? on sw vs. fw color

[sinner's girl]

I'm asking this for Sinner.
He wants to know if there is a swf that is like gobies.
You know how when fw fish mate thier offspring looks different? They each have different colors? Is there a swf that has the verying color of fw.
thanks,
(did that make any sense? Just typing what he told me...)

 

[fshhub]

if you are asking if there ae nay fw fish that change color and markings as they mature
SURE, many of them do
the emporere angel is one, off the top of my head

 

[sinner's girl]

nope not what i was asking, but thanks.
Sinner has goppies, each one is a different color and has different markings. When they mate the babies have different color (they don't look exactly like thier parents)
Where as all yellow tangs look the same, clowns have the same markings (yes i know shade of color can be different and once you get to know a fish they are different)

 

[shadow678]

Are you asking if there are any SW species that have unique markings from each other and their parents?

 

[twoods71]

I know exactly what you are talking about (I think) and it is an interesting question that I never thought about.
I started thinking after reading your post and all the fish I can think of right now generally look the same.
Yeah there are some clowns with slight differences, patterns, colors, but not as dramatic as guppies.

 

[iechy]

I would guess not. You probably can't get a blue tang to mate with a yellow tang for instance unless you get RyeBread to play them some music since they are different species rather than just color variations. To some extent it is probably possible with color variations within a species like with what TWoods said but the color variations but probably aren't dramatic enough to really be a distinction.

 

[bang guy]

Clownfish are the only ones I can think of with different color morphs but that's nowhere near as dramatic as Guppies or Mollies.
Stomatella Snails have wildly different color variations, but they're not a fish. Hmmm interesting question.

 

[ophiura]

Keep in mind that guppies have been selectively bred for many, many years in order to get the various colors. The wild type guppies, though colorful, tend not to be quite as dramatic. The same can be seen in Bettas. Much of the color and finnage is for display and or mate choice. It is the males that are typically somewhat colorful...females can be quite bland. This is true of many salt water fish as adults (parrotfish, wrasses, etc). The coloration can demonstrate status within the social group, fitness, etc. Being conspicuously different in many salt water fish can be very risky, as it may draw attention to you, making things like scooling behavior ineffective. Coloration is quite a topic of debate.
Anyway, there is a human hand involved in some of the coloration in guppies.

 

[shadow678]

Many lions, such as Radiata and Volitans, vary in shade depending on mood and if they are feeding. I have one of each, and when they are hunting ghost shrimp, become completely black-and-white, and return to normal coloration after feeding is over.

 

[shadow678]

Any of the dragonet family would likely have different color patterns than the parents...I was thinking they meant if the color would be blended, such as if the male was blue and the female was yellow, the offspring would be blue/yellow

 

[slowest is fastest]

I would tend to agree that most of the color variations in goldfish, betas, guppies etc are a result of selective breeding over more than a thousand years. There is information available that suggests this kind of cross breeding in goldfish was done in China as early as 1000 AD.
While there are natural color morphs in saltwater fish (and often un-natural looking) I do not believe that there are very many (if any) that display the same kinds of color differences as guppies from parent to offspring. I have had Flame angels, Clowns ...actually many different saltwater fish that have different markings or hues of colors. Since most people have only limited expierence in captive breeding any sp of saltwater fish the only information I can rely on is the sheer number of similar fish collected from all regions of the world. As an example all the flame angels I have seen have been orange, black and blue.
One possibility could be that genetic color morphs have been classified as different species. Using the flame angel from the previous example, could it be that a Midnight Angel is really a Flame angel devoid of its orange and blue? Possibly but very unlikely IMO. After all not all FW fish exibit the same color changes as guppies. In fact I can not think of very many that do.
Just my thoughts
SiF