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scubadoo
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Originally Posted by ruaround
what about the "NO Call" on the 4th down QB sneak... Pitt clearly had a false start...the spot of the ball should have been 10 yds back...
ALso the hit on Ben whne his arm was injured....I thought could have been called a fumble. It was close....close enough that if the fix was in those calls would have gone the opposite way.
NFL Network just reviewed the interception.....they scratched their head but beleive the interpretation had to be the football move was not complete unitl the knee was off the ground...we'll still have to wait.
what about the "NO Call" on the 4th down QB sneak... Pitt clearly had a false start...the spot of the ball should have been 10 yds back...
ALso the hit on Ben whne his arm was injured....I thought could have been called a fumble. It was close....close enough that if the fix was in those calls would have gone the opposite way.
NFL Network just reviewed the interception.....they scratched their head but beleive the interpretation had to be the football move was not complete unitl the knee was off the ground...we'll still have to wait.
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jcrim
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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
When did the whistle blow?
The whistle blew to stop the play before the snap. So it had to either be a false start or offsides making contact with the other player.
When did the whistle blow?
The whistle blew to stop the play before the snap. So it had to either be a false start or offsides making contact with the other player.
scubadoo
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Originally Posted by jcrim
You don't think the nfl has a financial interest in seeing certain matchups... why wouldn't they give a little help to those teams. Of course they can't ALL be in favor of one team but the majority of calls and close calls went in indy's favor.
They would be more inclined to favor the big market teams if I am to beleive your theory. What is gained financially? The networks have already paid their contract fees for the year. The game is a sell-out. The ONLY thing gained would be some dollars off of merchandising.
This would favor a team such as Dallas with a large fan base.
The checks have already been written to the NFL by the networks...what is gained financially?
You don't think the nfl has a financial interest in seeing certain matchups... why wouldn't they give a little help to those teams. Of course they can't ALL be in favor of one team but the majority of calls and close calls went in indy's favor.
They would be more inclined to favor the big market teams if I am to beleive your theory. What is gained financially? The networks have already paid their contract fees for the year. The game is a sell-out. The ONLY thing gained would be some dollars off of merchandising.
This would favor a team such as Dallas with a large fan base.
The checks have already been written to the NFL by the networks...what is gained financially?
scubadoo
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Originally Posted by jcrim
The whistle blew to stop the play before the snap. So it had to either be a false start or offsides making contact with the other player.
If contact was made and the whistle blew before......no penalty. When did it blow...did you hear it?
The officials on the side ran in quickly..
The whistle blew to stop the play before the snap. So it had to either be a false start or offsides making contact with the other player.
If contact was made and the whistle blew before......no penalty. When did it blow...did you hear it?
The officials on the side ran in quickly..
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jcrim
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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
If contact was made and the whistle blew before......no penalty. When did it blow...did you hear it?
The officials on the side ran in quickly..
It doesn't matter about the whistle... they stopped the play. It could only be offsides w/contact or false start.
If contact was made and the whistle blew before......no penalty. When did it blow...did you hear it?
The officials on the side ran in quickly..
It doesn't matter about the whistle... they stopped the play. It could only be offsides w/contact or false start.
scubadoo
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Originally Posted by ruaround
Solid jcrim... and thats why I have had it with NFL officials!!! too many missed calls or liquid interpretation of the rules... (by liquid I mean inconsistant...)
there is no such thing as a no call!!! either someone moved or the D encroached was in the neutral zone or they were offsides...
I beleive the nfl is still the only major sport without full-time officials? I could be wrong...I did not double-check.
Solid jcrim... and thats why I have had it with NFL officials!!! too many missed calls or liquid interpretation of the rules... (by liquid I mean inconsistant...)
there is no such thing as a no call!!! either someone moved or the D encroached was in the neutral zone or they were offsides...
I beleive the nfl is still the only major sport without full-time officials? I could be wrong...I did not double-check.
scubadoo
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Originally Posted by jcrim
It doesn't matter about the whistle... they stopped the play. It could only be offsides w/contact or false start.
Wrong...once the whistle blows the play is dead at that point...if it happend BEFORE any contact . I actually beleive the correct call would have been a neutral zone infraction..as they caused the offense to move....this is why I beleive the line judge blew his whistle early...with no call to make.
It doesn't matter about the whistle... they stopped the play. It could only be offsides w/contact or false start.
Wrong...once the whistle blows the play is dead at that point...if it happend BEFORE any contact . I actually beleive the correct call would have been a neutral zone infraction..as they caused the offense to move....this is why I beleive the line judge blew his whistle early...with no call to make.
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jcrim
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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Wrong...once the whistle blows the play is dead at that point...if it happend BEFORE any contact . I actually beleive the correct call would have been a neutral zone infraction..as they caused the offense to move....this is why I beleive the line judge blew his whistle early...with no call to make.
I don't think my last post was clear... the play wasn't stopped until after the contact.
Wrong...once the whistle blows the play is dead at that point...if it happend BEFORE any contact . I actually beleive the correct call would have been a neutral zone infraction..as they caused the offense to move....this is why I beleive the line judge blew his whistle early...with no call to make.
I don't think my last post was clear... the play wasn't stopped until after the contact.
scubadoo
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If the whistle blew while Indy was in the neutral zone, before Pit moved and before contact was made there is NO penalty. I have no idea if this is the case...but it would explain why no penalty was called.
To state that it was incorrect with certainty would be wrong...unless you either have clarification of the call and/or heard the whistle clearly AFTER the contact or after Pitt moved with players in the neutral zone.
I could be wrong...but simply providing a possible explanation i.e. inadvertent whistle.
To state that it was incorrect with certainty would be wrong...unless you either have clarification of the call and/or heard the whistle clearly AFTER the contact or after Pitt moved with players in the neutral zone.
I could be wrong...but simply providing a possible explanation i.e. inadvertent whistle.
dvst8r
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Originally Posted by ruaround
Scuba ... I started another thread on this very thing you should debate this there
... he made a "Football Move" which is defined as, but not limited too... two steps, two feet down, a knee touching the ground, an elbow touching the ground, stretching for a first down, stretching for a touchdown, running out of bounds, being assisted out of bounds after a reception is made and not touching your feet down in the feild of play, a juke, a fake, being tackled...etc. etc. etc...
he clearly made the inteception, rolled over and knocked the ball out with his knee... After his "Football Move" he then recovered his own fumble...plain and simple Pitt ball...the refs need to pull their heads out and ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE...as I said...go to the "Too Much Gray Area" Thread and discuss/debate this there...I would love to hear/read more of your opinion/facts on this matter!!!
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
Scuba ... I started another thread on this very thing you should debate this there
... he made a "Football Move" which is defined as, but not limited too... two steps, two feet down, a knee touching the ground, an elbow touching the ground, stretching for a first down, stretching for a touchdown, running out of bounds, being assisted out of bounds after a reception is made and not touching your feet down in the feild of play, a juke, a fake, being tackled...etc. etc. etc...
he clearly made the inteception, rolled over and knocked the ball out with his knee... After his "Football Move" he then recovered his own fumble...plain and simple Pitt ball...the refs need to pull their heads out and ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE...as I said...go to the "Too Much Gray Area" Thread and discuss/debate this there...I would love to hear/read more of your opinion/facts on this matter!!!
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
ruaround
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Originally Posted by DVST8R
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
i dont understand this statement... are you flaming me or agreeing with me??? I can handle either , just want some clarification...
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
i dont understand this statement... are you flaming me or agreeing with me??? I can handle either , just want some clarification...
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jcrim
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Originally Posted by DVST8R
thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
I'll rent out my house for the week... only $10,000
thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
I'll rent out my house for the week... only $10,000
ruaround
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Originally Posted by jcrim
I'll rent out my house for the week... only $10,000
thats funny jcrim...when the Superbowl was in Jaksonville a couple years ago, people were auctioning off their house (to rent) on that famous auction site because of the lack of hotel space... :hilarious
I'll rent out my house for the week... only $10,000
thats funny jcrim...when the Superbowl was in Jaksonville a couple years ago, people were auctioning off their house (to rent) on that famous auction site because of the lack of hotel space... :hilarious
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jcrim
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Originally Posted by ruaround
thats funny jcrim...when the Superbowl was in Jaksonville a couple years ago, people were auctioning off their house on that famous auction site because of the lack of hotel space... :hilarious
Trust me, my house is nicer than anything in the city... and you won't get killed going to the atm.
thats funny jcrim...when the Superbowl was in Jaksonville a couple years ago, people were auctioning off their house on that famous auction site because of the lack of hotel space... :hilarious
Trust me, my house is nicer than anything in the city... and you won't get killed going to the atm.
scubadoo
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Originally Posted by DVST8R
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
DOn't pack your bags yet...the blitz worked wonders against a pocket passer but Jake Plummer is just as effective rolling out and throwing on the run. This COULD neutralize the blitz and actually lead to big plays for Denver. This assumes Cowher and his spitting lantern chin will employ a blitz package against Plummer.
Weather could be a factor neutralzing this advatage Plummer may have against the blitz.
Probably a close game with Denver winning but not covering the 3.5 point spread. A field goal game........Denver wins.
You'll also need a ticket for the game...besides the room.
that has got to be the most imtelligentthing ive seen you say on any of the playoff boards the refs DEFINTELY WANTED indy to wim that was an interception and that was pass interfence in the beginning of the game and what the hech was that no call when indy was standing in the pitt backfield????????? thats alright its the steelers against the world and the steelers win already got my hotel booked in detroit
GO STEELERS
DOn't pack your bags yet...the blitz worked wonders against a pocket passer but Jake Plummer is just as effective rolling out and throwing on the run. This COULD neutralize the blitz and actually lead to big plays for Denver. This assumes Cowher and his spitting lantern chin will employ a blitz package against Plummer.
Weather could be a factor neutralzing this advatage Plummer may have against the blitz.
Probably a close game with Denver winning but not covering the 3.5 point spread. A field goal game........Denver wins.
You'll also need a ticket for the game...besides the room.
scubadoo
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WOW..Carolina gets 5.5 points. Close game...again..could be field gaol even with Foster out with a broken ankle. I will take the 5.5 points though.
Better overall talent and coaching wins in the end.....even with Foster out. I somehow have yet to jump on the Hasslebeck band wagon. I see hin throwing a key interception. or two.
Carolina wins.....even without the points.
Weather.....probably rain.....
Perhaps those guys over at SI knew something when thay selected Carolina as the SB chanps in the preseason?
If it would be a Pitt/Carolina matchup...when is the last time two wildcard teams won all their playoff games on the road plus advanced to the Superbowl to represent each concference in the same year/SB? I gotta beleive that would be a first!
Better overall talent and coaching wins in the end.....even with Foster out. I somehow have yet to jump on the Hasslebeck band wagon. I see hin throwing a key interception. or two.
Carolina wins.....even without the points.
Weather.....probably rain.....
Perhaps those guys over at SI knew something when thay selected Carolina as the SB chanps in the preseason?
If it would be a Pitt/Carolina matchup...when is the last time two wildcard teams won all their playoff games on the road plus advanced to the Superbowl to represent each concference in the same year/SB? I gotta beleive that would be a first!