opinion on these power heads

teresaq1

teresaq1

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has anyone used these
Seio Super Flow Pump
The energy efficient design of the Seio Super Flow pump uses turbine rotor technology to provide a high volume of water at a low cost. The wide output design disperses water better than the narrow output of most powerheads. Includes an air flow control, ceramic bearings and shaft. Fully submersible.
Item No. Description Stock Qty Price
10600999 620 GPH SEIO SUPER FLOW PUMP 1+ $38.99 $32.99
10600998 820 GPH SEIO SUPER FLOW PUMP 1+ $53.99 $45.99
10600997 1100 GPH SEIO SUPER FLOW PUMP 1+ $79.99 $67.99
 
treystang

treystang

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for powerheads, I will only purchase maxijet's. I have used many others rio cheap no brand, ones that have the penguins on the box. Maxi-Jets are the quietest and most reliable of all. but, I don't think maxijets have any with that high of a flow rating..
but the question is.. why do you need that much flow for a powerhead?? unless you are building a closed loop?
 
teresaq1

teresaq1

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well, Not sure?? new tank, 150 gal, 55 gal sump/fuge. Just researching equipment ?? return pump will be a mag, not sure of number yet prob 12or 18 .. but will need power heads to make up flow.
 
treystang

treystang

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Maxi-Jet 1200 flows 290 GPH; 150x8 = 1200. Honestly a powerhead that flows 620gph in your tank is a bad idea, im sure others will disagree though. That will the same effects of a hurricane in your tank, imo.
Go with 2-4 of the maxi-jet 1200's, thats 1200gph in itself plus whatever you return pump does :)
maxi-jets = quiet!
EDIT: might as well mention.. with a tank that size.. I would look more into a closed loop setup before sticking 4 power heads in my tank though.
 
benter

benter

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I agree with treystang..teresa..I would look - a closed loop in that size tank...The pump would be your major cost..the rest is just pvc pipe...Don't know about you, but I got tired of losing fish to powerheads, not to mention the fact that they keep falling off the sides of the tank causing sandstorms...Best investment I ever made...So far..
 
teresaq1

teresaq1

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I have been looking into them, but i dont know how to build one??
I found instructions for one, but that one the pump was out side the tank????
 
jamiehag

jamiehag

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I tried one- and returned it to the store, the Seio Super Flow Pump is not a super flow pump. It says 620 gph but my maxijet 1200 (295gph) blew it away I don't know where they got their gph from but it hardly moved anywater and the little that it did you could only feel the first 6 inches or so in front of it. And to top it off it was not very queit at all.
Maxi-jets are great they make NO niose they move the gph they say they do and their small I have 4 of the 1200s in my 150 I put them right up againts the top and you can hardly see them under the top frame.
 
f1shman

f1shman

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yup, i bought a wavemaker system from maxijett, came with wavemaker and 3 maxijet 900s, gives my 40 gallon 690gph combined. which is good because to start out im not going to have a sump, I might invest in a fuge later, because they're supposvly so beneficial for reef tanks.
 
beth

beth

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They are good pumps and do what they say they will, which means if you have rockwork, corals anywhere near them, they will blow [or swirl] them over.
The ceramic shaft is fragile and breaks easily. This is a real downside to this pump.
Maxijets are the best all round little pump. Unfortunately Aquarium Systems doesn't make more powerful maxis.
 
jamiehag

jamiehag

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Originally Posted by Beth
They are good pumps and do what they say they will, which means if you have rockwork, corals anywhere near them, they will blow [or swirl] them over.
The ceramic shaft is fragile and breaks easily. This is a real downside to this pump.
Maxijets are the best all round little pump. Unfortunately Aquarium Systems doesn't make more powerful maxis.
Have you tried these pumps personally beth? I did not have any luck with it moving nearly as much water as it should of and the noise was loud from it compared to a maxijet. I like the slience.
 
beth

beth

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Yes, I have used both pumps. The SEIO has various odd setup configurations. If you leave the pump without all of the optional directional attachments, you should get one good swirl. Also, be sure that the water intake is fully open, as this can be adjusted as well. Keep in mind that you are not going to get a heavy steam with these pumps, that is what makes them different. They swirl the water dispursing the water in a wide circular motion, supposedly simmulating ocean current. If it is making noice, then you may not have put everything together right...it shouldn't make so much noise. What noise are you hearing?
Maxis are great! And very reliable. They are the type of pump that keeps on going, when all others have worn out, failed, stopped working, etc. They are a conventional PH with just a hard stream of water shooting out. They also are smallish pumps.
As for fish getting stuck in intakes...why? All pumps comes with intake strainers.
 
treystang

treystang

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Originally Posted by TeresaQ1
Thanks, i will prob go with 4 maxijets, if i cant figure out this closed loop thing


Do some research on closed loops.. they are not that difficult once you figure out how they work. I personally do not have one..but have been wating to build one :)
 
jamiehag

jamiehag

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Beth,
Well it was just a ratteling noise from the impeller. I took it back to the store so i do not have it any longer. I use maxijets now
I have never gotten a fish stuck in a pump intake or had it fall to the sand causing a sand storm. I would also like to know how this was happening with the strainers on according benter.
 
benter

benter

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no biggie guys.main thing I've lost were a nudibranch, and a medusa worm..guess if you aren't into those types of things no need to worry about them..I did have a bursa trigger pecking at a piece of shrimp once that got stuck on the strainer , picking at the shrimp he knocked the strainer off..followed the shrimp right into the PH and definitely got stuck in it..If I hadn't of seen it happen I don't know what would have happened to him..He definitely had one He__ of a hickie though...His whole lips were swollen up, for several hours.. Can't believe none of you have never had a powerhead fall off the glass and cause a sandstorm though...I personally will just stick with the closed loop...so far it seems like a lot less maintenance as well..
 
jlem

jlem

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I bought a pair of Seio 840's about a month ago and I love them. You can adjust the flow easily and they move a ton of water. They move a ton more than the Maxijets that they replaced but they do it in a wider output so it does not feel as strong. I had 4 maxijets and replaced them with 2 Seio's. I had to turn the Seio's down almost all of the way to avoid blowing my leathers to all hell and still maintained very good water movement. The Seio's are larger.
 
golfish

golfish

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Originally Posted by jamiehag
I tried one- and returned it to the store, the Seio Super Flow Pump is not a super flow pump. It says 620 gph but my maxijet 1200 (295gph) blew it away I don't know where they got their gph from but it hardly moved anywater and the little that it did you could only feel the first 6 inches or so in front of it. And to top it off it was not very queit at all.

The Seio's and MJ are different kinds of pumps...The MJ's have more of a narrow stream like flow and the Seio's have a wider flow. The Seio's mover much more water over a wider area, that's why the flow seems less. I think the MJ's are much better made pumps but they don't move a lot of water and their not very practical for your tank size. Since the tank is new I'd drill for a closed loop and use something like a Sequence pump and Ocan Motion wave maker. The Seio's move a lot of water but in the end their just Rio's. I had one burn up a few months ago.
 
beth

beth

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We had some great closed looped threads here, but unfortunately lost the accompanying pictures recently.
If we could get a good info thread going on close loop, we could put it in the Archives....hint-hint, Mark, and others. :D
 
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