Mountain Lion Escapes!!

mindy2577

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GREAT BEND, Kansas – A mountain lion at the Great Bend Zoo is dead after it escaped and was shot by police Sunday night.
The female mountain lion escaped from her cage Sunday night after a zoo worker left the cage door open.
“There was no failure by the exhibits,” said Zoo Director Mike Cargill. “The enclosures were all secured. It was purely staff error.”
When the cat escaped, visitors were immediately evacuated and police were called to the zoo to help. Cargill says at first the mountain lion was calm, lying in some bushes. But it soon became frightened and began to approach other animal cages.
“That cat has had a history of aggressive behavior and an unpredictable behavior and it rang true during the time she was out of the exhibit,” Cargill said.
Great Bend Zoo workers only have access to a low-level tranquilizer, which wouldn’t have been strong enough to subdue the wild cat. And a licensed vet, who was a half hour away at the time, is the only person authorized to use stronger tranquilizers. So, Cargill made the call to have the animal killed before the situation got worse.
“You don't get into this business to terminate animals,” Cargill said. “But in this case, the cat presented a significant danger to people, my staff, and the patrolmen that were there, so we decided to terminate the cat.”
And while many KSN viewers expressed their fears and concerns about what happened, one visitor who spoke to KSN was not so worried.
“It's just how it is," said zoo visitor Pat Cain. "When you deal with animals, something like that can happen."
And thankfully, no people were injured when the lion got loose.
Great Bend Zoo keepers do undergo extensive training and are taught to always shut cage doors. The employee responsible for the escape is being disciplined.
Why didn't they just use the low tranquilizer until the vet could show up? And this animal has been raised by humans since birth. I personally don't think it was a good choice by the zoo director to shoot this animal.
 

mindy2577

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And you would think that they would at least shoot it with the low grade once or twice. just enough to make it a little sleepy. just till the vet arrived.
I think that if they could have thought this through before calling the police department, they wouldn't have lost this animal. I mean, they already escorted everyone out of the zoo, why couldn't they just wait? And wouldn't they have like a course of action plan already made out for when something like this does happen? 30 minutes...that all it would have taken. 30 minutes.
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Mindy2577
http:///forum/post/3052608
And you would think that they would at least shoot it with the low grade once or twice. just enough to make it a little sleepy. just till the vet arrived.
I think that if they could have thought this through before calling the police department, they wouldn't have lost this animal. I mean, they already escorted everyone out of the zoo, why couldn't they just wait? And wouldn't they have like a course of action plan already made out for when something like this does happen? 30 minutes...that all it would have taken. 30 minutes.
They shouldn't have to "think it through" there should already be a plan in place for this....I don't know why it seems there wasn't
 

reefforbrains

Active Member

Originally Posted by Mindy2577
http:///forum/post/3052580
Cargill says at first the mountain lion was calm, lying in some bushes. But it soon became frightened and began to approach other animal cages
.
“That cat has had a history of aggressive behavior and an unpredictable behavior
and it rang true during the time she was out of the exhibit,” Cargill said.
“You don't get into this business to terminate animals,” Cargill said. “But in this case, the cat presented a significant danger to people, my staff, and the patrolmen that were there, so we decided to terminate the cat
.”
Why didn't they just use the low tranquilizer until the vet could show up? And this animal has been raised by humans since birth. I personally don't think it was a good choice by the zoo director to shoot this animal.


How can you say it was a poor choice? No one was hurt. Sure the cat was destroyed but no one was harmed. No one was put in danger while they waited for the person to show up. Get a grip, it is a dangerous animal on the loose. When you cant be 100% sure for people's safety you detroy it, ask questions later.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by ReefForBrains
http:///forum/post/3052802
How can you say it was a poor choice? No one was hurt. Sure the cat was destroyed but no one was harmed. No one was put in danger while they waited for the person to show up. Get a grip, it is a dangerous animal on the loose. When you cant be 100% sure for people's safety you detroy it, ask questions later.
I think the whole point is that a ZOO..should have had a plan, and the ZOO guards should have been equipped with tranquilizer guns...why did they have to even call the cops
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by ReefForBrains
http:///forum/post/3052802
How can you say it was a poor choice? No one was hurt. Sure the cat was destroyed but no one was harmed. No one was put in danger while they waited for the person to show up. Get a grip, it is a dangerous animal on the loose. When you cant be 100% sure for people's safety you detroy it, ask questions later.
Sorry Reef but the zoo was at fault here. The staff left the door open. What wild animal wouldn't venture out? I can't leave my front door open or my cats and dogs would be all over the neighborhood. From the story, I don't think that this animal was any more dangerous than any other zoo animal. If it was such a vicious creature then it would have been removed from the zoo long ago. Being that they keep animals like this, they should most certainly have had equipment to subdue any animal that happens to escape, for whatever reason. They did not have the necessary equipment, yet they had animals that may need it. This is completely the zoo's fault. Now, after the animal was loose they could have just cleared the park and waited for the authorities to arrive. The other animals were all in their enclosures. No one was at real risk with this cat loose in the park. Not from my take on it anyway. Maybe I am missing something here.
 

t316

Active Member
Sad story...I have a weak spot for this type of news, as it has happened in my own (personal) back yard. There are many sides to this debate, but I am grateful that the animal was put down before anything might have happend.
 

reefforbrains

Active Member
No Sep, I completley agree.
I however DO think they handled it correctly. That was my point.
I agree they had a breach in procedure that allowed the animal to wander out of it's cage. As for tools required, sure they had guns. Problen solved.
Unfortunate for the cat since it really was more of just at a bad place during a bad time. The handler could have left the cage next door open instead and the cat would still be alive. Some poor spider monkey would be the victim and people would be just as upset.
I am just commenting that I feel the Zoo DID handle the situation correctly. It is an unfortunate accident. That is all.
 

uneverno

Active Member
Mountain Lions don't live in zoos here.
We get several urban sightings a year. Some close to school yards...
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by ReefForBrains
http:///forum/post/3052830
No Sep, I completley agree.
I however DO think they handled it correctly. That was my point.
I agree they had a breach in procedure that allowed the animal to wander out of it's cage. As for tools required, sure they had guns. Problen solved.
Unfortunate for the cat since it really was more of just at a bad place during a bad time. The handler could have left the cage next door open instead and the cat would still be alive. Some poor spider monkey would be the victim and people would be just as upset.
I am just commenting that I feel the Zoo DID handle the situation correctly. It is an unfortunate accident. That is all.
Reef, the animal did NOT have to be shot... Not at all. If the cat was mauling or even eying up someone, then sure. This cat was loose and probably scared. My house cats are very scared when someone new comes over. I can just imagine a very large "cat" that is now out of his comfort zone. They could have gotten him back to his area and he would have been fine.
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3052856
Tranquilizer guns are what the zoo people should have had
They SHOULD have been well prepared for this being that they keep...um...wild animals! Being that they were not, I sill don't think this cat needed to die. I think they should have backed off and waited for the tranqus. IMHO
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/3052862
They SHOULD have been well prepared for this being that they keep...um...wild animals! Being that they were not, I sill don't think this cat needed to die. I think they should have backed off and waited for the tranqus. IMHO
HMMM...Not sure if you are agreeing with me..or making a point..
Cause that is what I have been saying all along..so I TOTALLY agree with you ...lol..only I said it a few posts up
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3052865
HMMM...Not sure if you are agreeing with me..or making a point..
Cause that is what I have been saying all along..so I TOTALLY agree with you ...lol..only I said it a few posts up

I certainly agree with you but I brought the "should have" into "could have" They SHOULD have had the stuff to subdue a large cat, they COULD have waited until the appropriate team was there that had the right meds. This cat was no threat to other caged animals. It was a scared cat, that if left alone, would have been fine. Again, JMO
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/3052871
I certainly agree with you but I brought the "should have" into "could have" They SHOULD have had the stuff to subdue a large cat, they COULD have waited until the appropriate team was there that had the right meds. This cat was no threat to other caged animals. It was a scared cat, that if left alone, would have been fine. Again, JMO
OH...OK
 
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