Need advice on heater and cooler operation

flower

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Actually I do turn off all the pumps to feed the seahorses. I will make sure the chiller is on the same shut off line.
Saxman...that socket I found is for the main power supply, I don't see where I could plug in a heater. Or did I misunderstand everything you were saying.?
 
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saxman

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I was going by the instuctions and it mentioned a plug near the switch. Does the unit have a detachable power cord?
 
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saxman

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Ah...I've never had/seen a small chiller with a removable power cord...
 

flower

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Saxman...
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Originally Posted by saxman http:///t/388606/need-advice-on-heater-and-cooler-operation/20#post_3429689
Ah...I've never had/seen a small chiller with a removable power cord...
The switch is in the back and not on the side like the instructions show either. It is a 1/10 EuroUSA....I'm thinking I can still do the heater on the return hose and set it ....lower or higher than the chiller...??? I confuse myself, so I need some reassurance.... I'm thinking if the heater is set at 72 it won't come on when the cooler keeps it at 75, but if the temp drops lower than 72 the heater will kick on and the chiller will not..am I correct ikn that assumption?
I want the tank to not get warmer than 75, and not cooler than 72
 

flower

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Meowzer.....According seahorse source erectus horses need between 72 and 77 degrees.
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///t/388606/need-advice-on-heater-and-cooler-operation/20#post_3429706
Flower, what temp do you keep your house? I keep my SH tank at 69/70
So according to them, your tank is way too cold. Maybe that's why your horses got stressed and became sick???? My house temp changes, and the other night it went down to 65...I lost the little yellow clown gobies, but the horses were fine, the Hectors gobie was okay as well. Some days it climbs to 75 and one time last summer it went to 78, I want to get it more regulated and keep the temp at 72 to 75 right in the middle of safe.
 
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saxman

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You'll have to figure out where to set the heater, as its internal thermostat won't be calibrated to the thermostat in the chiller's temp controller. You'll want to use a thermometer you trust and compare it to the chiller's readout get your water to 72*F if that's what you want your lower limit to be (you heater should be truned "off"/unplugged, but still in the return loop). Once you do that, you'll want to slowly turn your heater up until it just turns on. Now back it down until it just turns off. This will insure that your water never drops much below 72*F.
Of course, the simplest way to do this is to run both pieces of equipment from an external dual-temp controller like a Ranco. You set the chiller to 70*F, the heater to 80*F, plug them both in and set the controller to 74*F with a 1*F or 2*F differential.
Once you have it set up, you'll want to keep an eye on both pieces of equipment to be sure they aren't active simultaneously, as they're working against each other if this is the case.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by saxman http:///t/388606/need-advice-on-heater-and-cooler-operation/20#post_3430030
You'll have to figure out where to set the heater, as its internal thermostat won't be calibrated to the thermostat in the chiller's temp controller. You'll want to use a thermometer you trust and compare it to the chiller's readout get your water to 72*F if that's what you want your lower limit to be (you heater should be truned "off"/unplugged, but still in the return loop). Once you do that, you'll want to slowly turn your heater up until it just turns on. Now back it down until it just turns off. This will insure that your water never drops much below 72*F.
Of course, the simplest way to do this is to run both pieces of equipment from an external dual-temp controller like a Ranco. You set the chiller to 70*F, the heater to 80*F, plug them both in and set the controller to 74*F with a 1*F or 2*F differential.
Once you have it set up, you'll want to keep an eye on both pieces of equipment to be sure they aren't active simultaneously, as they're working against each other if this is the case.
Thank you. I can do the first one, I don't want to buy another piece of equipment right now...maybe in the future. You were a great help, I feel allot better about it now.
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/388606/need-advice-on-heater-and-cooler-operation/20#post_3430025
Meowzer.....According seahorse source erectus horses need between 72 and 77 degrees.
So according to them, your tank is way too cold. Maybe that's why your horses got stressed and became sick???? My house temp changes, and the other night it went down to 65...I lost the little yellow clown gobies, but the horses were fine, the Hectors gobie was okay as well. Some days it climbs to 75 and one time last summer it went to 78, I want to get it more regulated and keep the temp at 72 to 75 right in the middle of safe.
LOL...They are the ones who told me to keep it where I do.....
 

teresaq

Active Member
I guess I got to this thread late, lol
I run both my horse chillers thru a canister. I only keep filter floss in them, just to catch the big stuff.
I dont run any heaters on any of my tanks.
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flower

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Originally Posted by TeresaQ http:///t/388606/need-advice-on-heater-and-cooler-operation/20#post_3430058
I guess I got to this thread late, lol
I run both my horse chillers thru a canister. I only keep filter floss in them, just to catch the big stuff.
I dont run any heaters on any of my tanks.
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AH...I knew someone was using a canister with the chiller....my sanity is restored...LOL
My tank went down to 65 and I lost my little yellow clown gobies. Right now with no heater and no chiller it's 73. I have an inline heater and I ordered a Ehiem 1000 (317gph) pump. (I really like ehiem pumps) The max for the cooler is 315gph so I figured with the length the hose has to travel it should be fine. I have the canister still running right now. I would really like to not have to mess with a canister and it's upkeep. That way I have it as an emergancy filter if things go bad with either tank.
 
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saxman

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If the SH is ailing, definitely keep the temp down for the reason Flower mentioned. You can actually keep tropicals down to about 65*F anyhow. FWIW, we run our tropical SH setups with the chillers set at 74*F with a 2*F differential.
 
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