Must be election time 'cause we need to drug test welfare people!

Clemsonkid wat about gun collectors tht buy semi auto assault rifles autos are illegal with out. Special permit but semis aren't
 

mantisman51

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Screw republicans. I care about my country, not some party. I split my vote today. But I can assure you that anyone who stands up to the invasion of the welfare snatchers from Mexico and their cartel protecting pals, Obama, Holder and Perez will get my vote. I don't care about the republican party as much as see them as protecting the Constitution more. But they are almost all big business sell outs. But I can live with that if they protect me from foreign invasion and leave my Constitutional rights alone. Something the democrats are generally opposed to.
 
I thought u were mad about wat I was saying all I want is my rights I was given one thing that really ticks me off is Obama saying its ok for Europe to taxes us wen were in bigger debt than they are who Sid u call a liberal?
 
Qi also think if your on well fare ur home should be put on a list for random searches tht way we can hit the people supplying it too
 

mantisman51

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Nope. But that is another reason I vote for few democrats(liberals). They want us to submit our energy, our elections, our gun rights, our money and our military to a bunch of 3rd world scum who, even the democrats know, want to hurt us and bring our country down. 3/4 of the U.N. is our stated enemies. Yet, The Chicago Machine Messiah wants to make us subservient to them in every way. And people still vote for this clown? I am not a republican, I am an American. Something far too many democrats have forgotten as they strive to tear us down to the rest of the worlds stature.
 
I just sick of thoses dealers and users of drugs MJ wat thts a little different (not a user of tht) but my guns I don't think so Barack hessian Obama
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500015
Nope. But that is another reason I vote for few democrats(liberals). They want us to submst the abilityit our energy, our elections, our gun rights, our money and our military to a bunch of 3rd world scum who, even the democrats know, want to hurt us and bring our country down. 3/4 of the U.N. is our stated enemies. Yet, The Chicago Machine Messiah wants to make us subservient to them in every way. And people still vote for this clown? I am not a republican, I am an American. Something far too many democrats have forgotten as they strive to tear us down to the rest of the worlds stature.
You need to quit listening to Hannity and O'Reilly. I don't know where you come up with some of the stuff you rant about. Current energy policies have been in place since Clinton. Obama has given more gun rights than taken away (which is pretty much zero), our economy started going down the tubes before he got into office (of course you want to hold him to his supposed policy stating he'd turn it around in 4 years, while Mitt is admitting it'll take him at least 8-10), and our we've spent more money on our military per capita than we have on our entire citizenship. If idiots like Bush would keep us out of pointless wars, we wouldn't have to spend as much as we do. The Constitution says to protect our BORDERS. That doesn't mean ship 70,000 troops over to the Middle East with a SPECULATION they may attack us here. We've were over there "fighting terrorism" back in the 90's. A lot of good that did us on 9/11. Technology and innovation gives terrorists the ability to attack us without even crossing our borders. Al Qaeda probably has a multitude of sleeper cells over here as we speak. They did it in 2001, what makes you think it's any different today?
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500024
You need to quit listening to Hannity and O'Reilly. I don't know where you come up with some of the stuff you rant about. Current energy policies have been in place since Clinton. Obama has given more gun rights than taken away (which is pretty much zero), our economy started going down the tubes before he got into office (of course you want to hold him to his supposed policy stating he'd turn it around in 4 years, while Mitt is admitting it'll take him at least 8-10), and our we've spent more money on our military per capita than we have on our entire citizenship. If idiots like Bush would keep us out of pointless wars, we wouldn't have to spend as much as we do. The Constitution says to protect our BORDERS. That doesn't mean ship 70,000 troops over to the Middle East with a SPECULATION they may attack us here. We've were over there "fighting terrorism" back in the 90's. A lot of good that did us on 9/11. Technology and innovation gives terrorists the ability to attack us without even crossing our borders. Al Qaeda probably has a multitude of sleeper cells over here as we speak. They did it in 2001, what makes you think it's any different today?
Obama slammed the breaks on leases and new permits on federal lands, that is a fact. What gun right has 0bama given us? He ended the long held practice of selling spent brass to commercial reloaders and is instead selling it for scrap which not only is less money to the government it has a notable effect on the price of ammo. He banned the re importation of M1's from South Korea, another source of income for the government and ends another long standing policy. Those historic guns end up in the hands of collectors, not gang bangers. You have to attend 2 DCM shoots, pass a background check WITH fingerprints just to qualify to buy one.
So I spose you opposed Clinton sending us into Bosnia and Somalia?
 

acrylic51

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My biggest question is most are for this "testing".......The "who" shoulders the responsibility of paying for it.......The ones on welfare sure as heck that are "hot" aren't going to pay for the test, and we all know dang well, somehow it will get pushed on all of us tax payers to foot the bill.......A side note.....LittleDynam1te how old are you........
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500031
Obama slammed the breaks on leases and new permits on federal lands, that is a fact. What gun right has 0bama given us? He ended the long held practice of selling spent brass to commercial reloaders and is instead selling it for scrap which not only is less money to the government it has a notable effect on the price of ammo. He banned the re importation of M1's from South Korea, another source of income for the government and ends another long standing policy. Those historic guns end up in the hands of collectors, not gang bangers. You have to attend 2 DCM shoots, pass a background check WITH fingerprints just to qualify to buy one.
So I spose you opposed Clinton sending us into Bosnia and Somalia?
He allowed guns into National Parks. He's never hinted at touching the 2nd Amendment.
He didn't slam any brakes. The oil companies hae a multitude of leases available, they just don't want to spend the money trying to develop them. They just opened a whole butt load of leases in the Gulf. You want to complain about the lack of oil production, go whine to the big oil companies.
Actually, I've had a problem with our military involement ANYWHERE in the world. I don't know where politicians think we need to be the Protector's Of The World. Everytime there's some skirmish, we get involved. Granted Somalia and some of these African nations do need our support because it has more to do with human trafficing, and the desemation of entire communities of innocent men, women, and children. We're in the Middle East to prtect oil, plain and simple. I could care less about Israel and Palestine. If those radical religious sects want to blow one another up, who am I to stop them.
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500048
He allowed guns into National Parks. He's never hinted at touching the 2nd Amendment.
He didn't slam any brakes. The oil companies hae a multitude of leases available, they just don't want to spend the money trying to develop them. They just opened a whole butt load of leases in the Gulf. You want to complain about the lack of oil production, go whine to the big oil companies.
Actually, I've had a problem with our military involement ANYWHERE in the world. I don't know where politicians think we need to be the Protector's Of The World. Everytime there's some skirmish, we get involved. Granted Somalia and some of these African nations do need our support because it has more to do with human trafficing, and the desemation of entire communities of innocent men, women, and children. We're in the Middle East to prtect oil, plain and simple. I could care less about Israel and Palestine. If those radical religious sects want to blow one another up, who am I to stop them.
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500012
I thought u were mad about wat I was saying all I want is my rights I was given one thing that really ticks me off is Obama saying its ok for Europe to taxes us wen were in bigger debt than they are who Sid u call a liberal?
You aren't even old enough to have earned those "rights"......Serve and earn them and then there "yours".............
 

snakeblitz33

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500053
You aren't even old enough to have earned those "rights"......Serve and earn them and then there "yours".............
I never served my country - and yet I feel like I have still earned the right to vote...
LittleDynamite, If you could just please stop and think for yourself a minute and stop regurgitating what you have heard your parents and peers repeating... you may learn something about the world and the way it works. I don't want to single you out either, there are many people who discuss politics on this board who listen to their peers more than their gut and own research... on both sides!
In a way, the President is nothing more than a figurehead - and pretty much only has the ability to veto - but can always be overturned by our congressmen (and women). If you don't like something that is going on in your government, concentrate on electing local and state officials/representatives who reflect your OWN values, opinions and beliefs. The President doesn't have as much power as the American public thinks he does.
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500072
I never served my country - and yet I feel like I have still earned the right to vote...
Seth wasn't really implying about serving.....More on the line, he spouts off rhetoric, and is so wet behind the ears....When he gets out there and humps everyday and the daily grind "we all" do, then he can speak from some experience....Not what he believes....He has no real clue as to the realm or scope of things IMO......He's still in high school and what does he really know; experienced in the "real world".....Paying the mortgage, worrying about the kids, food, healthcare, or just how rough day to day living is.......
LittleDynamite, If you could just please stop and think for yourself a minute and stop regurgitating what you have heard your parents and peers repeating... you may learn something about the world and the way it works.
What I was trying to get at Seth......All this talk about "weed", guns.....I get a bit weird, when people "think" they "know" and have never "earned the T shirt".......He's not even old enough to buy his first hand gun....Not knocking younger kids, but irritating the garbage that is spewed.

I don't want to single you out either, there are many people who discuss politics on this board who listen to their peers more than their gut and own research... on both sides!
In a way, the President is nothing more than a figurehead - and pretty much only has the ability to veto - but can always be overturned by our congressmen (and women). If you don't like something that is going on in your government, concentrate on electing local and state officials/representatives who reflect your OWN values, opinions and beliefs. The President doesn't have as much power as the American public thinks he does.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500072
I never served my country - and yet I feel like I have still earned the right to vote...
LittleDynamite, If you could just please stop and think for yourself a minute and stop regurgitating what you have heard your parents and peers repeating... you may learn something about the world and the way it works. I don't want to single you out either, there are many people who discuss politics on this board who listen to their peers more than their gut and own research... on both sides!
In a way, the President is nothing more than a figurehead - and pretty much only has the ability to veto - but can always be overturned by our congressmen (and women). If you don't like something that is going on in your government, concentrate on electing local and state officials/representatives who reflect your OWN values, opinions and beliefs. The President doesn't have as much power as the American public thinks he does.
I get on some of these political forums, and I sit back and laugh about all the Conservatives thinking this country will meet Armageddon if Obama gets re-elected. I keep trying to tell them the POTUS office isn't what they should be concerned about. It's the Senate race that will determine the direction this country will be heading in the next 4 years. If the Dems win the Senate (the House is locked in for the Republicans), then we'll have the same political party division we'e had for the last 2 years. If Obama wins, the House will continue to reject anything he puts in front of them. If Romney wins, the House will pass every piece of legislation he brings to them, and the Senate will just toss it right back at them. People are clueless if they honestly think Romney will have the "bipartisanship" to convince the Senate to pass any legislation he proposes.
Tax Cuts for the rich - nope
Repeal Obamacare - won't happen (couldn't do it anyways after the SCOTUS found it Constitutional)
Abortion - nope
Ban Gay Marriage - no chance
Increase military spending - doubtful, since we're supposed to be completely out of the Middle East in another year. Why do we need more Navy ships?
Unfortuantely, at least the next two years of either the Romney or Obama Administration will be stagnant unless you can get the House and Senate to cooperate with one another. But as long as you have people like Boehner, McConnell, Reid, and Pelosi in office, that'll never happen.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393422/must-be-election-time-cause-we-need-to-drug-test-welfare-people/20#post_3500048
He allowed guns into National Parks. He's never hinted at touching the 2nd Amendment.
He didn't slam any brakes. The oil companies hae a multitude of leases available, they just don't want to spend the money trying to develop them. They just opened a whole butt load of leases in the Gulf. You want to complain about the lack of oil production, go whine to the big oil companies.
Actually, I've had a problem with our military involement ANYWHERE in the world. I don't know where politicians think we need to be the Protector's Of The World. Everytime there's some skirmish, we get involved. Granted Somalia and some of these African nations do need our support because it has more to do with human trafficing, and the desemation of entire communities of innocent men, women, and children. We're in the Middle East to prtect oil, plain and simple. I could care less about Israel and Palestine. If those radical religious sects want to blow one another up, who am I to stop them.
Permits for drilling are down and so are leases. You can keep repeating the lies but it doesn't make them true.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/fact-check-oil-gas/index.html
During the last three fiscal years totally under Bush, there were 9,661 "new leases" granted for federal lands. For the three most recent fiscal years (which includes a few months of Bush's administration), there were 5,568 such new leases. This works out to a 42.4% decrease.
Take the same comparable periods for drilling permits on federal lands. There were 20,479 for the last three years under Bush, then 12,821 for the most recent three including much of Obama's first term. This is a 37.4% decrease.
 
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