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flower
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Oh well the Green star polyps that were out have gone now…
However, the stress coat I think worked, the Hippo tang is out and swimming like he used to do and joy of joys my lawnmower blenny is also out and about. If I can keep the ammonia in check and it looks like I can, my fish will make it without any losses.
The ammonia disc says all is well..after another test because I am paranoid..the reading is ..0.5 from the 1.0 it was this morning, so it is going down.
I should be able to do a water change in the morning. Should I do a big one, all the water I have made up…30g or just save the mixed water and do small ones like 10g each day?
meowzer
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If it were me, I'd do a good size one, and then get water ready for another one. Depending on your water parameters will dictate when the next one should be....1 day....2 days....know what I mean
congrats on the lawnmower and tang
and as far as the gsp goes....that stuff is touchy on a normal day
congrats on the lawnmower and tang
and as far as the gsp goes....that stuff is touchy on a normal day
flower
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Originally Posted by luvmyreef
http:///forum/post/3258599
It sounds like the cycle stuff is working too. It gets rid of the ammonia. And great on the fish! So glad! and I agree with meowzer, do one large water change but add more cycle with it, and repeat in a couple days if needed....goodluck flower....
I was afraid to mention the cycle as a possible reason for it going down already, can that stuff really work that fast? I'm glad you mentioned it, as soon as you wrote that I should get it I knew it was a good idea.
Thank you Meowzer..will do.
http:///forum/post/3258599
It sounds like the cycle stuff is working too. It gets rid of the ammonia. And great on the fish! So glad! and I agree with meowzer, do one large water change but add more cycle with it, and repeat in a couple days if needed....goodluck flower....
I was afraid to mention the cycle as a possible reason for it going down already, can that stuff really work that fast? I'm glad you mentioned it, as soon as you wrote that I should get it I knew it was a good idea.
Thank you Meowzer..will do.
luvmyreef
Active Member
Yeah, it does work pretty fast if there is ammonia present for it to activate, so to speak. I don't know why people are afraid to use it. I add it with every new addition to my tanks just to help with the bioload/ filtration. No negative effects...it is good stuff, and like I said esp. in emergencies...
flower
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Originally Posted by luvmyreef
http:///forum/post/3258820
Hey Flower, any updates?? How are things going this am?
LOL…I just spent 10 minutes looking for my thread to update…I was looking in page 7 and still searching, I couldn’t remember the exact wording so search didn’t help me. Here you are on page 1.
I am having my coffee, I just got home from work and then I will do my water change which all set and ready to go. Perfect SG on the first try...
My ammonia test says .05 so no change there. If possible my coral looks worse, what isn’t shrunk is fraying at the edges.…however on all three rocks where I had Green star polyps each has a tiny healthy cluster of polyps to restart the colony. They had closed up last evening and I thought they were dead too but they were all out this morning.
I counted 10 on one rock that the sand softer had buried in the sand…I moved it up out of his way, 8 on another rock mid tank and 3 on the flat piece up at the top.
I also saw a snail going across the glass last night before going to work.
So I do have a small CUC that survived. All the fish survived and are doing great and eating this morning. They came out within an hour after I added the stress coat.
My tank smells “fishy”, not the ocean smell it usually has. Payday is the 28th, so by that time I should be able to add more to the CUC…
I think I may just order a reef package from SWF..Not one with a coral banded shrimp. They always have some predator in the mix...
...one has a brittle star, another the CBS and another with a sally light foot crab. The sally and brittle star won’t be a problem until later…but later does eventually get here.
I don’t understand why they don’t add a serpent star instead of a brittle, or emerald crabs instead of a sally. I want cleaner shrimp, not a coral banded shrimp that is a monster. Maybe I will order the package I want and give the unwanted pests away to the LFS.
http:///forum/post/3258820
Hey Flower, any updates?? How are things going this am?
LOL…I just spent 10 minutes looking for my thread to update…I was looking in page 7 and still searching, I couldn’t remember the exact wording so search didn’t help me. Here you are on page 1.
I am having my coffee, I just got home from work and then I will do my water change which all set and ready to go. Perfect SG on the first try...
My ammonia test says .05 so no change there. If possible my coral looks worse, what isn’t shrunk is fraying at the edges.…however on all three rocks where I had Green star polyps each has a tiny healthy cluster of polyps to restart the colony. They had closed up last evening and I thought they were dead too but they were all out this morning.
I also saw a snail going across the glass last night before going to work.
My tank smells “fishy”, not the ocean smell it usually has. Payday is the 28th, so by that time I should be able to add more to the CUC…
I think I may just order a reef package from SWF..Not one with a coral banded shrimp. They always have some predator in the mix...
I don’t understand why they don’t add a serpent star instead of a brittle, or emerald crabs instead of a sally. I want cleaner shrimp, not a coral banded shrimp that is a monster. Maybe I will order the package I want and give the unwanted pests away to the LFS.
luvmyreef
Active Member
Sounds like all is not lost! As far as the fishy smell, the water change should help that and do you run carbon? If not that can help too. Glad to hear fishies are ok still. Dont forget to add more cycle with the water change...and add a little extra too. You cant od the stuff, its just good bacteria.
* This thread has me on edge...I also have a glass heater covered in coralline and I am afraid it will bust...ordering a new one today......
* This thread has me on edge...I also have a glass heater covered in coralline and I am afraid it will bust...ordering a new one today......
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smartorl
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When you get out of the weeds, I can send you frag or two. I don't have alot as I am just restarting my tanks after storing them for a year but they are growing fast. I have been in your shoes and starting over gets expensive.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by smartorl
http:///forum/post/3258861
When you get out of the weeds, I can send you frag or two. I don't have alot as I am just restarting my tanks after storing them for a year but they are growing fast. I have been in your shoes and starting over gets expensive.
Luvmyreef:
My heater was plastic, it came apart at the top. I assume because I was tugging at it to release it from the rocks and it was brittle from coralline, when I scraped the coralline off to turn the dial down I must have weakened it…I had a glass one burst years ago and shock a freshwater tank. They sell a sheath you can put over a glass one and not have to buy another.
Smartorl:
That is so sweet. I won’t ask you to do that, just the fact you offer is very touching. Thank you!
My tank was at its limit in coral, everything had grown and I had no more room…I kept trying to add more but….now I guess I get the joy of finding some perhaps more challenging corals to try and keep . The ones I had were the beginner corals. I had them so long it hurt to see them die such an awful death.
It will be fun to restock the tank, I am sad now, but life is good.
http:///forum/post/3258861
When you get out of the weeds, I can send you frag or two. I don't have alot as I am just restarting my tanks after storing them for a year but they are growing fast. I have been in your shoes and starting over gets expensive.
Luvmyreef:
My heater was plastic, it came apart at the top. I assume because I was tugging at it to release it from the rocks and it was brittle from coralline, when I scraped the coralline off to turn the dial down I must have weakened it…I had a glass one burst years ago and shock a freshwater tank. They sell a sheath you can put over a glass one and not have to buy another.
Smartorl:
That is so sweet. I won’t ask you to do that, just the fact you offer is very touching. Thank you!
My tank was at its limit in coral, everything had grown and I had no more room…I kept trying to add more but….now I guess I get the joy of finding some perhaps more challenging corals to try and keep . The ones I had were the beginner corals. I had them so long it hurt to see them die such an awful death.
It will be fun to restock the tank, I am sad now, but life is good.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by nikeSB
http:///forum/post/3258971
just a thought here, do you think any heavy metals were released into your tank
...I only us RO water...unless there was something inside the heater after it broke open????
I am almost afraid to ask...why?
http:///forum/post/3258971
just a thought here, do you think any heavy metals were released into your tank
I am almost afraid to ask...why?
pirates
Member
there could be mercury from the heater or something else see if you can get some water to a lfs and have it tested for metals and if you could find out the comp. that made the heater and find out what is in the heater may not but better safe then sorry i dont know but just a thought
flower
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Originally Posted by Pirates
http:///forum/post/3259123
there could be mercury from the heater or something else see if you can get some water to a lfs and have it tested for metals and if you could find out the comp. that made the heater and find out what is in the heater may not but better safe then sorry i dont know but just a thought
The LFS has the same tests I do. I may use more because I test for magnesium. Other than copper they don’t have a way to test for mercury or other metals. The GSP is peeking out, so I think it should be alright. I removed the heater.
Right now I pretty much have a fish only tank. When I did the water change I removed the dead sea fan, Yellow Tonga , lettuce, Kenya trees and cabbage coral. They were just polluting the tank and I could see the spiky skeleton from the cabbage. I also left some of the meat of the Yellow Tonga behind, it was yellow and it might re-grow, I removed the brown stuff. I just couldn't stand to look at it anymore.
I left the zoa, GSP and some small Kenya trees that looked like it was in the sand and might make it. I left the snot spot from the Xenia, I have seen that re-grow too. I am going to wait a few weeks and watch for ammonia spikes, if all reads good then I plan to get a Reef Package from SWF and replenish my CUC first.
I added some extra carbon, and still running the Purigen, I also added the last of the cycle. The tank looks clear, the alert disc reads safe for now. I will test again in the morning. The fish are happy and nothing looks stressed. I have a few hermit crabs and snails that survived.
It may be because I have no CUC to clean them but my rock looks dark, even the coralline looks dark to me.
Here is a picture taken a moment ago. The fish hide when I bring out the camera.
http:///forum/post/3259123
there could be mercury from the heater or something else see if you can get some water to a lfs and have it tested for metals and if you could find out the comp. that made the heater and find out what is in the heater may not but better safe then sorry i dont know but just a thought
The LFS has the same tests I do. I may use more because I test for magnesium. Other than copper they don’t have a way to test for mercury or other metals. The GSP is peeking out, so I think it should be alright. I removed the heater.
Right now I pretty much have a fish only tank. When I did the water change I removed the dead sea fan, Yellow Tonga , lettuce, Kenya trees and cabbage coral. They were just polluting the tank and I could see the spiky skeleton from the cabbage. I also left some of the meat of the Yellow Tonga behind, it was yellow and it might re-grow, I removed the brown stuff. I just couldn't stand to look at it anymore.
I left the zoa, GSP and some small Kenya trees that looked like it was in the sand and might make it. I left the snot spot from the Xenia, I have seen that re-grow too. I am going to wait a few weeks and watch for ammonia spikes, if all reads good then I plan to get a Reef Package from SWF and replenish my CUC first.
I added some extra carbon, and still running the Purigen, I also added the last of the cycle. The tank looks clear, the alert disc reads safe for now. I will test again in the morning. The fish are happy and nothing looks stressed. I have a few hermit crabs and snails that survived.
It may be because I have no CUC to clean them but my rock looks dark, even the coralline looks dark to me.
Here is a picture taken a moment ago. The fish hide when I bring out the camera.
nikesb
Active Member
i ask, because usually when a heater breaks in a tank, some heavy metal may be released which is what caused alot of the death imo. the last time i saw something like this, it was with a plastic heater and it basically erupted in the tank and alot of heavy metals got into the tank. he had to basically throw away his live rock and start new with everything
as for mercury, i doubt there was any mercury in the heater itself. not sure what kind of metals would be in it, i just know there would be some
as for mercury, i doubt there was any mercury in the heater itself. not sure what kind of metals would be in it, i just know there would be some
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by nikeSB
http:///forum/post/3259139
i ask, because usually when a heater breaks in a tank, some heavy metal may be released which is what caused alot of the death imo. the last time i saw something like this, it was with a plastic heater and it basically erupted in the tank and alot of heavy metals got into the tank. he had to basically throw away his live rock and start new with everything
as for mercury, i doubt there was any mercury in the heater itself. not sure what kind of metals would be in it, i just know there would be some
The heater was clean, nothing oozing out nothing erupted that I could see. Nothing is floating in the tank. The death was due to electrocution. The fish are fine, the hermits that lived act fine, there are snails and some coral is peeking out. So am going to act like that is all have to concern myself with for now. If I find later that no coral can live, then I will assume otherwise, and keep in mind what you shared here as a possible cause.
http:///forum/post/3259139
i ask, because usually when a heater breaks in a tank, some heavy metal may be released which is what caused alot of the death imo. the last time i saw something like this, it was with a plastic heater and it basically erupted in the tank and alot of heavy metals got into the tank. he had to basically throw away his live rock and start new with everything
as for mercury, i doubt there was any mercury in the heater itself. not sure what kind of metals would be in it, i just know there would be some
The heater was clean, nothing oozing out nothing erupted that I could see. Nothing is floating in the tank. The death was due to electrocution. The fish are fine, the hermits that lived act fine, there are snails and some coral is peeking out. So am going to act like that is all have to concern myself with for now. If I find later that no coral can live, then I will assume otherwise, and keep in mind what you shared here as a possible cause.