hm... seems like the mangroves i thought were going to be easy just keep on getting more complacated

, i'll give it a try in the tank and see how it goes, im not going to rely on it as filtertation but as a decoration, same with the pot idea, it would be a nice look in my cousins house next to the turtle tank
j21kickster thanks again for your expertise in the world of saltwater
also, i noticed you use a enhiem canister filter(are they easy to use?), would you recommend that over my dad's marineland emperor filter, in his 55 gallon, im converting it, just took out the water. Im going to try for 60 lbs of uncured live rock and 250 lbs of playsand and put it in during the cycle, its going to be a fish only tank but no big triggers/angels and such just things like blennies and gobies