1journeyman
Active Member
Again I ask: did you buy water while you were at the pet store to do the water changes you desperately need to do???
Omg!!
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fishieness
Active Member
no
please at least try to sell the fish if your LFS doesnt take them back.
and if you LFS cant tell the difference between a stripped damsel and a clown tang, it might be in your best interest to find a new LFS. Or at least make sure that you reserch.
please at least try to sell the fish if your LFS doesnt take them back.
and if you LFS cant tell the difference between a stripped damsel and a clown tang, it might be in your best interest to find a new LFS. Or at least make sure that you reserch.
monalisa
Active Member
Originally Posted by shista
aldo would i produde eny waste if i rub that algae off the glass??nitrates>
No. I scrub that stuff off my glass all the time.
Shista, I've been reading some of your posts, and I just think that maybe, MAYBE, you should do a bit of research on this hobby to see if it really is right for you. I'm sorry, but you have so many problems, and I'm not sure how long you've been doing this. Did you cycle your tank correctly and for an appropriate amount of time. Are you testing your water for salinity, ammonia, nitritites, nitrates, ph, etc.?
The posts that I've encountered have been posts of trouble, mainly due to not knowing what is appropriate for your system.
Please, don't take this wrong. But the people on this board (myself included) have very little tolerance for trying to maintain impossible systems and mostly for putting critters into impossible situations. Just tell me that you research, read, study, and learn before you put anything else into that tank. Also, research, read, study and learn how to get rid of the ich. More than likely this, too, will take a certain amount of time, but in the end it will be worth it.
SWF rule #1: Patience
SWF rule #2: Willingness to learn
NOTE: These first 2 rules are interchangeable
Many more rules, but you'll have to encounter those as you go along.
Best of luck. Lisa :happyfish
aldo would i produde eny waste if i rub that algae off the glass??nitrates>
No. I scrub that stuff off my glass all the time.
Shista, I've been reading some of your posts, and I just think that maybe, MAYBE, you should do a bit of research on this hobby to see if it really is right for you. I'm sorry, but you have so many problems, and I'm not sure how long you've been doing this. Did you cycle your tank correctly and for an appropriate amount of time. Are you testing your water for salinity, ammonia, nitritites, nitrates, ph, etc.?
The posts that I've encountered have been posts of trouble, mainly due to not knowing what is appropriate for your system.
Please, don't take this wrong. But the people on this board (myself included) have very little tolerance for trying to maintain impossible systems and mostly for putting critters into impossible situations. Just tell me that you research, read, study, and learn before you put anything else into that tank. Also, research, read, study and learn how to get rid of the ich. More than likely this, too, will take a certain amount of time, but in the end it will be worth it.
SWF rule #1: Patience
SWF rule #2: Willingness to learn
NOTE: These first 2 rules are interchangeable
Many more rules, but you'll have to encounter those as you go along.
Best of luck. Lisa :happyfish
yimmy
Active Member
I think you guys should lighten up a bit hes only 13 and there are 40 year olds out ther that buy on impulse ..I'm 14 and am gettin my first tank in 2 weeks. I think that a UV sterilizer could help you out, I have heard of people putting one onto a tank with ich and the ich is gone within 3 hours. I also looked and your clown tang is going to get massive. I would reccomend taking 2 of your tangs to a different store and don't ask for credit or anything but just a home for them. You need to slow down. I still haven't gotten my tank but learned that patience is the key to sucess. Your clown tang reminds me of a Sohol tang which need to be in a tank of at least 150g.
Good Luck and try to resist on buying any more fishes. If you have some cash to spair get a cleaner shrimp and if you have a lot invest in a UV sterilizer but it has been contradicted on reef tanks.
Hope your tank turns out well.
Jimmy
Good Luck and try to resist on buying any more fishes. If you have some cash to spair get a cleaner shrimp and if you have a lot invest in a UV sterilizer but it has been contradicted on reef tanks.
Hope your tank turns out well.
Jimmy
fishieness
Active Member
Originally Posted by Yimmy
I think you guys should lighten up a bit hes only 13 and there are 40 year olds out ther that buy on impulse ..I'm 14 and am gettin my first tank in 2 weeks. I think that a UV sterilizer could help you out, I have heard of people putting one onto a tank with ich and the ich is gone within 3 hours. I also looked and your clown tang is going to get massive. I would reccomend taking 2 of your tangs to a different store and don't ask for credit or anything but just a home for them. You need to slow down. I still haven't gotten my tank but learned that patience is the key to sucess. Your clown tang reminds me of a Sohol tang which need to be in a tank of at least 150g.
Good Luck and try to resist on buying any more fishes. If you have some cash to spair get a cleaner shrimp and if you have a lot invest in a UV sterilizer but it has been contradicted on reef tanks.
Hope your tank turns out well.
Jimmy
a UV steralizer will not get rid of Ick in 3 hours. it jsut doesnt work that way. However, it will eventualy get it out of your system. Although it also gets many benificial things out of your system. The thing is about if your JUST treat isk, your fish got it in the first place because it was stressed. The tang may overcome it now that he isnt in a LFS, although i doubt it because of the size of the tank.
and i said people were being hard the first thread. and the second. And the third. Im not saying that this hobby isnt necessarily out for shista, im just saying he needs to change a lot of his habits and such like everyone else is. Not necessarily a quit, but a reform.
I think you guys should lighten up a bit hes only 13 and there are 40 year olds out ther that buy on impulse ..I'm 14 and am gettin my first tank in 2 weeks. I think that a UV sterilizer could help you out, I have heard of people putting one onto a tank with ich and the ich is gone within 3 hours. I also looked and your clown tang is going to get massive. I would reccomend taking 2 of your tangs to a different store and don't ask for credit or anything but just a home for them. You need to slow down. I still haven't gotten my tank but learned that patience is the key to sucess. Your clown tang reminds me of a Sohol tang which need to be in a tank of at least 150g.
Good Luck and try to resist on buying any more fishes. If you have some cash to spair get a cleaner shrimp and if you have a lot invest in a UV sterilizer but it has been contradicted on reef tanks.
Hope your tank turns out well.
Jimmy
a UV steralizer will not get rid of Ick in 3 hours. it jsut doesnt work that way. However, it will eventualy get it out of your system. Although it also gets many benificial things out of your system. The thing is about if your JUST treat isk, your fish got it in the first place because it was stressed. The tang may overcome it now that he isnt in a LFS, although i doubt it because of the size of the tank.
and i said people were being hard the first thread. and the second. And the third. Im not saying that this hobby isnt necessarily out for shista, im just saying he needs to change a lot of his habits and such like everyone else is. Not necessarily a quit, but a reform.
monalisa
Active Member
Originally Posted by fishieness
a UV steralizer will not get rid of Ick in 3 hours. it jsut doesnt work that way. However, it will eventualy get it out of your system. Although it also gets many benificial things out of your system. The thing is about if your JUST treat isk, your fish got it in the first place because it was stressed. The tang may overcome it now that he isnt in a LFS, although i doubt it because of the size of the tank.
and i said people were being hard the first thread. and the second. And the third. Im not saying that this hobby isnt necessarily out for shista, im just saying he needs to change a lot of his habits and such like everyone else is. Not necessarily a quit, but a reform.
Exactly. I don't mean to come off as being harsh with Shista, I'm really just trying to give him some good, solid advice. It's really hard to express yourself the way you want to in type, but I really think that he needs to look at what he's doing, what he's done, and possibly rethink his strategy...know what I mean??
Lisa :happyfish
a UV steralizer will not get rid of Ick in 3 hours. it jsut doesnt work that way. However, it will eventualy get it out of your system. Although it also gets many benificial things out of your system. The thing is about if your JUST treat isk, your fish got it in the first place because it was stressed. The tang may overcome it now that he isnt in a LFS, although i doubt it because of the size of the tank.
and i said people were being hard the first thread. and the second. And the third. Im not saying that this hobby isnt necessarily out for shista, im just saying he needs to change a lot of his habits and such like everyone else is. Not necessarily a quit, but a reform.
Exactly. I don't mean to come off as being harsh with Shista, I'm really just trying to give him some good, solid advice. It's really hard to express yourself the way you want to in type, but I really think that he needs to look at what he's doing, what he's done, and possibly rethink his strategy...know what I mean??
Lisa :happyfish
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by Yimmy
I think you guys should lighten up a bit hes only 13 and there are 40 year olds out ther that buy on impulse ..I'm 14 and am gettin my first tank in 2 weeks. I think that a UV sterilizer could help you out, I have heard of people putting one onto a tank with ich and the ich is gone within 3 hours.
Jimmy
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
I think you guys should lighten up a bit hes only 13 and there are 40 year olds out ther that buy on impulse ..I'm 14 and am gettin my first tank in 2 weeks. I think that a UV sterilizer could help you out, I have heard of people putting one onto a tank with ich and the ich is gone within 3 hours.
Jimmy
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
mikeyjer
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
That's exactly what I'm saying! I've read ALL of Shista's posts. Nothing but problems one after another in a very short period of time. I'm not trying to be harsh, I've got problems too in my tank and I'm trying very best to take care of the problem, but at least I know what my problems are and I AM taking care of'em. There's lots of conflict about UV sterilizer. I don't have one and I don't want one. I've been having great luck eliminating ich with formula 2 and stablize my water quality. One weird thing though, nothing and I mean NOTHING kills my 2 Green Chromis!! They've been through hell and back, still kicking! They've NEVER gotten sick from anything. Maybe that's what Shista should get. :happyfish
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
That's exactly what I'm saying! I've read ALL of Shista's posts. Nothing but problems one after another in a very short period of time. I'm not trying to be harsh, I've got problems too in my tank and I'm trying very best to take care of the problem, but at least I know what my problems are and I AM taking care of'em. There's lots of conflict about UV sterilizer. I don't have one and I don't want one. I've been having great luck eliminating ich with formula 2 and stablize my water quality. One weird thing though, nothing and I mean NOTHING kills my 2 Green Chromis!! They've been through hell and back, still kicking! They've NEVER gotten sick from anything. Maybe that's what Shista should get. :happyfish
jmick
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
I really agree with you, I’ve tried to give him advice and it seems as though he never listens to what anyone has to say—it’s almost as if he posts a question and forgets about it and then posts a similar question the next day. I really feel for his parent who is spending all of this money on his tank only to have everything die. It would be great if his parents hit the boards with him and gave him a little guidance because this hobby seems to be a little overwhelming for him at this time.
According to his profile he is 19.
Ich has a life cycle... nothing can get rid of it in 3 hours.
The posts aren't meant to be "harsh". Look at Shista's posts: he has a problem, asks for help, gets great advice, ignores the advice, posts about another problem, etc.... that's not going to work with this hobby.
I am all for young people getting into this hobby. I'm also all for young people learning responsibility for their actions... an aquarium is not for the impatient.
I really agree with you, I’ve tried to give him advice and it seems as though he never listens to what anyone has to say—it’s almost as if he posts a question and forgets about it and then posts a similar question the next day. I really feel for his parent who is spending all of this money on his tank only to have everything die. It would be great if his parents hit the boards with him and gave him a little guidance because this hobby seems to be a little overwhelming for him at this time.
misty7850
Member
Shista
Sounds like you've been through alot of problems since you have started this saltwater adventure.. I myself have done some dumb things, and of course want to buy everything I see when I go to lfs.. but I do have to agree (without scolding) with the other posters.
I would like to give some constructive criticism.
1) research first.. If you see something you want. Please don't buy it on impulse...
research first.. buy some books on your new hobby, such as Conscientious Marine
Aquarist by Robert M Fenner (sold on this site), The Complete Book of Marine Aquarium
By Vincent B Hargrave; Handbook of Fish Diseases by Dieter Untergasser, Marine
Aquarium Handbook by Martin a Moe (also sold on this site), and the Super Simple
Guide to Corals by James Fatherree are the ones I own and are all good. If you can't
afford to buy the library has some of these (or can get them through interlibrary loan).
2) Ask Questions on the board, BEFORE you buy.
there are so many helpful people here,
who give very good advice, but when someone continues to buy first and ask later,
your co-Aquarist become frustrated, and feel like they are talking to a brick wall..
So Please, ask first... get input, then if it is ok, go out and buy.. when a person impulse
buys (We all do now and again).. without researching first it is our saltwater friends that
suffer and pay the price for our impulsiveness..
Rember two words.. F I S H F I R S T
it is a little ditty I made up to help my husband and I remember to stop impulse buying..
when we go to lfs, we enjoy the "Eye Candy" if we see something we want, we go
F I S H(ing) F I R S T... (Well I do, I'm having a harder time getting my husband to
F I S H F I R S T
3) When you ask for advice, please LISTEN to your fellow aquarist. When you don't listen
it comes to the point where no one wants to help anymore.
just curious how old are you anyway.. some say 13, some say 19.. although, weather 13 or 63, everyone makes mistakes..
Sounds like you've been through alot of problems since you have started this saltwater adventure.. I myself have done some dumb things, and of course want to buy everything I see when I go to lfs.. but I do have to agree (without scolding) with the other posters.
I would like to give some constructive criticism.
1) research first.. If you see something you want. Please don't buy it on impulse...
research first.. buy some books on your new hobby, such as Conscientious Marine
Aquarist by Robert M Fenner (sold on this site), The Complete Book of Marine Aquarium
By Vincent B Hargrave; Handbook of Fish Diseases by Dieter Untergasser, Marine
Aquarium Handbook by Martin a Moe (also sold on this site), and the Super Simple
Guide to Corals by James Fatherree are the ones I own and are all good. If you can't
afford to buy the library has some of these (or can get them through interlibrary loan).
2) Ask Questions on the board, BEFORE you buy.
there are so many helpful people here,
who give very good advice, but when someone continues to buy first and ask later,
your co-Aquarist become frustrated, and feel like they are talking to a brick wall..
So Please, ask first... get input, then if it is ok, go out and buy.. when a person impulse
buys (We all do now and again).. without researching first it is our saltwater friends that
suffer and pay the price for our impulsiveness..
Rember two words.. F I S H F I R S T
it is a little ditty I made up to help my husband and I remember to stop impulse buying..
when we go to lfs, we enjoy the "Eye Candy" if we see something we want, we go
F I S H(ing) F I R S T... (Well I do, I'm having a harder time getting my husband to
F I S H F I R S T
3) When you ask for advice, please LISTEN to your fellow aquarist. When you don't listen
it comes to the point where no one wants to help anymore.
just curious how old are you anyway.. some say 13, some say 19.. although, weather 13 or 63, everyone makes mistakes..
misty7850
Member
Oopss I forgot to tell you my definition of F I S H F I R S T
here it is
First step is research
If after research all looks good, go for it
Stop and think before impulse buy
Have heart, don't make our sw friends suffer and die for your selfishness
Fishing first
Is the key to
Remember not to let your sw friends
Suffer because of your selfishness of not
Taking the time to F I S H F I R S T :jumping:
here it is
First step is research
If after research all looks good, go for it
Stop and think before impulse buy
Have heart, don't make our sw friends suffer and die for your selfishness
Fishing first
Is the key to
Remember not to let your sw friends
Suffer because of your selfishness of not
Taking the time to F I S H F I R S T :jumping:
danedodger
Member
misty, that is absolutely brilliant!!! Do you mind if I shamelessly steal it?
And yep! That's definitely a clown tang! Jeez louise how could a store make that kind of mistake????? Wow...it boggles my mind... :scared: I gotta agree with the others! If that store doesn't know the difference between a striped damsel and a clown tang never ever go back there!! If only I could trade up in that way with everything in my life...trade an old beater truck for a brand new Harley...trade this too tiny old rental house for a huge mansion...just WOW!!!
And yep! That's definitely a clown tang! Jeez louise how could a store make that kind of mistake????? Wow...it boggles my mind... :scared: I gotta agree with the others! If that store doesn't know the difference between a striped damsel and a clown tang never ever go back there!! If only I could trade up in that way with everything in my life...trade an old beater truck for a brand new Harley...trade this too tiny old rental house for a huge mansion...just WOW!!!
misty7850
Member
Originally Posted by DaneDodger
misty, that is absolutely brilliant!!! Do you mind if I shamelessly steal it?
And yep! That's definitely a clown tang! Jeez louise how could a store make that kind of mistake????? Wow...it boggles my mind... :scared: I gotta agree with the others! If that store doesn't know the difference between a striped damsel and a clown tang never ever go back there!! If only I could trade up in that way with everything in my life...trade an old beater truck for a brand new Harley...trade this too tiny old rental house for a huge mansion...just WOW!!!
Steal away DanDodger... LOL :jumping: I wish my lfs's would make those mistakes too... I'd get some pretty good buys if they did...
misty, that is absolutely brilliant!!! Do you mind if I shamelessly steal it?
And yep! That's definitely a clown tang! Jeez louise how could a store make that kind of mistake????? Wow...it boggles my mind... :scared: I gotta agree with the others! If that store doesn't know the difference between a striped damsel and a clown tang never ever go back there!! If only I could trade up in that way with everything in my life...trade an old beater truck for a brand new Harley...trade this too tiny old rental house for a huge mansion...just WOW!!!
Steal away DanDodger... LOL :jumping: I wish my lfs's would make those mistakes too... I'd get some pretty good buys if they did...
fishieness
Active Member
keep trying to feed him those. Tangs are delicate fish and they sometimes have trouble taking to foods. Ask your LFS what they were fedding. Other things like formula two also.
but yes, relocate him to a different tank. If you yourself cannot get a bigger tank, sell him here or somewhere else. Sell, trade, give. Just do your best to get that fish to the biggest tank you can.
but yes, relocate him to a different tank. If you yourself cannot get a bigger tank, sell him here or somewhere else. Sell, trade, give. Just do your best to get that fish to the biggest tank you can.
bluelagoon
Member
if ur current lfs will not take him back, go to a different one! most towns have more than one, or maybe there's one a shortish distance away!!
and sorry, but i have to agree with everyone, slow down! if you can't take the time to research first, you are just going to keep getting into trouble.
the way i avoid impulse buys (when i actually have money): i tell myself that i can't put it in my tank, my tank is too small. i can have it when i get a bigger tank. everything i fall in love with just goes on my personal list for my dream tank, that i will get once i get through 3 more years of college, get married, and buy a house.
and sorry, but i have to agree with everyone, slow down! if you can't take the time to research first, you are just going to keep getting into trouble.
the way i avoid impulse buys (when i actually have money): i tell myself that i can't put it in my tank, my tank is too small. i can have it when i get a bigger tank. everything i fall in love with just goes on my personal list for my dream tank, that i will get once i get through 3 more years of college, get married, and buy a house.