My new BTA
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lmecher
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That is beautiful, looks similar to mine which has already lost it's bubbled tips. Don't be suprised if yours does too. Mine has lost some of the green cloloring as well, is looking quite brown but it may regain it when I get the new tank going, I just picked up a sunpod 250 MH from a fellow reefer.
Enough about me, congratulations
Enough about me, congratulations
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2937826
That is beautiful, looks similar to mine which has already lost it's bubbled tips. Don't be suprised if yours does too. Mine has lost some of the green cloloring as well, is looking quite brown but it may regain it when I get the new tank going, I just picked up a sunpod 250 MH from a fellow reefer.
Enough about me, congratulations
Hmmm it is supposed to be a pink one...It does has pink dots on each bubble tip, but it also does has a greenish and also a pinkish tint...why do they lose their bubbles I thought they are supposed to have them.
Congrats on the light...you'll like it
http:///forum/post/2937826
That is beautiful, looks similar to mine which has already lost it's bubbled tips. Don't be suprised if yours does too. Mine has lost some of the green cloloring as well, is looking quite brown but it may regain it when I get the new tank going, I just picked up a sunpod 250 MH from a fellow reefer.
Enough about me, congratulations
Hmmm it is supposed to be a pink one...It does has pink dots on each bubble tip, but it also does has a greenish and also a pinkish tint...why do they lose their bubbles I thought they are supposed to have them.
Congrats on the light...you'll like it
lmecher
Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2937897
IDK when I went into TX to pick up my wet/dry it was at the store. He said it was a pink one...I see some green, but the tips do have pink dots....we shall see. All my water conditions are good, I now have my sump, so I sure hope this one makes it...
Oh man, just sliced my finger on my glass cover
http:///forum/post/2937897
IDK when I went into TX to pick up my wet/dry it was at the store. He said it was a pink one...I see some green, but the tips do have pink dots....we shall see. All my water conditions are good, I now have my sump, so I sure hope this one makes it...
Oh man, just sliced my finger on my glass cover
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2937901
Oh man, just sliced my finger on my glass cover
OUCH!!!
http:///forum/post/2937901
Oh man, just sliced my finger on my glass cover
OUCH!!!
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Lmecher
http:///forum/post/2937926
Well, I'm gonna live
It is throbbing like you-know-what. I hope I don't get an infection, had to remove my pump, happened when I was replacing it. My hands were in the tank.
This fish tank stuff is dangerous..lol..I have had more scrapes, bumps and bruises since I started this...not to mention broken nails..
http:///forum/post/2937926
Well, I'm gonna live
It is throbbing like you-know-what. I hope I don't get an infection, had to remove my pump, happened when I was replacing it. My hands were in the tank.
This fish tank stuff is dangerous..lol..I have had more scrapes, bumps and bruises since I started this...not to mention broken nails..
rod buehle
Member
Did you get an actuall wet/dry, or one which has been converted into a sump?
Wet drys are designed to produce nitrates which arent really all that good for anemones.
Wet/dry is a superior form of filtration for fish only tanks because they are superior at converting the ammonia to a harmless (to fish) nitrate. They are superior because the very oxygen rich water that passes over the filter media (balls or roll) is high in oxygen. Oxygen rich water will harbor an aerobic bacteria Aerobic bacteria quickly converts ammonia to nitrite, and then to nitrate. BUT THATS WHERE IT STOPS. NITRATES BUILD, AND BUILD< AND BUILD.. (sorry, accidentally capped locked).
We want ANaerobic bacteria which is low in oxygen. Anaerobic bacteria will take the nitrogen cycle one step further by passing off the nitrate as a harmless gas into the atmosphere. Anaerobic bacteria colonize in oour live rock and deep sand beds. They will denitrify.
SOme people think " Hey, Ill use the wet dry to convert the ammonia to nitrate, then let the rock take care of the nitrates but it doesnt work that way..Aerobic bacteria, and anaerobic bacteria will compete for the same food, and IMO neither will ever reach their full potential if they have to compete for the same food source.
If possible, I would return the wt/dry and use that money to better the system in another way.
Good luck
Wet drys are designed to produce nitrates which arent really all that good for anemones.
Wet/dry is a superior form of filtration for fish only tanks because they are superior at converting the ammonia to a harmless (to fish) nitrate. They are superior because the very oxygen rich water that passes over the filter media (balls or roll) is high in oxygen. Oxygen rich water will harbor an aerobic bacteria Aerobic bacteria quickly converts ammonia to nitrite, and then to nitrate. BUT THATS WHERE IT STOPS. NITRATES BUILD, AND BUILD< AND BUILD.. (sorry, accidentally capped locked).
We want ANaerobic bacteria which is low in oxygen. Anaerobic bacteria will take the nitrogen cycle one step further by passing off the nitrate as a harmless gas into the atmosphere. Anaerobic bacteria colonize in oour live rock and deep sand beds. They will denitrify.
SOme people think " Hey, Ill use the wet dry to convert the ammonia to nitrate, then let the rock take care of the nitrates but it doesnt work that way..Aerobic bacteria, and anaerobic bacteria will compete for the same food, and IMO neither will ever reach their full potential if they have to compete for the same food source.
If possible, I would return the wt/dry and use that money to better the system in another way.
Good luck
rod buehle
Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2940164
This is what I have now..I have been told by many (here) that it is the same as a sump....Since I have had this (Saturday night) my water is crystal...and I mean CRYSTAL...my anemones are full and out, and even my fish seem happier...
They are superior because the very oxygen rich water that passes over the filter media (balls or roll) is high in oxygen. Oxygen rich water will harbor an aerobic bacteria Aerobic bacteria quickly converts ammonia to nitrite, and then to nitrate. BUT THATS WHERE IT STOPS. NITRATES BUILD, AND BUILD< AND BUILD.. (sorry, accidentally capped locked).
It will take awhile for the nitrates to build but they will. Those filters are designed to do so.
The clarity of your water has nothing to do with the actual "filter" part. The bacteria cant colonize enough that quickly to make a difference either way.. good or bad. The clarity is probably due to the increased/better protein skimming, and by the new mechanical filters (sponge and filter-floss) which will also colonize with aerobic bacteria and remember the aerobic bacteria stops at nitrates.
over time as you read more and more about bio balls, you can remove the balls and still use what you have. as a sump.
I have been told by many (here)
remember that this site is saltwaterFISH.com. A wet/dry is great for FISH tanks. Searching some of the REEF sites you will get a lot better info for setting up a tank to house inverts/anemones/corals and realize that bio-balls are 20 years ago
http:///forum/post/2940164
This is what I have now..I have been told by many (here) that it is the same as a sump....Since I have had this (Saturday night) my water is crystal...and I mean CRYSTAL...my anemones are full and out, and even my fish seem happier...
They are superior because the very oxygen rich water that passes over the filter media (balls or roll) is high in oxygen. Oxygen rich water will harbor an aerobic bacteria Aerobic bacteria quickly converts ammonia to nitrite, and then to nitrate. BUT THATS WHERE IT STOPS. NITRATES BUILD, AND BUILD< AND BUILD.. (sorry, accidentally capped locked).
It will take awhile for the nitrates to build but they will. Those filters are designed to do so.
The clarity of your water has nothing to do with the actual "filter" part. The bacteria cant colonize enough that quickly to make a difference either way.. good or bad. The clarity is probably due to the increased/better protein skimming, and by the new mechanical filters (sponge and filter-floss) which will also colonize with aerobic bacteria and remember the aerobic bacteria stops at nitrates.
over time as you read more and more about bio balls, you can remove the balls and still use what you have. as a sump.
I have been told by many (here)
remember that this site is saltwaterFISH.com. A wet/dry is great for FISH tanks. Searching some of the REEF sites you will get a lot better info for setting up a tank to house inverts/anemones/corals and realize that bio-balls are 20 years ago
rod buehle
Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2940201
Yes I have heard about the bio balls...I only put some of them temporarily...was thinking of getting a small light and chaeto....
http:///forum/post/2940201
Yes I have heard about the bio balls...I only put some of them temporarily...was thinking of getting a small light and chaeto....
rod buehle
Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2940282
OK, so the chaeto will be good for the anemone???
It will not really do anything for the anemone directly, but more so for the whole system. Any macro algae will use phosphate and nitrates to grow pulling them (some) from the system. The key to these lil glass boxes that we keep is matching/managing nutrient input and nutrient export. Protein skimming is the most efficient at export if the skimmer is good. Mostly helps with po4. The anaerobic bacteria in the rock and sand are good for nitrogen cycle, and macro algae will help with both.
The cheato (kay-toe) will also harbor some of the micro-fauna that we rely upon and some of it will make it back to the reef if the system is designed properly.
http:///forum/post/2940282
OK, so the chaeto will be good for the anemone???
It will not really do anything for the anemone directly, but more so for the whole system. Any macro algae will use phosphate and nitrates to grow pulling them (some) from the system. The key to these lil glass boxes that we keep is matching/managing nutrient input and nutrient export. Protein skimming is the most efficient at export if the skimmer is good. Mostly helps with po4. The anaerobic bacteria in the rock and sand are good for nitrogen cycle, and macro algae will help with both.
The cheato (kay-toe) will also harbor some of the micro-fauna that we rely upon and some of it will make it back to the reef if the system is designed properly.
subielover
Active Member
Great info Rod
