NASCAR Fantasy League 2010

reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3241169
The guy was 180 laps down, and he was "racing" the 5th place car....Only a true fan of Edwards would defend that move.

I think it would have been fine if Edwards could had messed up his restart or nailed him under yellow or something. You can let some little insect keep taking you out and let is slide if Nascar isn't going to do something about it. I like Edwards but like I said, there isn't a defense for hitting someone going in the corner full speed.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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My opinion is that (whatever Edward's penalties are) is the price you pay. There obviously is no denying Carl intentionally did it, but like he said in the interview and I believe him, he didn't want that result. However all of the stuff has been intentional. Edwards vs. Keselowski, Busch vs. Vickers. It's just when you turn a guy at 185, you take a chance. If Brad just spins through the infield, maybe knocked the splitter off, Edwards and Brad are just brought to the Red Truck after the race. Or what happened, happens and it was inches from being another serious incident, and Edwards will have to face the piper.
What I am really, really, really PO'ed about, is Fox playing Brad's radio during the crash. He wasn't even stopped yet, and said "I don't think I'm okay." I instantly knew the severity of the crash with both side of his roof knocked in. Thankfully Brad is okay, but what happened if he wasn't? What if he said "I can't feel my legs?" Or let out an god-awful moan? I, nor the rest of America need to hear that.
I dunno about anyone else, but when he said "I don't think I'm okay" a chill ran down my spine. Anyone whose been in a decent car crash, knows that feeling. I had my crash flash back.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3241245
My opinion is that (whatever Edward's penalties are) is the price you pay. There obviously is no denying Carl intentionally did it, but like he said in the interview and I believe him, he didn't want that result. However all of the stuff has been intentional. Edwards vs. Keselowski, Busch vs. Vickers. It's just when you turn a guy at 185, you take a chance. If Brad just spins through the infield, maybe knocked the splitter off, Edwards and Brad are just brought to the Red Truck after the race. Or what happened, happens and it was inches from being another serious incident, and Edwards will have to face the piper.
What I am really, really, really PO'ed about, is Fox playing Brad's radio during the crash. He wasn't even stopped yet, and said "I don't think I'm okay." I instantly knew the severity of the crash with both side of his roof knocked in. Thankfully Brad is okay, but what happened if he wasn't? What if he said "I can't feel my legs?" Or let out an god-awful moan? I, nor the rest of America need to hear that.
I dunno about anyone else, but when he said "I don't think I'm okay" a chill ran down my spine. Anyone whose been in a decent car crash, knows that feeling. I had my crash flash back.
I missed that.
 
t316

t316

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He is lucky, that car could have easily went into a multi-roll that might have turned out much worse. Although I was happy to see a little action for a change, I do agree that Edwards was totally wrong. Not for causing a wreck, or the fact that he did it intentionally, but rather that he did it to a car that's on the lead lap and Edwards was 180 laps down (as kjr pointed out). That is unacceptable, total unsportsmanlike conduct, and he should get every penalty or fine that is coming to him.
I had to leave today for part of the race. Can someone fill me in on what happened to Jr. and/or Gordon? When I left, they were decent. When I returned, with about 30 laps to go, they are both a lap down and not one word from the announcers about either one of them. Was it a wreck, engine, they just sucked and fell off the pace, what?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Someone coming back into a race and hitting the perpetrator has happened before, it will happen again. Personally, I'd rather see them settle it like Alison and Cale did back in the day.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/3241361
He is lucky, that car could have easily went into a multi-roll that might have turned out much worse. Although I was happy to see a little action for a change, I do agree that Edwards was totally wrong. Not for causing a wreck, or the fact that he did it intentionally, but rather that he did it to a car that's on the lead lap and Edwards was 180 laps down (as kjr pointed out). That is unacceptable, total unsportsmanlike conduct, and he should get every penalty or fine that is coming to him.
I had to leave today for part of the race. Can someone fill me in on what happened to Jr. and/or Gordon? When I left, they were decent. When I returned, with about 30 laps to go, they are both a lap down and not one word from the announcers about either one of them. Was it a wreck, engine, they just sucked and fell off the pace, what?
Jr. got in trouble early on. He pitted out of cycle because he thought he had a loose wheel. Turned out to be his inner tire pressure was too low (or something to that effect), and it made it appear to be a loose wheel. He went into the pit for tire changes, and right after he came out, a caution occurred. It happened again later in the race (caution right after doing a green light pit). I missed Gordon, but heard he had tire problems as well.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3241245
My opinion is that (whatever Edward's penalties are) is the price you pay. There obviously is no denying Carl intentionally did it, but like he said in the interview and I believe him, he didn't want that result. However all of the stuff has been intentional. Edwards vs. Keselowski, Busch vs. Vickers. It's just when you turn a guy at 185, you take a chance. If Brad just spins through the infield, maybe knocked the splitter off, Edwards and Brad are just brought to the Red Truck after the race. Or what happened, happens and it was inches from being another serious incident, and Edwards will have to face the piper.
What I am really, really, really PO'ed about, is Fox playing Brad's radio during the crash. He wasn't even stopped yet, and said "I don't think I'm okay." I instantly knew the severity of the crash with both side of his roof knocked in. Thankfully Brad is okay, but what happened if he wasn't? What if he said "I can't feel my legs?" Or let out an god-awful moan? I, nor the rest of America need to hear that.
I dunno about anyone else, but when he said "I don't think I'm okay" a chill ran down my spine. Anyone whose been in a decent car crash, knows that feeling. I had my crash flash back.
Regardless of the result, the guy had no business doing it. He practically sought out Keselowski, and Keselowski was actually moving up and down the track to try and avoid him. Edwards just put a big target on himself. The wreck essentially hosed several other drivers because of the wreck during the restart. That killed Martin, K. Busch, and several others. Not to mention almost costing Kurt Busch the win. At least it moved Jr. from 37th to 15th after it was all over. That guy can't catch a break. He had the fastest car coming in, and couldn't tell the difference between a low tire and a loose wheel.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3241411
Regardless of the result, the guy had no business doing it. He practically sought out Keselowski, and Keselowski was actually moving up and down the track to try and avoid him. Edwards just put a big target on himself. The wreck essentially hosed several other drivers because of the wreck during the restart. That killed Martin, K. Busch, and several others. Not to mention almost costing Kurt Busch the win. At least it moved Jr. from 37th to 15th after it was all over. That guy can't catch a break. He had the fastest car coming in, and couldn't tell the difference between a low tire and a loose wheel.

At some point people are going to have to admit Jr is about 50% talent and 50% hype. The dude can drive a car but isn't anything special.
I got to give Edwards this. He didn't try to BS his way out of what he did. I think seeing Kaz upside down will make him think twice about pulling something like that again. I imagine the Jack will have a conversation with him too.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3241452
At some point people are going to have to admit Jr is about 50% talent and 50% hype. The dude can drive a car but isn't anything special.
I got to give Edwards this. He didn't try to BS his way out of what he did. I think seeing Kaz upside down will make him think twice about pulling something like that again. I imagine the Jack will have a conversation with him too.
After last season, and what he's done so far this year, I'd agree with you. I thought he was turning the corner with his 2nd place finish in Daytona, but now looks like he's back to his poor showings he had last year. I think half the problem with Jr. is he's still living under the shadow of his dad. He's got the talent, but doesn't seem to know how to use it to its full potential. If he can't do it with Hendrick, he's better off not driving and just becoming a good owner.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/3241361
He is lucky, that car could have easily went into a multi-roll that might have turned out much worse. Although I was happy to see a little action for a change, I do agree that Edwards was totally wrong. Not for causing a wreck, or the fact that he did it intentionally, but rather that he did it to a car that's on the lead lap and Edwards was 180 laps down (as kjr pointed out). That is unacceptable, total unsportsmanlike conduct, and he should get every penalty or fine that is coming to him.
I dunno, ever build a bomb and it end up being built a little too good? That is kinda what I think happened. I still when I watch that think, Edwards saw an opportunity to not do anything and take care of a problem. And that is what he did. The only problem is that instead of him going in circles he got stuck going backwards. (something I think is Kaz's fault)
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3241472
After last season, and what he's done so far this year, I'd agree with you. I thought he was turning the corner with his 2nd place finish in Daytona, but now looks like he's back to his poor showings he had last year. I think half the problem with Jr. is he's still living under the shadow of his dad. He's got the talent, but doesn't seem to know how to use it to its full potential. If he can't do it with Hendrick, he's better off not driving and just becoming a good owner.
If Jr. had the stones to pull the stuff his daddy did, and if Nascar cut him the breaks daddy got he would be a lot better.
I just wonder what Jimmy Johnson is going to do if he pulls off another championship. This is going to get boring for him at some point. Once Kyle Busch gets his head on straight look out. I think he will be the next dynasty assuming he matures like his brother did.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3241411
Regardless of the result, the guy had no business doing it. He practically sought out Keselowski, and Keselowski was actually moving up and down the track to try and avoid him. Edwards just put a big target on himself. The wreck essentially hosed several other drivers because of the wreck during the restart. That killed Martin, K. Busch, and several others. Not to mention almost costing Kurt Busch the win. At least it moved Jr. from 37th to 15th after it was all over. That guy can't catch a break. He had the fastest car coming in, and couldn't tell the difference between a low tire and a loose wheel.

The thing is, this stuff is cyclical. Back in the early 2000's it was Harvick, Biffle, Kenseth, etc that were beating and banging every weekend. Those guys grew up and matured.
Now it's Ky. Busch, Hamlin, Brad, Vickers, Edwards. These guys will eventually grow up and it will be Justin Allgaier, Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.'s turn.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3241500
The thing is, this stuff is cyclical. Back in the early 2000's it was Harvick, Biffle, Kenseth, etc that were beating and banging every weekend. Those guys grew up and matured.
Now it's Ky. Busch, Hamlin, Brad, Vickers, Edwards. These guys will eventually grow up and it will be Justin Allgaier, Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.'s turn.
Gads I still remember the race were Kevin Harvick went after Ricky Rudd in pit row after the race. Luckily for him he couldn't get to him. RR would have swatted him. That was his first or second season. He really grew up fast. Amazing how far he has come in the time he's been racing. If I was an owner I would make my young drivers study that guy.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3241500
The thing is, this stuff is cyclical. Back in the early 2000's it was Harvick, Biffle, Kenseth, etc that were beating and banging every weekend. Those guys grew up and matured.
Now it's Ky. Busch, Hamlin, Brad, Vickers, Edwards. These guys will eventually grow up and it will be Justin Allgaier, Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.'s turn.
You forgot Danica Patrick. That little pistol is a piece of dynamite waiting to explode. If Edwards would've done that to her, she'd been down in his pits with a tire wrench.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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you know what I"ve changed my mind, dang Edwards! That wreck on the last restart really screwed up my fantasy. I would have won again...
I also like how their "experts" wouldnt' be winning in our little league, well one guy would be 10 points up.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Bump........ Bristol boys!
Hopefully everyone is up to date on their driver changes (tho it's not that great of importance yet as we're only 5 races in).
Nationwide was a decent enough to watch. Anyone catch the "Legends Race" afterwards? Bunch of the old timers suited up. Unfortunately it didn't go so well at the end. Larry Pearson (grandson of the famous Pearson) was T-boned severely with 4 laps to go. He is okay for now, compound fracture on his ankle, fractured pelvis, and fractured right hand. Ouch...
 
scotts

scotts

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When you mention Bristol wrecks I will always think of this one.
You see how many empty seats there are at Bristol? Man there used to be a 10 year waiting list to get tickets before and now you can buy tickets from the speedway for this years races. How times have changed.
 
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