If that was the case, nobody would have had any luck at all with sugar/vodka/vinegar dosing and it would have died before the second person saw it. This process must work otherwise there wouldn't be huge threads on another site where lots of people have done it and had good results with it. In fact, i haven't seen anybody who has had a bad experience with sugar dosing yet. Not saying they aren't out there and that this is fool proof and perfectly safe, just that with all the research i have read, and people i have talked to about this, nobody has shown me a link to anybody having their tank crash becuase of dosing with sugar. Even the people who have posted in this very thread who have done it didn't say anything about having bad effects on their tank. It has shown to work effectivly at reducing nitrates and phosphates, and plenty of people still disagree with this process, and that was my purpose for this thread in the first place. Many people have either never heard about it, or brush it off as something only idiots do and that the absolute only way to have low nitrates is with a dsb/macro/waterchanges. I made this thread to bring this to the attention of the masses of people who are either skeptical at best (like me) or just plain didn't know this existed in the first place, becuase if this works, i see no reason why people should discriminate against this process just becuase it isn't the norm. I understand it isn't very well researched just yet, and its still an imerging technique, but without people to try it and actually moniter results and compile them for someone to analyze, it would die out and never become a viable way to reduce nitrates and phosphates. Sorry if I came off rude there, but im tired of people hinting at that this will not work and that i should stop and resume nothing but waterchanges. I understand that as of now, water changes are the best way of doing pretty much anything, but im not a closed minded person, and this hobby is still growing leaps and bounds all the time, but without experimenting nothing will change and we will forever be stuck with weekly or monthly water changes (not that they are bad, becuase they are a great way to get trace elements and anything else that isn't added directly to the tank). I am just trying to spread this possibly very usefull information to the mass of people who don't know about it for them to make there own judgment on. But for every one person who has done this and had good results, there is 100 closed minded people who have some reason why they don't like it even though they haven't tried it, and won't try it just becuase its not a proven method. Again, sorry if i sounded rude, but i had to say something.