New Strains of Ich - Beware

locoyo386

locoyo386

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3059329
But isn't the appearance of Ich on a fish and the subsequent all but disappearance of it then return all in a rather short period of time a sure indication of Ich?
Well I do believe that is the question that is hard to know with 100% certainty. My assumption is that if I see white spots on a fish that look like salt, it must be Ich. I guess I could try to map out all the spots and keep a time line to see if it matches the life cycle of Ich.
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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So, what consensus has been achieved? I'm guessing my secret ****** cure of Draino hasn't caught on, has it? But if you use it, don't tell anyone else-it's secret.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3059931
So, what consensus has been achieved? I'm guessing my secret ****** cure of Draino hasn't caught on, has it? But if you use it, don't tell anyone else-it's secret.

I never got an answer to my p.m.
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renogaw

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the reason s/he's probably hesitant to discuss it in an open forum is probably due to it being a prescription drug being used for another reason. i know there's something out there like this that is technically illegal (using a dog med or something like that), so that's probably why the pm was requested.
 
renogaw

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Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3058283
I have a little known way to treat ich that doesn't involve medications or hypo....you don't even need a QT.
yes, but leaving the fish out in the open air until it dries out sorta kills the fish.
lets not forget the transfer method, although you sorta need a qt or two or three for that...
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3060540
the reason s/he's probably hesitant to discuss it in an open forum is probably due to it being a prescription drug being used for another reason. i know there's something out there like this that is technically illegal (using a dog med or something like that), so that's probably why the pm was requested.
right but he said to PM him and then he doesn't answer anyone but locoyo.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3060540
the reason s/he's probably hesitant to discuss it in an open forum is probably due to it being a prescription drug being used for another reason. i know there's something out there like this that is technically illegal (using a dog med or something like that), so that's probably why the pm was requested.
Ok my old friend now I am really confused as I am sure you know from our numerous discussions is not a state, which is new to me. If its a prescription drug he can not talk about it? Why ? And I understand the miss use of drugs being a problem but at least the dynamics of the life cycle of this new ick and how this medication interrupts that life cycle is not something that cannot be explained in an open forum
 
cranberry

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It's still not illegal to talk about prescription drugs. On another site, all the drugs we were experimenting with, and some that we still use, are not intended for fish.
Everyone is out there talking about interceptor and red bugs.... so what would the problem be?
But let's forget about the OP, he clearly doesn't have anything to add to this conversation.
 
locoyo386

locoyo386

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3061505
But let's forget about the OP, he clearly doesn't have anything to add to this conversation.
Hi is not the only one, o well that's how it rolles in this forum most of the time, now-a-days anyways. As far as the fish I had in hypo did not make it. I am not sure if it was Ich to begin with so I was not able to draw any conclusive information (thanks to Joe, but seriously good point though).
 
florida joe

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Originally Posted by locoyo386
http:///forum/post/3061562
Hi is not the only one, o well that's how it rolles in this forum most of the time, now-a-days anyways. As far as the fish I had in hypo did not make it. I am not sure if it was Ich to begin with so I was not able to draw any conclusive information (thanks to Joe, but seriously good point though).
I hope you are not talking about mewozer every post of hers is chock full of pertinent info
 
spanko

spanko

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Originally Posted by locoyo386
http:///forum/post/3059711
Well I do believe that is the question that is hard to know with 100% certainty. My assumption is that if I see white spots on a fish that look like salt, it must be Ich. I guess I could try to map out all the spots and keep a time line to see if it matches the life cycle of Ich.
Sure unless you have the education and equipment and I guess the desire to remove some of the parasites for examination. But most in the hobby do not so for the "standard" identification you see the spots, see the indication, you take the necessary steps.
Let me ask this, is there any real detriment to doing hypo on a fish that you think has ich, even if it isn't? And really is ich misidentified enough to even hesitate to do hypo if you think the fish has it?
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Let me ask this, is there any real detriment to doing hypo on a fish that you think has ich, even if it isn't?
Henry the only detriment I can see is if a beginning hobbyist falsely identifies his fish with Ick. He or she then starts hypo. The hypo is not effective against the parasite and the new hobbyist then is under the impression that Hypo does not work.
 
spanko

spanko

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3062466
Henry the only detriment I can see is if a beginning hobbyist falsely identifies his fish with Ick. He or she then starts hypo. The hypo is not effective against the parasite and the new hobbyist then is under the impression that Hypo does not work.
Yup gottcha. What other parasites are there that would resemble in their appearance disappearance basic salted fish look on the fish, Ich?
 
deejeff442

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the begining of lympho looks the same.
although it will go away on its own if the water and fish are good.
i have my fish in copper now for ich but my new tusk had lympho at the same time .at first it looked just like ich but after a week it started to make clumps.
odd to have both at the same time.
 
spanko

spanko

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Originally Posted by deejeff442
http:///forum/post/3062471
the begining of lympho looks the same.
although it will go away on its own if the water and fish are good.
i have my fish in copper now for ich but my new tusk had lympho at the same time .at first it looked just like ich but after a week it started to make clumps.
odd to have both at the same time.
Okay so if that is true will a hypo treatment cure lymphocytis?
 
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