My first anemone

[saltwatersubie]

Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2903447
I was just rereading this thread. I am unclear, is it hiding or out in the open? If it's hiding (your lights are too strong for it right now) you will need to protect it for a while from your strong lighting. Keep it off to the side and slowly acclimate it over the course of a couple weeks. You may need to shade it, you can partially cover it using something non flamable, in the past I have used a pie plate or small cookie sheet, you can move it a bit every couple days exposing it to more and more light.
It's not trying to hide at the moment. It also has a little more color to it.

 

[lmecher]

Originally Posted by saltwatersubie
http:///forum/post/2903488
It's not trying to hide at the moment. It also has a little more color to it.
It has more color? The anemone in the picture has no color, even the foot is white. Is it at the bottom of your tank now? When you put it in the breeder basket, it will be very near the surface so as not to shock it and cause more stress, you will need to protect it from your lights.
Meowser: Will send PM don't want to hijack this thread.

 

[meowzer]

ok...thanks

 

[rod buehle]

Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2903475
LMECHER....Let me ask you something...when I get my replacement anemone...(next day or 2 I think)...should I put it in the breeder basket to acclimate it (after the bag float stuff)
(Im not LMECHER but I do want to throw a couple of pennies into the ring.)
I would not, unless _maybe_ if the anemone is small and your clowns are pestering it. Un-natural conditions such as a breeders net will not help an anemone "settle in" at all. A breeders box/net can have its place but I wouldnt use one for aclimation purposes. If you need to keep large aggressive clowns away from an anemone that is not doing so well another option is to place a basket/box like MKzimms explained.. the lil plastic mesh boxes that strawberries come in works well.

 

[rod buehle]

Originally Posted by Shrimpi
http:///forum/post/2903471
silversides are fine.. but I wouldnt call them the 'best' they are more like the most 'common' anemone food.
I agree. I wouldnt even say that they are an OK choice. very few anemones are actually fish eaters. Many people repot bad experiences after feeding silver sides. Most anemones are found with small pods in their gut when studied. I beleive teh silverside recomendations come from a web site that is often recommended for rose anemones. That site is OK for some basic knowledge, but the person is no expert. I believe that they have been banned from different boards from spamming that site. Anyone that has that many splits is doing something to stress them. We all know that roses usually split due to some sort of stress. That stress can be caused by caused by many different things and many of them can be very un-noticable.. being fed too much/too large.. A water change with paramaters that are slightly different.. Being next to another coral that they cant handle. a slight temp spike
For a sick anemone start with very small pieces of meat, like the size of a mysis shrimp. Even though the anemone can take larger pieces, they seem to respond better to smaller pieces. Think about when you arent feeling good.. you eat some soup, some crackers.. a little here and there. You should give him a variety (whether he is sick or not).
Silversides, mysis, any prepackaged fish store 'cubes' along with whatever you find at your local grocery store's seafood counter.. shrimp, scallops, swordfish, shark.. whatever they have! Just buy small quantities, its much cheaper than buying it from the LFS. Not to mention that silversides smell worse than anything Ive ever bought. I still offer them, but there are alot of other options.
Also, soaking in selcon or Zoe is a MUST with a sick anemone. I still do it for non-sick ones.
Good Luck! It takes a good few months to see improvement but, keep us updated!
Jess
If getting seafood from the store Rinse it some then rinse it again, and then rinse a lot more. seafoods come packed in tripolyphosphate. Its a food preservative that doesnt have to be on the label/ingredients, but its something we dont want in our tanks.

 

[rod buehle]

Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2903052
On a side note, this is the second very bleached anemone purchased from Saltwaterfish.com we've seen, Meowzer just lost one, what's going on there, you should contact them, let them know you recieved an anemone that may not make it just in case you loose yours too. Maybe they are getting too stressed during shipping, this is upsetting.

Only the second ??

 

[lmecher]

Originally Posted by Rod Buehle
http:///forum/post/2904391
(Im not LMECHER but I do want to throw a couple of pennies into the ring.)
I would not, unless _maybe_ if the anemone is small and your clowns are pestering it. Un-natural conditions such as a breeders net will not help an anemone "settle in" at all. A breeders box/net can have its place but I wouldnt use one for aclimation purposes. If you need to keep large aggressive clowns away from an anemone that is not doing so well another option is to place a basket/box like MKzimms explained.. the lil plastic mesh boxes that strawberries come in works well.
A coulpe things I need to address-
I sent Meowzer a PM, I told her the very same thing you did, I didn't want to hijack this thread.
Tiny roses splitting-This little rose was a rescent addition, It belonged to my brother. I thought the same way you do, he is doing something to stress them. I providing them with excellent conditions, water, lighting, flow and I have introduced feeding high quality food soaked in selcon but the splitting has continued under my care (2 months) I am doing my best to figure this out and correct it. I welcome suggestions.
Breeder Basket, I thought in this case it could be useful. Second bta purchased from SWF.com in the space of a week that arrived in this condition, the last one died. Shipping, acclimating, hosting all in one day may be more than it can handle. Segragated it can settle without harassment and lighting, flow, and feeding attempts will be easier to monitor. If left they are apt to go into hiding and in the event it dies, removal can be difficult. Under the current conditions I am not too confident this one is going to make it.
Saltwatersubie, whatever you decide to do, I hope your anemone makes it it through this tough time, you have a long road ahead of you. Bleached anemones can recover but it takes a long time for them to regrow their zooxanthellae The most important things you can provide right now are near perfect water conditons, good lighting, flow (enough to keep tentacles gently moving) and supplimental feedings. My advice/opinions come from a place of true concern.

 

[saltwatersubie]

Thank you everyone for all the information. I did try to feed it today, it held on to the food for about 15 minutes but then let it go. After much consideration I think I will cover the nem with a plastic basket to keep my clowns away. I do not think that it will survive if I try to move it. I will keep everyone updated about it's progress.

 

[lmecher]

Originally Posted by Rod Buehle
http:///forum/post/2904397
Only the second ??

I ment to write the second one in the past week, slip of the finger.
I am hadicapped, I am on my son's laptop and I am not use to the keyboard and mouse, my curser sometimes jumps when I touch the mouse. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[joe____17]

Whats a bleached anemone?

 

[lmecher]

coppied from ultimatereef.com
BLEACHING
Bleaching is a general term given to the loss of an anemone’s zooxanthellae; so named due to the washing out of colour with the most severe cases the anemone appearing white. The term bleaching is accepted as the mass expulsion of zooxanthellae. This can happen for a number of reasons - mainly due to some sort of environmental stress. This covers excessive temperature changes, insufficient lighting, excessive lighting, excessive salinity change, etc. Physical stress can also cause bleaching.

 

[rod buehle]

Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2904500
A coulpe things I need to address-
I sent Meowzer a PM, I told her the very same thing you did, I didn't want to hijack this thread.
Tiny roses splitting-This little rose was a rescent addition, It belonged to my brother. I thought the same way you do, he is doing something to stress them. I providing them with excellent conditions, water, lighting, flow and I have introduced feeding high quality food soaked in selcon but the splitting has continued under my care (2 months) I am doing my best to figure this out and correct it. I welcome suggestions.
Breeder Basket, I thought in this case it could be useful. Second bta purchased from SWF.com in the space of a week that arrived in this condition, the last one died. Shipping, acclimating, hosting all in one day may be more than it can handle. Segragated it can settle without harassment and lighting, flow, and feeding attempts will be easier to monitor. If left they are apt to go into hiding and in the event it dies, removal can be difficult. Under the current conditions I am not too confident this one is going to make it.
Saltwatersubie, whatever you decide to do, I hope your anemone makes it it through this tough time, you have a long road ahead of you. Bleached anemones can recover but it takes a long time for them to regrow their zooxanthellae The most important things you can provide right now are near perfect water conditons, good lighting, flow (enough to keep tentacles gently moving) and supplimental feedings. My advice/opinions come from a place of true concern.

I wasnt criticizing your advice.. just offering another point of view.
I agree about the hyjacking, but once a question has been asked, and if its not too far off subject, and if the thread has mostley "run its course", I like to see it answered in the thread because likely more people have the same question
Splitting: As i tried to say in the previous post.. The stress that can cause a split can sometimes be so subtle that we dont know what it might be. Many time when an aquariest has been told that their anemone has split due to stress, they think that they are being told that their tank is out of whack or that they cant properly care for one. That is not the case at all. The stress can sometimes be from a water change..
Your breeder box is a nice one to use, and often can have their place. however I wouldnt put a new anemone in there just because its a new anemone. Give it a chance to settle-in in the most natural way possible. Putting it into a box/net from the get go will cause the anemone to "get uses to the new surroundings" twice. Once in tge net/box, and then again when you release it from the net/box. Also, if the fish arent too aggressive and too large in comparrison to the anemone, they can often help the anemone settle in IME.

 

[lmecher]

Your breeder box is a nice one to use, and often can have their place. however I wouldnt put a new anemone in there just because its a new anemone. Give it a chance to settle-in in the most natural way possible. Putting it into a box/net from the get go will cause the anemone to "get uses to the new surroundings" twice. Once in tge net/box, and then again when you release it from the net/box. Also, if the fish arent too aggressive and too large in comparrison to the anemone, they can often help the anemone settle in IME.
What are you talking about Rod. I was not referring Meowzers question. the "this case" I am referring to is this thread Saltwatersubie.
As I have stated before I told Meowzer the same thing you did. She just lost one that was shipped to her from SWF.com. It was badly bleached, had a torn foot, hid at the very bottom of the tank, eventaully died. She is expecting a replacement soon. I will keep in mind what you said and answer in the thread. : )

 

[saltwatersubie]

So just to update everyone, yesterday I bought and fed silversides. I cut one into thirds and gave it to my bta. This time he grabbed it up and immediately proceeded to eat the whole silverside. He stayed compact the rest of the day (3 hrs) until the lunar lights came on. He seems to be getting a stronger green hue as well. I know I'm not out of the dark yet but I think there is hope for the lil guy.

 

[dustyboy316]

wow, good to hear. As long as it's eating and getting light it should come back to life.
Good job so far, especially taking everyones advice and acting quickly.