replacing with the 45s. I probably wont try them until tomorrow morning that way the glue has plenty of time to dry. I will let you know if this solves the problem.
I will also lower the internal tanks a little that way the u-tube is 1" from the bottom of the internal tank as well.
I will also lower the internal tanks a little that way the u-tube is 1" from the bottom of the internal tank as well.
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kpatrick
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Well,
I gave the new 45s a try and it does pretty much the same thing. The water level in the main tank goes all the way to the top (maybe 1/4" from over flowing) but it never goes above that. I made sure the U-tube had 1" between it and the bottom of the internal box. The top of the internal box is about 1/4" below the waterline since the tank is almost to the very top.
Cant think of what I could do to lower the waterline a little more. With everything on, my sump is only about 5" deep which I dont think is deep enough for the ASM-G@ skimmer. Is it safe to add more water to the sump or do I need to figure out how to lower the display tank water level first?
Darn Squidd after all your help a couple weeks ago I thought I had it all figured out. :help:
I gave the new 45s a try and it does pretty much the same thing. The water level in the main tank goes all the way to the top (maybe 1/4" from over flowing) but it never goes above that. I made sure the U-tube had 1" between it and the bottom of the internal box. The top of the internal box is about 1/4" below the waterline since the tank is almost to the very top.
Cant think of what I could do to lower the waterline a little more. With everything on, my sump is only about 5" deep which I dont think is deep enough for the ASM-G@ skimmer. Is it safe to add more water to the sump or do I need to figure out how to lower the display tank water level first?
Darn Squidd after all your help a couple weeks ago I thought I had it all figured out. :help:
squidd
Active Member
The top of the internal box is about 1/4" below the waterline since the tank is almost to the very top.
See now we're back to lowering the internal box...:notsure:
Why did you "raise it"...??
Water flows "downhill"...
So...the lip (bottom of slots) of overflow (inner chamber) should be 1 1/2" below top of tank...at this point the "U" tube should be at least an inch from the bottom of the inner chamber...
Then the "Top" of the standpipe in the overflow (outer chamber) should be 2" below the "lip of the inner chamber...
Or 3 1/2" below top of tank...
And the back side of the "U" tube should be an inch or two below that.. 4 1/2" to 5 1/2" below "top" of tank...
If it doesn't work with these setup measurements...you need to either ...
1. Call the MFG and find out "What's up with this POS...??"
2. Figure out how to post some pics of this thing "in opperation" , so we can diagnose from there...
I think we may be loosing something here in the translation and interpretation of "discriptions"...
See now we're back to lowering the internal box...:notsure:
Why did you "raise it"...??
Water flows "downhill"...
So...the lip (bottom of slots) of overflow (inner chamber) should be 1 1/2" below top of tank...at this point the "U" tube should be at least an inch from the bottom of the inner chamber...
Then the "Top" of the standpipe in the overflow (outer chamber) should be 2" below the "lip of the inner chamber...
Or 3 1/2" below top of tank...
And the back side of the "U" tube should be an inch or two below that.. 4 1/2" to 5 1/2" below "top" of tank...
If it doesn't work with these setup measurements...you need to either ...
1. Call the MFG and find out "What's up with this POS...??"
2. Figure out how to post some pics of this thing "in opperation" , so we can diagnose from there...
I think we may be loosing something here in the translation and interpretation of "discriptions"...
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kpatrick
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lowering them and removing the sponges helped lower the water level in the display tank a little. However without the sponges the overflow is extremely loud (still loud with the sponges) but louder without. So much for it being called a "Quiet Flo" !! Wife cant stand the noise.
After all of this im still thinking of selling everything I just bought and buying a hang on back Remora Aqua C Pro and not have to deal with the plumbing and worrying about overflowing.
After all of this im still thinking of selling everything I just bought and buying a hang on back Remora Aqua C Pro and not have to deal with the plumbing and worrying about overflowing.
dmc888
Member
I agree the tube needs atleast 1 inch distance from the bottom.
Try lifting the u tubes an inch and see if it makes a difference in flow.
If so trim the tubes down.
You could also try to add 1 or 2 more u tubes.
Could always sell it back on ---- and buy a better overflow.
Overflows are suppose to be pretty quiet. Unless the prefilters get clogged.
Try lifting the u tubes an inch and see if it makes a difference in flow.
If so trim the tubes down.
You could also try to add 1 or 2 more u tubes.
Could always sell it back on ---- and buy a better overflow.
Overflows are suppose to be pretty quiet. Unless the prefilters get clogged.