My Rock Is Dying! Curing, But Dying!

[lil.guppy]

Ok im the odd ball of this whole group and I decided to gently brush my LR with a tooth brush when it arrived. It is curring in my tank. My amm. as been at 1.0 so its not that bad. I have noticed though, that my green growth and the red colorations and green stuff is all starting to slowly turn white! I do daily water changes to keep all the water properties as low as I can. Will the stuff come back?

 

[saltn00b]

let it die, and the cycle continue naturally. it will all come back

 

[lil.guppy]

But I thought the whole point of buying live rock with goodies on it was so that you could have beautiful natural rock. If I let everything die isnt that a waste and I should of just bought base rock?

 

[scopus tang]

Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904768
Ok im the odd ball of this whole group and I decided to gently brush my LR with a tooth brush when it arrived. It is curring in my tank. My amm. as been at 1.0 so its not that bad. I have noticed though, that my green growth and the red colorations and green stuff is all starting to slowly turn white! I do daily water changes to keep all the water properties as low as I can. Will the stuff come back?

Patience young refi! Lighting changes and curing often cause an immediate die off of LR organisms (especially the coralline algae). It will return.

 

[lil.guppy]

Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2904772
Patience young refi! Lighting changes and curing often cause an immediate die off of LR organisms (especially the coralline algae). It will return.
I hope your right...
am I wasting my time doing daily water changes to keep the high points down?

 

[vinnyraptor]

Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904774
I hope your right...
am I wasting my time doing daily water changes to keep the high points down?

YES! let it spike and then come down naturally.

 

[scopus tang]

Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904774
I hope your right...
am I wasting my time doing daily water changes to keep the high points down?
Yes and no - keeping levels below toxic in the ammonia level will help keep organisms in/on your LR alive, but keep in mind that your goal is too build the levels of bacteria of the various type (those that breakdown ammonia, those that break down nitrates, and those that break down nitrites) too many water changes could potential slow or prevent the process. Generally it is recommended that water changes are only done during the cycling process if levels become toxic and when the nitrate level finally spikes.

 

[lil.guppy]

Nitrite = 1.0 and Ammonia = 1.0 In the mornings before a water change they are usually around the same if not just a slight more.
Would toxic levels be consider past 2.0 for Ni and 4.0 for Amm?

 

[florida joe]

Patience young refi!
you never said that to me Randy

 

[lil.guppy]

Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2904791
Patience young refi!
you never said that to me Randy

Now now....

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904790
Nitrite = 1.0 and Ammonia = 1.0 In the mornings before a water change they are usually around the same if not just a slight more.
Would toxic levels be consider past 2.0 for Ni and 4.0 for Amm?
Toxic levels of ammonia (where stuff starts dying in your $$$ live rock) is above 1.0ppm.
Toxic levels of Nitrite would be above 50.0ppm. I doubt you'll ever get above 10ppm Nitrite.
When I cycle a tank I do a large water change whenever ammonia exceeds 0.5ppm to avoid killing things in the live rock.

 

[scopus tang]

Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2904791
Patience young refi!
you never said that to me Randy

Joe, my friend, like myself, you have never been young

! Some people are just born old

 

[florida joe]

Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/2904799
Now now....

Salt burns but Randy stings

 

[lil.guppy]

I give up!

I changed half the water in my tank about 2 hours ago and the amm is now at death levels. This is pointless! Im just going to let it kill itself.......
Its going to be a depressing day.......

 

[florida joe]

hang in there i have a question. you said when it arrived it looked like it had a lot of coriline on it what do you mean when it arrived did you order it on line

 

[lil.guppy]

Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2904845
hang in there i have a question. you said when it arrived it looked like it had a lot of coriline on it what do you mean when it arrived did you order it on line
Yea for an amazing price too (cheapest I found) but I was dumb and I did the ground shipping. It took 6 days to get here but when I opened the package there was no bad odor or anything. Stuff started to actually grow past couple days, but now its starting to die off with this ammonia hike.

 

[subielover]

Sounds like it is doing what it is supposed to do

 

[spanko]

Bang is correct here, try to keep ammonia below .6 to maintain any extra special life on the rock. Otherwise don't worry because ammonia above that amount will still allow the rock to become "alive" in that the bacteria needed for you biofiltration will grow and become viable.
Have a read here.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/344927/hard-and-soft-cycling
Patience young refi!
you never said that to me Randy
Reply With Quote
Wa Wa..........

 

[lil.guppy]

Have a read here.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/344927/hard-and-soft-cycling
Thank you again for that thread I read the whole thing and its very interesting and informative. Im just thinking that since I freshen the water up and within 2 hours its at death levels I cant be changing the water every 2 hours.....or should I? I figured since the death levels have already been present for days even with water changes that I should just let it die off.

 

[subielover]

Maybe do a larger change. How big is your tank and how large are the water changes that you are doing?