New 300 Gallon(lots Of Pics) Critique Welcome

unleashed

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looks real good.be very careful with those rocks with corals I have found my shark toppling some pretty big rocks already.im talking 10 lbs and up
 

psusocr1

Active Member
my shark is now 16 inches give or take an inch.
unleashed,
honestly my shark is the laziest most inactive thing in my tank! he only comes out during feeding time and the rest he lays around in his caves. my stingrays have knocked a few over until i decided to marine epoxy all of my rocks into place so their not going anywere!! but thanks for the heads up!!
 

cajunboy

New Member
how old is the shark and where did you get your shark from. I never seen an grey bamboo for sale ever. you can pm me with the info. :cheer:
 

goodwin9

Active Member
Interesting collection of fish in your tank. I would have never guessed that they would all get along so well. Kepp us posted. Would like to see your tank with the new lights
 

psusocr1

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cajunboy how old is the shark and where did you get your shark from. I never seen an grey bamboo for sale ever. you can pm me with the info
witha ll do respect your new to the board i dunno what kind of setup you have etc. if i feel you do have a proper setup iw ould be willing to help you out with a shark. ALSO i got lucky and ran into a guy who had a grey bamboo, very rare and hard to get , but their around seasonly from time to time. im not sure how old he is but if i had to guess i would say about 4+ years old.
BellaNavis WOW, nice pictures, I LOVE how the rays always seem to be together, they must be in love!!
funny you say that because they are male and female, they arre both sexually mature and it happens to be mating season for the next 2 months!! their has been captive breeding with this particular species so well see what happens, but they do follow each other around constantly, and they also sleep almost on top of each other..soooooo :thinking:
goodwin9 Interesting collection of fish in your tank. I would have never guessed that they would all get along so well. Kepp us posted. Would like to see your tank with the new lights
new lights will be going up within the week or so, i have never had any problems with aggression between fish , the only time is when i added my last fish my maroon clown got a little defensive of the rock he hosts, but he stopped after two days , never any fights etc. which i think is because of the specific order i added my fish. and also they are all around 7-8 inches.
 

unleashed

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Originally Posted by psusocr1
my shark is now 16 inches give or take an inch.
unleashed,
honestly my shark is the laziest most inactive thing in my tank! he only comes out during feeding time and the rest he lays around in his caves. my stingrays have knocked a few over until i decided to marine epoxy all of my rocks into place so their not going anywere!! but thanks for the heads up!!
good idea for the epoxy personally I have never been able to get that stuff to hold well for me ive tried many times.,my shark is a bit larger than yours but not by much 3-4 inches give or take.but my tank has many more corals and rocks to contend with.we are getting ready to pull out all the corals and make the 300 a fowlr.we only see my shark at feeding time thats when he does the most knocking things around.so we purchased a 150 shallow tank for our reef.but i still like your set up
 

1911_guy

Member
Kudos on your DIY tank.
I have a few questions for you.
I know you are into building your own aquariums. I have read a little bit and bookmarked different threads for when I get more time. What made you go with acrylic? (pros/cons)
What thickness did you use and what thickness would have you used if you chose glass?
You give a lot of credit to your skimmer for handling the bioload. What model do you use and why did you opt for the external model?
How do you get your pictures to turn out so clear? Seems to take my 45 photos to get ONE decent enough to tell it's a fish.
I'm sure you drilled for water circulation to and from your sump. What size, how many and what placement did you make the holes? How much flow are you getting?
I'm curious as to how much was spent on materials for your aquarium, including sealant and equipment used to cut or shape it. How do you press the pieces together while sealing?
You are about to engage in building a 500 gallon. Did you build the 300 knowing you were going to use it as a sump for the 500?
I like how you designed the bottom so the sandbed is covered up, in case of scratching. Did you build the stand with a lip or put a tall trim on the tank?
I am looking into getting a 270 gallon and am curious if I would save any money buy building it. I bet the personal satisfaction of knowing you hand built your tank outweighs the cost. Congratulations, you've done an awesome job!
 

1911_guy

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Just read your thread on building a 200 gallon for $500. Wow, I'm impressed. I would love to embark on a project like that but will have to start small, maybe another 75 or smaller. The 270 I was looking at was over $2500 for just the tank and I wouldn't want to get it until I moved back to the states...too heavy and worried it may break during moving. Keep us all posted on this one and your 500 gallon project.
 

psusocr1

Active Member
1911_Guy Kudos on your DIY tank.
I have a few questions for you.
I know you are into building your own aquariums. I have read a little bit and bookmarked different threads for when I get more time. What made you go with acrylic? (pros/cons)
What thickness did you use and what thickness would have you used if you chose glass?
always remember with acrylic you must go alot thicker than glass!! this tank is almost inch acrylic, if it were glass a half inch glass im sure would have been fine, but iw ould have to do the calculations
You give a lot of credit to your skimmer for handling the bioload. What model do you use and why did you opt for the external model?my skimmer is a JEBO 520, id otn care what peopel say abotu JEBO this skimmer IS AMAZING! its rated for 520 gallons and this thing produces the ugliest, worst smelling thickest junk you can ever imagine and i love it! i like external because i feel they do a better job than internal skimmers, but thats just my opinion!
How do you get your pictures to turn out so clear? Seems to take my 45 photos to get ONE decent enough to tell it's a fishhonestly im nto a photographer but sometimes i just take my time, make sure the right settings are on and theyw ork out great, you can actually tell that in my pics i took some with a cheap digital camera and some with a 7.1 megapixel good camera(not a great camera) just a good one. i think its all abotu the setting you use and how good of a camera you have
I'm sure you drilled for water circulation to and from your sump. What size, how many and what placement did you make the holes? How much flow are you getting?well i have 1400 GPH drainign and 1400GPH returning to balance the system out. i actually have two powerheads int he tank that gibe me another 1700GPH water circulation, but i do have a cloose loop system ready to be installed, which i drilled the holes for myself
I'm curious as to how much was spent on materials for your aquarium, including sealant and equipment used to cut or shape it. How do you press the pieces together while sealing]theres alot of good threads ont his, but basically use weld-on # 4(water-like_ and ia lso use weld-on #16(thick) to get a nice beaded inside seem. Also for a tank this buig on my last one i made a mold that held my acrlyic in perfect shape and pushed outward in the plywood mold so that i can use the solvent very easily
You are about to engage in building a 500 gallon. Did you build the 300 knowing you were going to use it as a sump for the 500?i actually repaired the crack in my 205 gallon i built and that will be used for the sump/fuge on my 500 gallon tank, so everythignw orked out GREAT. ALSO my 500 gallon will be plywood with a glass front. it WILL be built for under $650 bucks. i did a cost breakdown somehwere ont his forum
I like how you designed the bottom so the sandbed is covered up, in case of scratching. Did you build the stand with a lip or put a tall trim on the tank?i actually built the stand with a frame around it knowing i would put a 3.5-4 inch sandbed in myt ank so thats how high i made the frame so that the sand is perfectly evan with the frame.some peopel may not like that look but i love it!
I am looking into getting a 270 gallon and am curious if I would save any money buy building it. I bet the personal satisfaction of knowing you hand built your tank outweighs the cost. Congratulations, you've done an awesome job! .
alot of peopel had said that to me"yes you buitl a 205 gallon for $500 bucks but its not worth the time etc." WELL i say to them how many people can say "their is my fishtank, and i also buitl the whole darn thing" so yes your def. right in saying that it is a tremendous feeling, as well as designing the tank to look however you want it along with your own custom dimensions based on the fish you will be keeping. also thanks for all the scompliments ia ppreciate it!!
 

psusocr1

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unleashed,good idea for the epoxy personally I have never been able to get that stuff to hold well for me ive tried many times.,my shark is a bit larger than yours but not by much 3-4 inches give or take.but my tank has many more corals and rocks to contend with.we are getting ready to pull out all the corals and make the 300 a fowlr.we only see my shark at feeding time thats when he does the most knocking things around.so we purchased a 150 shallow tank for our reef.but i still like your set up
well the epoxy i used on dry base rock when i put it int here, if the rock isnt dry the epoxy is JUNK., for everythign else i used very thin but strong acrylic rods and either used the exsiting holes in the rocks or drilled holes in the rocks and then slipped the rods into other holes in other rocks which holds them no matter what!( i hope you understand that explanation, because it was a bad one on my part)
and yes my shark i only see at feeding time and at night when hes "prawling" around like a security gaurd
i love your tank, it was part of my inspiration with my "agressive reef"
 

bellanavis

Active Member
You said about your rays sleeping on eachother, I had a ray, and it slept on top of my toad, when the toad was in a good enough mood to let it. Never tried to bit it or anything, just liked to be with it.
 

1911_guy

Member
PSU,
Thanks for answering my questions. Here's a few more...
In your "How to..." thread, what do you mean by tape the glass tightly? I see your pics and it looks like you just taped around the corners. What exactly do you do to ensure the tape is tight and what type of tape are you using?
I see how you built access holes in the tops of your tanks. Do you put an additional piece of glass or acrylic over those for evaporation? I've been wondering what kind of evaporation issues you might have. If that is not covered, how do you protect your lights and what about dust entering the aquarium?
According to your overflow/return rate plus your PH movement, you're only turning over 10 times your DT...really less if you count your sump volume. Oh yeah, you did say you were going to finish a closed loop system with holes you drilled. So what do you expect your turnover rate to be then?
Regarding your 500g project, is this going to be an in-wall tank? Just wondering what it would look like with 3 sides of plywood.
My wife and I both love your rays, any rays for that matter...I haven't done any research on them, my tank is way too small. I enjoy having LR and love how you set your island of LR to suit your shark and rays. Do they ever get hurt by swimming around it? I know you glued it together so they can't topple it over, just wondering if their is any safety issues.
Thanks again-Kevin
 

psusocr1

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grmreapr ah its good to see that my old tank got put to good use
im confused??
BellaNavis You said about your rays sleeping on eachother, I had a ray, and it slept on top of my toad, when the toad was in a good enough mood to let it. Never tried to bit it or anything, just liked to be with it.
yes my female will bury herslef deep in the sand and then mymale will follow burying himself right next to and overlapping her,, kinda crazy . ill make sur ei get a pic of htis soon!!
1911_Guy PSU,
Thanks for answering my questions. Here's a few more...
In your "How to..." thread, what do you mean by tape the glass tightly? I see your pics and it looks like you just taped around the corners. What exactly do you do to ensure the tape is tight and what type of tape are you using?you can use regular duct tape and tape WITH the glass , or in other words tape one side and pull tightly over to the other side and fasten it, it holds very well , as well as the molds i built
I see how you built access holes in the tops of your tanks. Do you put an additional piece of glass or acrylic over those for evaporation? I've been wondering what kind of evaporation issues you might have. If that is not covered, how do you protect your lights and what about dust entering the aquarium?i actually use eggcrate that is cut perfectly to fit over the openeing, but iw ont need them soon enough as my canopy will be ready to go ont he tanks oon! also i put 5 gallons of water in my tank every 2 days, thats my evaporation. i dont really think theres enough dust that would go in my aquarium to harm it. and also my lights protect themseleves with an acrlylic sheet going under them built into the fixture
According to your overflow/return rate plus your PH movement, you're only turning over 10 times your DT...really less if you count your sump volume. Oh yeah, you did say you were going to finish a closed loop system with holes you drilled. So what do you expect your turnover rate to be then?well, i turn over about 10 your right, but the corals i have right now get ALOT of water moveent belive me, plus i have a strong powerhead int he 55 gallon since it will be a reef tank soon(also my fuge) ALSO from the returns the water movement in my sump and fuge is great since the water comes down soo quickly. the close loop will add another 2000 GPH which i will most definantly have to throttle down a bit.
Regarding your 500g project, is this going to be an in-wall tank? Just wondering what it would look like with 3 sides of plywood.yes the plan for it is to be used inwall, but evan if it wasnt i dont use the two sides of my tank right now the way it is , so i feel they have no point anyway! i also tossed the idea around of putting two "viweing" windows in the side of the 500 galllon , but as stated i dont use then side for viewing so that got thrown out the door quickly, but it is an option for people.
My wife and I both love your rays, any rays for that matter...I haven't done any research on them, my tank is way too small. I enjoy having LR and love how you set your island of LR to suit your shark and rays. Do they ever get hurt by swimming around it? I know you glued it together so they can't topple it over, just wondering if their is any safety issues.no, no injuries ever..the good thing about my tank is its wide so it gives my rays ALOT of room for swimming the bottom especially and also the top portion of the tank. my rays love swimming freely in the middle of the tank and they also swim up and over all the rocks and corals so gracefully as to never touch any of them. my shark on the other hand doesnt do anything , he just lays around except for feeding and late at night when he patrols the tank. also int hat middle island of rock it is all hollow so most of my fish sleep in there as well as my shark since it covers his whole body easily when stretched out flat. all of my fish also dug that cave out and it goes down to the bottom basically in that middle cave, its very wild!
Thanks again-Kevinnever hesitte to ask questions, i always try to help when i can! and tnaks again for the compliments
 

1911_guy

Member
PSU, You probably already mentioned this, but...the sump to your 300g is a 55g? And you have a PH in the sump, can that be counted towards flow? I always assumed the flow rate used to determine how much your tank is turning over had to be the flow rate INSIDE the DT. If you can use the flow from PH's inside the sump I guess I'm turning over 12.5 times my total water volume. My overflow is rated at 600GPH but I'm sure it's getting that much.
Can you please post some pics with something to use as a size reference. Most of your fish are around 7", right? Everything looks a little small cause I don't have anything to compare it to. Maybe you can tape a dollar bill or something to the glass so we can get a better idea of what size everything is.
Thanks so much...your compliments are well deserved.
 

psusocr1

Active Member
1911_Guy PSU, You probably already mentioned this, but...the sump to your 300g is a 55g? And you have a PH in the sump, can that be counted towards flow? I always assumed the flow rate used to determine how much your tank is turning over had to be the flow rate INSIDE the DT. If you can use the flow from PH's inside the sump I guess I'm turning over 12.5 times my total water volume. My overflow is rated at 600GPH but I'm sure it's getting that much.
id ont think it is counted toward sit but im not sure.. ALSO i have a 55 gallon refugium and then another 45 gallon sump. for a total of 405 gallons. i have a powerhead in the fuge not the sump
Can you please post some pics with something to use as a size reference. Most of your fish are around 7", right? Everything looks a little small cause I don't have anything to compare it to. Maybe you can tape a dollar bill or something to the glass so we can get a better idea of what size everything is.
thats a great idea, i never really thought of that but i will do that tonight for you.. im not sure if they will pose by it but ill get them to try!!
 

1911_guy

Member
ALSO i have a 55 gallon refugium and then another 45 gallon sump. for a total of 405 gallons. i have a powerhead in the fuge not the sump
Ohhh, I see...I musta missed that. I am getting ready to incorporate a fuge inside my sump. Just have to get the light and some macroalgae.
thats a great idea, i never really thought of that but i will do that tonight for you.. im not sure if they will pose by it but ill get them to try!!
That would be awesome! Thanks
 
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