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armywife1314

armywife1314

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Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2586794
Odd your name says armywife their are no army bases they are POSTS and anyone in the army knows that they dislike it being Called a base... Your making me think your not whom you say you are. Whats your husbands
m o s? and who is he with presently ?
We have no ARMY posts being bombed in the USA. You said them over there so that would mean you are stationed in the US.
I can assure you i know I am on POST and live eat and breath the Military life. Tell me what I do not know and better yet tell me what my wife does not know ?? She runs the behavior dept for the army and everyone of them coming thru the warrior units to the people hurting them self to the ones to everything imaginable go thru her... Tell me again what we do not know.
I will say this again DO NOT CALL A ARMY POST A BASE and expect anyone to believe you.

i really dont feel safe giving out that info to tell you the truth. i call the post a base because a lot of people when i say "on post" (civilians) they just say dont you mean a base. it saves time and typing just say base. not to mention i was in the navy so im kinda used to one way. and let me say that im also not allowed, for security to post things like exactly what i know or have heard first hand accounts of.
 
armywife1314

armywife1314

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2588453
Someone got an avatar.
Hey, navy gurl. Did you happen to visit this link.http://iraqiwarvideos.magnify.net/it...#theater_title
I think you'd like it.

We may not agree on being at war with Iraq, but I wanted to say thank you for your and your husbands service to me and my country.

Let him know I appreciate his sacrifices. (and yours, too)

i watched it. nice.
dont worry i agree with our initial fireworks display we put on for their country
but just the continuation is way to drawn out now. as that video showed doing things that we could maybe help them with but not do. by hiring them etc. but everyone has their opinion. i respect that, although i think a lot of the opinions are formed by actual events that have happened to them or their friends/family. ie. my husband trained for his mos (6 months worth of training) but his mos is full and they are going to put him at something completely different. hes great at his job too, he loves it and that sux. but you do what your told.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588484
i watched it. nice.
dont worry i agree with our initial fireworks display we put on for their country
but just the continuation is way to drawn out now. as that video showed doing things that we could maybe help them with but not do. by hiring them etc. but everyone has their opinion. ..
We are hiring them. A lot of them in fact. Of course, this comes with difficulties too. Construction, for instance, had different standards under Saddam than it has under us. We hire them, they do a job, then we re-do the job.
 
armywife1314

armywife1314

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2588491
We are hiring them. A lot of them in fact. Of course, this comes with difficulties too. Construction, for instance, had different standards under Saddam than it has under us. We hire them, they do a job, then we re-do the job.

ya i know. for instance my husbands unit trained some iraqi police and 2 months later they all walked out and said were not doing it anymore. i know were helping (like trying to train them) construction, policing etc. but at what point do you start to let go and say if you want to try, then try. i know your going to say some do and want us there. i know that too and i know they're scared because the terrorists threaten them and their family. but what can you do? we cant stay forever, its such a big strain on the troops and our economy. i care about the iraqi people and i want them to have a better life but we should start to let them decide if they're going to sink or swim.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588497
ya i know. for instance my husbands unit trained some iraqi police and 2 months later they all walked out and said were not doing it anymore. i know were helping (like trying to train them) construction, policing etc. but at what point do you start to let go and say if you want to try, then try. i know your going to say some do and want us there. i know that too and i know they're scared because the terrorists threaten them and their family. but what can you do? we cant stay forever, its such a big strain on the troops and our economy. i care about the iraqi people and i want them to have a better life but we should start to let them decide if they're going to sink or swim.
Well, honestly I say we stay as long as it takes.
Is it a strain on our military? Yes. Is it as big of a strain on our military, however, than if we had 200,000 troops deployed in Afghanistan hiking the hills and mountains on foot looking for Al Qaeda? From a logistical standpont, it doesn't get much better in the Middle East than Iraq. We've got allies to the North and South, open ports to the south, and a lot of flat terrain for our armor and vehicles. We've got access to Naval and Air Support.
Now, we're stuck in a war with terrorists. That's not gonna change. We're also in a proxy war with Iran. That's not going to change either. The best thing we can do is decide where to fight the war and keep going.
Is the war a strain on our economy? Yes. Don't forget, though, how dramatic a strain 9-11 was on our economy. In less than 2 hours terrorists shut down every airport in the Nation for several days....
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588497
strain on the troops and our economy.
Historically speaking the economy has improved during times of war. I know I'm better off financially than I ever have been. I just hope God doesn't see this post and decide to humble me.
 
fats71

fats71

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588359
i really dont feel safe giving out that info to tell you the truth. i call the post a base because a lot of people when i say "on post" (civilians) they just say dont you mean a base. it saves time and typing just say base. not to mention i was in the navy so im kinda used to one way. and let me say that im also not allowed, for security to post things like exactly what i know or have heard first hand accounts of.
You do not feel safe to state which post your at >??? FFS if you do not feel on a army post what do you do when your off post ???
As for explaining it who would ask as if your on post who would not know ?
I can tell ya I live right here at FT lost in the woods Missouri not like anyone knows which house to hit up to find me and if they did it is not like their is not 50k people here ready to back me up lol...
Anyway, I am still skeptical about you being a army wife. Their is plenty of Intel that is unclassified and as you no longer hold a position your fully capable of discussing it.
(CLASSIFIED)‏
From: name/rank is here removed it (my name removed@US.ARMY.MIL)
Sent: Fri 4/25/08 1:58 PM
To: (CLASSIFIED)
Classification: CLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
This is what we get when we are not allowed to speak about something and I'm sure your not getting any of those ATM as your clearance probably does not allow you to receive classified Intel where as for this home we certainly get it :)
This is what yours would look like
name (UNCLASSIFIED)‏
From: name rankl(name@US.ARMY.MIL)
Sent: Fri 4/25/08 1:58 PM
To: someone@aol.com
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Please do not act like your top clearance mil as it is amusing.
One more thing your supporting Obama. I tell ya what I will do. I will pay you 1 thousand dollars if you paint I love Obama and Hillary on your vehicle and drive it thru post from every gate to gate n,s,e,w gates and if you do not end up with a crud pile of flack over it the money s yours. I want it video taped however and ill send my 1k to Kim who works for swf.com as escrow.
I can not see that anyone would be able to do this. I saw a guy talking today at wal-Mart when I went in for more water and he said he liked Obama and about 7 people started going off. I walked away as I need no trouble and I dunno what happened but it was looking real bad for the Obama lover...
I am still awaiting to hear off any of our posts HAVING IEDS ON THEM !!!!
 
armywife1314

armywife1314

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2588501
Well, honestly I say we stay as long as it takes.
Is it a strain on our military? Yes. Is it as big of a strain on our military, however, than if we had 200,000 troops deployed in Afghanistan hiking the hills and mountains on foot looking for Al Qaeda? From a logistical standpont, it doesn't get much better in the Middle East than Iraq. We've got allies to the North and South, open ports to the south, and a lot of flat terrain for our armor and vehicles. We've got access to Naval and Air Support.
Now, we're stuck in a war with terrorists. That's not gonna change. We're also in a proxy war with Iran. That's not going to change either. The best thing we can do is decide where to fight the war and keep going.
Is the war a strain on our economy? Yes. Don't forget, though, how dramatic a strain 9-11 was on our economy. In less than 2 hours terrorists shut down every airport in the Nation for several days....

in that case we should just buy a country or island and say hey were here all terrorists come and get some, theres always going to be a terrorist somewhere. when were done with iraq, iran, and afghanistan we'll just move to the next place and then so on. i agree we should get stuff done and there are rules of engagement and all but the point is, bush actually took a step in the right direction when he reduced tours to 12 months and i hope he continues while hes in office to think of the soldiers as individuals and not only as a group. thats my problem with it all. we need to think of the war and the individuals fighting in it.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588507
in that case we should just buy a country or island and say hey were here all terrorists come and get some, theres always going to be a terrorist somewhere. when were done with iraq, iran, and afghanistan we'll just move to the next place and then so on. i agree we should get stuff done and there are rules of engagement and all but the point is, bush actually took a step in the right direction when he reduced tours to 12 months and i hope he continues while hes in office to think of the soldiers as individuals and not only as a group. thats my problem with it all. we need to think of the war and the individuals fighting in it.
Hehe, I would argue that Island is Iraq.
Terrorists wouldn't attack our military on an Island. They will ,however, continue to try to prevent Democracy in the heart of the ME.
I totally agree with treating the soldiers better. Many of us would willingly pay higher taxes if their pay would directly reflect it. Many of us around here are also for increasing the size of the military back to Cold War levels.
 
armywife1314

armywife1314

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2588510
Hehe, I would argue that Island is Iraq.
Terrorists wouldn't attack our military on an Island. They will ,however, continue to try to prevent Democracy in the heart of the ME.
I totally agree with treating the soldiers better. Many of us would willingly pay higher taxes if their pay would directly reflect it. Many of us around here are also for increasing the size of the military back to Cold War levels.
i know they wouldnt attack on an island (i wish). americans are too strong and the funny thing is when 9-11 happened they hoped it would make us cave in, instead we as americans got pissed and lit up there world
the thing that also drives me crazy is that the airforce was chaptering people out for stupid reasons because they're overstocked basically and turning people away. but the army (for example) can get enough to sign up or stay in.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2588515
i know they wouldnt attack on an island (i wish). americans are too strong and the funny thing is when 9-11 happened they hoped it would make us cave in, instead we as americans got pissed and lit up there world
the thing that also drives me crazy is that the airforce was chaptering people out for stupid reasons because they're overstocked basically and turning people away. but the army (for example) can get enough to sign up or stay in.
Well the airforce has cooler airplanes.
 
nwdyr

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To "give" money to a guy or women running for office , is like giving a junkie a fix!! If you have to "buy" the office well ...... come on, wake up I love this country and would fight to my death to defend it, but only if our freedom was in danger,not to settle a personal fight for our pres. Bottom line our gov. sucks, and so does Obama. "Change" ???? P-L-EEEEE-Z-E !!! WITH ALL THOSE MILLIONS THAT'S THE" MOTTO "THEY COME UP WITH? how old are the people falling for that? I am 45 and guess what....umm.... that BS phrase has been used for like... EVER!!!!!!!! His wife is racist, do your homework, listen to her speeches, I mean really listen.. she sounds like the rev. and Farrakhan rolled into a women and helooooooow that's his wife....duh. Can not believe we are sooooo hell bend on a black pres. that we are too lazy to really look past his BS. He is a great speaker and great politician, two good reasons he need not be the pres!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
nwdyr

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PS....thanks for making this a forum that I hate....I used to come here to get away from the trash of life and now you have brought it here...... thanks again
 
gonefishcrazy

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Originally Posted by nwdyr
http:///forum/post/2588674
PS....thanks for making this a forum that I hate....I used to come here to get away from the trash of life and now you have brought it here...... thanks again

Now did that make you feel better? In hale, ex hale.
How I know if you are a racist or not.
If Obama wife was racist, she would not be with him because he is half white. She would want a pure chocolate black man
. There will never be a perfect president being that we all make mistakes. Im not perfect, close though
. All of the candidates have made mistakes, so it amazes me how people on here TRY to make this man to be something he's not. I don't see pageS of things Hillary have flawed on, I don't see pages of things McCain have done wrong here. I had a discussion the other day about McCain voting no on the Martin Luther King Holiday and they all felt he was racists, being his age and the fact he lived through segregation. Then there's this:
When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his ----abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified.
“As a minister of God, you got on the stand and you lied,” Dwyer told Procanick, the 54-year-old former pastor of Resurrection Assembly of God church on Kirkland Avenue.
If you ran for president, Im sure it will be alot worse.
It is time for Change. OBAMA 2008
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by nwdyr
http:///forum/post/2588674
PS....thanks for making this a forum that I hate....I used to come here to get away from the trash of life and now you have brought it here...... thanks again


There is a little X in the top right hand corner of your browser. This will solve the problem...........
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2588725
“As a minister of God, you got on the stand and you lied,” Dwyer told Procanick, the 54-year-old former pastor of Resurrection Assembly of God church on Kirkland Avenue.
If you ran for president, Im sure it will be alot worse.
It is time for Change. OBAMA 2008

The big difference is, that Clinton's pastor, hasn't gone on the record saying hateful things about this great country. Clinton and her lack of ethics, is another serious problem and I'd never vote for her because of it.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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This election is not about the pastors... nor is it about prior military service... or about gay marriage... Lets concentrate on this issues, and not be mislead as we have been in the past.
The Gas Tax is an issue that has come up that Clinton and McCain are backing... I applaud Obama for not falling into this political mind game that these two candidates are playing... This will not ease the costs we see at the pump... Over 3 months it will only save you an estimated $28-$30. Not much is it...
Additionally it is likely it will cause prices to increase because it will increase the demand of oil... this does not address the need for improved infrastructure because it takes $10 billion in funding from those projects... which will cause job losses for construction workers.
The cost savings will also be passed along to oil companies instead of consumers because basically they will be making more money and will see more of that $.18 than we will at the pump in their bank accounts. The leading economists are saying the proposal is a bad idea , which shows that Obama is more in touch with americans than any other candidate, and it shows that his judgement is better than the other two, and that he is not looking for short term political solutions that in the long run hurt us more than it helps.
Lets be real people and look at what is really going on and who has our best interests in mind.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2588752
The big difference is, that Clinton's pastor, hasn't gone on the record saying hateful things about this great country. Clinton and her lack of ethics, is another serious problem and I'd never vote for her because of it.
What is more of a serious problem... A persons personal behavior (ethics) or a words said by someone else who is not part of the candidacy?
I think there is a clear difference... if you want to judge someone...
You also have to question McCain's ethics... he is guilty of breaking a political policy he created. He is basically cheating when it comes to the financing of his campaign.
 
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