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[greenwolf52]

Originally Posted by jason490
No worries there sharky,
The tank is less than probably two weeks old and fully cycled. Water params are perfect, algae spots on the glass already, etc. Yes I told you I had a way to "super cycle" it as you called it. I tried posting my way to help others, but low and behold nobody wants to hear that it goes against the grain and strokes their fur backwards.
All fish are doing great, turned the light out last night and everything did fine.
For everyone that takes offense to what I say, oh well. I am not trying to be a thorn in anyone's side, but you are gonna have to realize that some of these things you guys post in these forums are utterly rediculous. There is being on the safe side and then there is nonsense.
On the other hand, the fish and inverts I received from SWF.com were of super quality. Now my UV Sterilizer I received was broken when it came in, glass sloshing around inside. So I will be sending that back if they ever respond to my email. Anyone have a number to them?

Well...I didn't know any stories about anything cracshing and being started over before I read this thread, but now that I hear it from the source that your tank has been running for less than 2 weeks, I'm just gonna erase everything from memory that I read prior to that this post.
Hate to say it, but you are wrong. You might get lucky by having everything survive, but I doubt you've had an ammonia spike yet and when you do, it won't be pretty. You'll be doing this --->

Good luck...live and learn, right?

 

[greenwolf52]

just can't let this go...
i'm sorry jason, but i don't understand why you think it's ok come on here and ask for help and advice and then just ignore everything everyone tells you. quit wasting everyones time and maybe after you lose enough money and kill enough fish you'll decide that maybe you would like to actually learn something. then you'll be back and we'll all welcome you and help you again. hopefully that time you will get it right.

 

[sharkboy13]

Originally Posted by greenwolf52
just can't let this go...
i'm sorry jason, but i don't understand why you think it's ok come on here and ask for help and advice and then just ignore everything everyone tells you. quit wasting everyones time and maybe after you lose enough money and kill enough fish you'll decide that maybe you would like to actually learn something. then you'll be back and we'll all welcome you and help you again. hopefully that time you will get it right.
couldnt of said it any bettr.... plz do not waste our times, ur fish lives', and ur own money. im guessing u spent $80 or more on here since the minimum order is $79

 

[addicted2]

Originally Posted by jason490
Nemo, this is the best one I can get of him, he hides a lot. You can see the back of him here. My camera is a sony cybershot 6mp and it either sucks or I don't know how to use it
I see so many super clear pictures here on the board, wish I knew which camera they used. :notsure:
I use a Sony cybershot H2. 6mpx. If you look at my post about my 75 gal you'll see what kind of pictures it takes. I love it. takes a while to get it but my pics keep getting a little better each time. Don't give up. It's a nice camera. Just takes patience and practice. Your tank looks nice for what I could see.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by jason490
No worries there sharky,
The tank is less than probably two weeks old and fully cycled. Water params are perfect, algae spots on the glass already, etc. Yes I told you I had a way to "super cycle" it as you called it. I tried posting my way to help others, but low and behold nobody wants to hear that it goes against the grain and strokes their fur backwards.
All fish are doing great, turned the light out last night and everything did fine.
For everyone that takes offense to what I say, oh well. I am not trying to be a thorn in anyone's side, but you are gonna have to realize that some of these things you guys post in these forums are utterly rediculous. There is being on the safe side and then there is nonsense.....
Jason, by your own admission your way of "fast cycling" killed $400 worth of fish a couple of weeks ago. That's hardly a success story worthy of calling other poster's ways "rediculous".
Also, let's tone down the insults towards our younger posters. Many of them research their purchases, research their set ups, and have very successful tanks. They also tend to listen to advice.

 

[sharkboy13]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Also, let's tone down the insults towards our younger posters. Many of them research their purchases, research their set ups, and have very successful tanks. They also tend to listen to advice.
ty journey, ive been doing exstensive research upon the octopus ive been waiting to buy down at a lfs, ill admit i have the money and have been avoiding a impulse buy.

 

[nick76]

Ya know I know its hard to listen to advice when you 1st get here. You think your doing a good job until people start criticizing you. Had it happen but ya know what, I leaned from it and im glad everybody told me I was wrong cause now I have a very healthy Reef Tank. Some of the methods people use here are a bit extreme. Other things are really important to follow and are just basic saltwater practice everyone should do.
Just my $.02

 

[greenwolf52]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy13
ty journey, ive been doing exstensive research upon the octopus ive been waiting to buy down at a lfs, ill admit i have the money and have been avoiding a impulse buy.
dude...i thought you were getting out of this hobby.

 

[greenwolf52]

This Jason character and his "24 hour cycle". Come on, man. Why don't you just start sending me checks in the mail. I could use it more than those dying fish.

 

[sharkboy13]

Originally Posted by greenwolf52
dude...i thought you were getting out of this hobby.

was, the no1 wanted to buy my stuff so i gave up and decided i wanted an octo

kinda like that 1 other guy that tried to leave but stayed

 

[jason490]

Originally Posted by greenwolf52
This Jason character and his "24 hour cycle". Come on, man. Why don't you just start sending me checks in the mail. I could use it more than those dying fish.
Green,
Yea the 24 hour cycle was after the first fish loss. I found an excellent product, used it and 24 hours later just as advertised, it worked. I have seen the initial ammonia spike, what in the world do you think killed the first 400 bucks in fish?
I thank each and everyone of you that have given me advice, I am not out to make enemies, just stating the obvious.
There is just a general attitude on the board that people think everyone has 10 grand to spend on a fish tank and therefore if you don't have a 300 gallon at least then you are not a real hobbiest. Do I have that kind of money for a tank? Sure, but I don't wish to have one that large. All I am saying is let the people who want a damn yellow tang in a 55 have one. It won't hurt it a bit. Quit saying "oh those are gonna die, take it back to the LFS" They bought it, let them enjoy it.
Sharkboy, I admire you for doing research and knowing what you do on the subject. However, you just killed all your fish basically, so you murdered them. Don't give advice on what not to have and what to have in a tank. Furthermore, I think I read on here that you are spending your college money to fund your fish habit. BIG MISTAKE! When you are flipping hamburgers for a living at 30 years old, I sure hope you enjoy that tank if you can still afford to run it.

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by jason490
Sharkboy, I admire you for doing research and knowing what you do on the subject. However, you just killed all your fish basically, so you murdered them. Don't give advice on what not to have and what to have in a tank. Furthermore, I think I read on here that you are spending your college money to fund your fish habit. BIG MISTAKE! When you are flipping hamburgers for a living at 30 years old, I sure hope you enjoy that tank if you can still afford to run it.
Jason, perhaps you should wait until your second week of keeping saltwater fish before you consider yourself an expert.
Just a thought.

 

[greymach]

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
Jason, perhaps you should wait until your second week of keeping saltwater fish before you consider yourself an expert.
Just a thought.
BURN!!

 

[nick76]

Obviously The Person is question is not going to take anyone's advice and continue to bash anyone who tries to help him or make a point against his beliefs and this is just turning into a flame war so I think its time for everyone to let this go and lock this thread.
I have to say in the time ive been here, These comments by him are THE most rude things I have ever read on these boards. We do Not need this here.

 

[greymach]

i dont know i think im going to take his expert advise and get that yellow tang ive always wanted in my 55

 

[sharkboy13]

Originally Posted by jason490
Green,
Sharkboy, I admire you for doing research and knowing what you do on the subject. However, you just killed all your fish basically, so you murdered them. Don't give advice on what not to have and what to have in a tank. Furthermore, I think I read on here that you are spending your college money to fund your fish habit. BIG MISTAKE! When you are flipping hamburgers for a living at 30 years old, I sure hope you enjoy that tank if you can still afford to run it.
well a) when did i kill all my fish recently? b)i didnt murder them if it happened fairly naturally (cyano) c) i have a college fund and havent touched a cent in it, i make my own money for breeding herps, and otherwise.d) i can give w/e f****** opinion i want on keeping fish since most of it i research, w/e i dont i know off the top of my head. u cant keep 6 fish regardless in a 29 or w/e it was, u could maybe pull it off in a 75 or 90 depending upon species and filtration. i am sry mods for the vulgar language but i have had it w/ this guy, he came on here not knowing much of anything about swf and wondered y $400 worth of fish died, then two weeks l8r after explaining he needed to wait til it cycled (6 wks) he goes and buys a bunch of fish, and an anenome and some other cnidarians, and hes saying i cant give advice? ive been in the hobby for a flippin 9 mos and i know what generally can and cant be done...

 

[jason490]

Sharky,
Dude, I have no clue what that says, you need to spend less time in these forums and more time in spelling and english class.
Cya

 

[hot883]

Jason490. Seems like you are not off to a great start.
Let me please remind you that these forums are owned by swf.com and as the owners they do not appreciate anyone that has a bad attitude or talks down to people all the time.
This is your friendly warning. Please try to be nicer. Thanks, Barry

 

[sharkboy13]

Originally Posted by jason490
Sharky,
Dude, I have no clue what that says, you need to spend less time in these forums and more time in spelling and english class.
Cya

My English is fine, although when I type often enough I start to take less care upon what I type and just try to type fast and in internet lingo. If I were you I'd go to English class, you could learn things, and maybe, you'd be able to read that big scary wary paragraph.

 

[big swolt]

Sup guys and gals. Im kinda new to this site but I had to jump in and comment on this. I have a 75 reef tank thats been up for prob 4 months now. I cycled my tank with Stability and in a week it was cycled and ready to go. I have had no problems what so ever. I have prob 60-80 lbs of live rock, lots of corals, a couple fish, hermits, snails, lobster, arrow crab, 3 clams, starfish, ect and have had no fatalities. Now I am no expert by any means but for anyone who says its not possible to cycle a tank that quick and have everything live I have to say it is cause I did. And perhaps I got lucky...but people get lucky every day. I wish I had a dollar for every time Ive said "thats not possible" and been proved wrong, but it happens. Stability was recommended to me by several friends who had used it with the same results. Now I have read what people think about quick starting a tank and how everything will die but I must say I have read more about the trouble people have doing it the "right way". Im not trying to knock what anyone has to say in any way. I enjoy this site very much and most of the time I get very good info. But theres also alot of self-proclaimed experts as well. One thing I have learned is that it doesnt matter what anyone says or even what you do....every tank is different, every fish is different. What works for me might be a disaster for you.