OT. I am feeling old.
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birdy
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I have to agree with a job that you love just doesn't pay the bills. I was a zookeeper for 5years and most of the keepers that were single had to have two jobs just to make ends meet.
It is amazing how you don't feel old until you start to talk to those a few years younger than you. I have 3month old twins and I am now starting to feel old at 25, kids make you feel old
It is amazing how you don't feel old until you start to talk to those a few years younger than you. I have 3month old twins and I am now starting to feel old at 25, kids make you feel old
leigh
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I dunno...it's all a matter of what you declare your needs to be. I think I'm fortunate to get paid to be a grad student, but I had to work my tail off and chase funding to make that happen. I make lousy money, but I am doing exactly what I want to do. I can afford a small house and to provide for my dog and cat and keep a sw tank. I eat cheap pasta and most of my entertainment comes from running/biking/swimming (all free) or going to minor league ball games. I rarely eat out, usually bike commute to save on gas, wear less than stylish clothes, and always ask for 'practical' birthday/holiday gifts--but I get by just fine and I'm barely above the poverty level technically. I have married friends raising kids on the same income as me they just sacrifice more of the side things--no fish tank, no dog or cat, no extra gym memberships, etc... I don't believe the whole 'jobs we love that pay the bills don't exist' concept. You just have to evaluate what's truly important to you.
nm reef
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Now who the heck brought this thread back up!!!! Somebody must know thatnext week is my Birthday and you're just tryin' to make me feel my age.
Ain't gonna work.....I've decided I'll hold at 21....no old age stuff for me!!
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Ain't gonna work.....I've decided I'll hold at 21....no old age stuff for me!!
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Ka is the wheel that moves the world...and the man or woman that rages against it will be crushed under its rim.
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reefnut
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Originally posted by overanalyzer
operative word is pay!! It is very easy to say it is not about the money (because it is not) .... BUT - if you want certain things then you have to make sacrifices - so if I wanted to have a decent house - one nice vehicle and have my wife stay home then I can't get away from these corporate soul suckers!!!
To me work is nothing but about the money. If I wasn't getting paid to be here I would be at home playing with the tank...
edit... If I wasn't getting paid I would not have a tank
blueberryboomer
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Rickster,
You are right, HR Puffinstuff.
I never missed Kimba, and altho I never really watched the others I do remember them...
Who could forget Bozo!
You are right, HR Puffinstuff.
I never missed Kimba, and altho I never really watched the others I do remember them...
Who could forget Bozo!
T
thomas712
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F-Troop,...remember? Bozo oh yeah I can remember wanting to be on that show soooo bad.. LOL.
kyaney
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I'm a surgeon and most of my patients are in their 60's - 80's. I look in the mirror now and don't think that I look any different then I did in high school. I look at them and wonder when they said to themselves that they look old, that they don't look like the person that sat for an 11th grade picture. I wonder when they first said, seriously, "I don't think that I can do that, I'm too old." I see 50 year olds that act like 80 year olds and 80 year olds that act like 40 year olds. Most of them tell me that the first thing they noticed was their hands. They looked down one day and said "these are my moms hands" or "these are my dads hands." I have always been fascinated by the elderly. They can talk for hours about things that I only see on Discovery or The History Channel. B-29 side-gunners, holocaust survivors, vietnam vets, no TV, one room school houses, milk by the bottle. Everyone always says how life was so different then, so easy. But they had a different kind of stress; different fears, different passions, different goals. When I was in med school, I remember taking the brain out of an 80 year old guy. I remember thinking how cool would it be to be able to hook up a recorder to this brain and see all of the memories; first word, first kiss, first death of a loved one, marriage. The list goes on and on. My collegues get frustrated at me because I take so much time with my patients. But even though I spent 20 years in school, 1 year as an intern, 2 years as a resident, and 4 years as a cardiac surgeon fellow, I still learn something every day from these wonderful people. So, even though I tell people all the time not to state their opinions as fact, here is a fact. Sit down and talk to an elderly person, you will not only be amazed and astounded, but you will also make their day
rickster
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What a very cool post. And I can't agree more, old people can be a wonderful wealth of information and can provide a perspective that we younguns (notice how I moved from an old grump to a youngun) just don't have.
Did you remove the brain as a biopsy? Sounds like brain surgery to me.
Did you remove the brain as a biopsy? Sounds like brain surgery to me.
kyaney
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We had our own body to dissect. We knew that person from head to toe, literally. We also had 'bucket specimens' (a 5 gallon bucket filled with whatever we were learning at that time, ie. hands, lungs, brains). Also, thank the people that give their bodies to science. They are the ones that make it possible for you to get your open heart surgery, have your baby, and cure your cancer.
overanalyzer
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Originally posted by leigh
I dunno...it's all a matter of what you declare your needs to be. I think I'm fortunate to get paid to be a grad student, but I had to work my tail off and chase funding to make that happen. I make lousy money, but I am doing exactly what I want to do. I can afford a small house and to provide for my dog and cat and keep a sw tank. I eat cheap pasta and most of my entertainment comes from running/biking/swimming (all free) or going to minor league ball games. I rarely eat out, usually bike commute to save on gas, wear less than stylish clothes, and always ask for 'practical' birthday/holiday gifts--but I get by just fine and I'm barely above the poverty level technically. I have married friends raising kids on the same income as me they just sacrifice more of the side things--no fish tank, no dog or cat, no extra gym memberships, etc... I don't believe the whole 'jobs we love that pay the bills don't exist' concept. You just have to evaluate what's truly important to you.
not to get into a "who is poorer" discussion but for a year my wife and I sacrificed to live in small town america and had no running water for the first month -used an outhouse for 2 months and our combined income allowed for us to pay either rent or the gas bill. Decided that is not the way to raise a family! Plus I wastired of scrapping ice off the inside windows so I could see outside in the winter.
I agree you have to make sacrifices - Jobs I would love: zoo keeper (see the post a few above mine). Teacher - right now I make as much on one income as my wife and I made combined @ the height of our teaching careers. Trust me we are not living in the lap of luxury.
kyaney
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This is way off the topic, but this drives me nuts. This is in response to the above reply dealing with money. I was married and had a house, two kids, and two cars when I decided to go to med school. My family went from an income of nearly $70,000.00 a year to just student loans. You wanna talk about poor. I spent 30-40 hours a week in school and 30-40 hours a week studying. As an intern and resident I spent 70-90 hours A WEEK in the hospital and made about $30,000.00 a year. When I was done, I was over $200,000.00 in debt. No, to all of you out there that think that doctors make too much, think about the last time that you went to a ball game: $40.00 a ticket, $10.00 to park, $50.00 to eat. And this all pays for the salary of someone making $10,000,000.00 a year to hit the ball 3 times out of 10. What if I 'hit the ball' three times out of 10. One of my patients gets an infection because he/she didn't take care of their wound at home and they try to sue me for $10,000,000.00. On top of this, I still work 60-80 hours a week. I take care of people for free (no insurance) and answer their phone calls at three in the morning. Yes, it is part of my job, but _PLEASE, don't complain about how much I make, I have earned it.
leigh
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He he...well I wasn't intending to start a 'who's poorer' thread. But OA and kyaney, you prove my point exactly, after all in your both your posts you write 'my wife and i'...so clearly you had a family (at least the wife part of it)...my point was just that if we really want to do something, we find a way to make do. part of human nature after all. Part of what makes me feel better is I always know I could drop doing what I love and do something that pays for a few years if I got myself into a hole. It's nice to have a fallback. Some of my friends that drives them nuts. I have 2 friends now leaving academia to go to big $$ jobs cause they're tired of thinking they're underpaid since they could make xx dollars in 'the real world'. All I see however is the good side to it...all I get for sacrificing that xx dollars--I wouldn't leave for anything--even if I won the powerball I'd be right here where I am. Okay, well I'd have a bigger tank, but aside from that . My point was that when it really comes down to it, we're all capable of sucking it up and giving up the little things to chase our dreams. overanalyzer and kyaney, your posts were the perfect examples of that!
. My point was that when it really comes down to it, we're all capable of sucking it up and giving up the little things to chase our dreams. overanalyzer and kyaney, your posts were the perfect examples of that!
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macyjo
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here something that made me feel old.....I started boiling some water to boil hot dogs...there were no microwaves when I was a kid....and my step daughter--says what are you doing --I am making hotdogs..she says I didn't know you could boil hot dogs..that made me feel old. lolol
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elan
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feeling old... thats a crying shame.. i am 29, but feel like my life hasnt started yet... still have so much i want to do...
in response to a few earlier posts...
"a broken record"... you may know the saying, and what it means, but have you ever heard one??
money and jobs.... i read a study not to long ago, it said the average number of hours per week in the 80's was 43. last year it was 53 and climbing, and people make 5% less in pay.
in the "pre" 80's era, a college educated person (most likely male) could afford a home, car, and a family with only his income.... how many college educated people out there can do that now?
and i remember when my family got our first remote...... it was a push button device with about 40 or so channels(buttons) with a wire going from the remote to the TV...... and it was such a novelty...... now the weird thing is, my Tivo player has no buttons so you have to use the wireless remote...
and, for the techies.... remember the 300 baud modem?? remember how fast the 2400 seemed? and then the super fast 9600??? when did dialup become slow??
in response to a few earlier posts...
"a broken record"... you may know the saying, and what it means, but have you ever heard one??
money and jobs.... i read a study not to long ago, it said the average number of hours per week in the 80's was 43. last year it was 53 and climbing, and people make 5% less in pay.
in the "pre" 80's era, a college educated person (most likely male) could afford a home, car, and a family with only his income.... how many college educated people out there can do that now?
and i remember when my family got our first remote...... it was a push button device with about 40 or so channels(buttons) with a wire going from the remote to the TV...... and it was such a novelty...... now the weird thing is, my Tivo player has no buttons so you have to use the wireless remote...
and, for the techies.... remember the 300 baud modem?? remember how fast the 2400 seemed? and then the super fast 9600??? when did dialup become slow??