gonefishcrazy
Member
One thing I realized last night was the moderator asked Biden most of the questions first and by the time it got to Palin she was on her own subject. Am I the only one who saw that?
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rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2779962
One thing I realized last night was the moderator asked Biden most of the questions first and by the time it got to Palin she was on her own subject. Am I the only one who saw that?
My quick answer is no... but l'm still on the NFL... I have to make my picks... Joe Six Pack...gosh darn are you nievate?
http:///forum/post/2779962
One thing I realized last night was the moderator asked Biden most of the questions first and by the time it got to Palin she was on her own subject. Am I the only one who saw that?
My quick answer is no... but l'm still on the NFL... I have to make my picks... Joe Six Pack...gosh darn are you nievate?
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2779907
Yes.
Bogus?
The Dems in control of Kalifornia and their uber-liberal judges rewrite law daily, even disregarding the vote of the people of this state. Too many dope smoking voters out here. Their brains are on chemical overload.
Cheney had to make some decisions during his term than no other VP in history has had to make. The buck no longer stops at the Ollie North level. Any VP in his position would be doing the same thing.
Cheney's ability to pick up the ball and run with it is what makes him such a powerful person and probably the #1 reason I voted for Bush/Cheney twice.
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
http:///forum/post/2779907
Yes.
Bogus?
The Dems in control of Kalifornia and their uber-liberal judges rewrite law daily, even disregarding the vote of the people of this state. Too many dope smoking voters out here. Their brains are on chemical overload.
Cheney had to make some decisions during his term than no other VP in history has had to make. The buck no longer stops at the Ollie North level. Any VP in his position would be doing the same thing.
Cheney's ability to pick up the ball and run with it is what makes him such a powerful person and probably the #1 reason I voted for Bush/Cheney twice.
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
el guapo
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779746
He never looked intimidated...perhaps frustrated that he couldn't go after her like he wanted to.
Oh you mean he didn't look like a deer in the headlights when she called him out on his comments about "Obama is not ready to lead " ?
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779803
Everyone except Palin had to hold back do to the possiblity of criticism by media and McCain campaign.. If this was done correctly with no holding back... it would have been great
Come on Rylan your not going to play the sexist card are you ? Thats just pathetic at best . Palin had it as easy for being a woman as Obama had it for being black .
http:///forum/post/2779746
He never looked intimidated...perhaps frustrated that he couldn't go after her like he wanted to.
Oh you mean he didn't look like a deer in the headlights when she called him out on his comments about "Obama is not ready to lead " ?
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779803
Everyone except Palin had to hold back do to the possiblity of criticism by media and McCain campaign.. If this was done correctly with no holding back... it would have been great
Come on Rylan your not going to play the sexist card are you ? Thats just pathetic at best . Palin had it as easy for being a woman as Obama had it for being black .
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779983
My quick answer is no... but l'm still on the NFL... I have to make my picks... Joe Six Pack...gosh darn are you nievate?
Now, I am the last person who thinks that the "relating argument" holds weight. However between the two of them biden and palin. I'd say she would "relate" more to the Joe six pack. Whoever the heel that is. After all she is married to one. Any guy who works the rigs of the north slope is a mans man.
http:///forum/post/2779983
My quick answer is no... but l'm still on the NFL... I have to make my picks... Joe Six Pack...gosh darn are you nievate?
Now, I am the last person who thinks that the "relating argument" holds weight. However between the two of them biden and palin. I'd say she would "relate" more to the Joe six pack. Whoever the heel that is. After all she is married to one. Any guy who works the rigs of the north slope is a mans man.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779985
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
http:///forum/post/2779985
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
1knight164
Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2780062
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
+1
Man, he's killing us out here. Totally different person than when he got elected.
http:///forum/post/2780062
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
+1
reefreak29
Active Member
I think biden won , he is a much better lier then she is
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2779987
Oh you mean he didn't look like a deer in the headlights when she called him out on his comments about "Obama is not ready to lead " ?
Come on Rylan your not going to play the sexist card are you ? Thats just pathetic at best . Palin had it as easy for being a woman as Obama had it for being black .
Reverse sexism... ???
No what I am saying is that Biden had to be overly reserved so that people wouldn't accuse him of being condesending which some equate w/ sexism... We know that Biden is an "attack dog" .... but he was leashed...
and the reason for that is because he wanted to avoid negative charges or perceptions from the campaign, media, and audience. So its not about gender to Biden... but attacking a person whom is unqualified... and showing his qualifications and the positions of the Obama/Biden campaign which he was unable to fully accomplish because of possible negative perceptions.
http:///forum/post/2779987
Oh you mean he didn't look like a deer in the headlights when she called him out on his comments about "Obama is not ready to lead " ?
Come on Rylan your not going to play the sexist card are you ? Thats just pathetic at best . Palin had it as easy for being a woman as Obama had it for being black .
Reverse sexism... ???
No what I am saying is that Biden had to be overly reserved so that people wouldn't accuse him of being condesending which some equate w/ sexism... We know that Biden is an "attack dog" .... but he was leashed...
and the reason for that is because he wanted to avoid negative charges or perceptions from the campaign, media, and audience. So its not about gender to Biden... but attacking a person whom is unqualified... and showing his qualifications and the positions of the Obama/Biden campaign which he was unable to fully accomplish because of possible negative perceptions.
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2779989
Now, I am the last person who thinks that the "relating argument" holds weight. However between the two of them biden and palin. I'd say she would "relate" more to the Joe six pack. Whoever the heel that is. After all she is married to one. Any guy who works the rigs of the north slope is a mans man.
what the heck is a "Joe Six Pack" according to Palin... he and hockey moms shoud unite against Wall Street.
http:///forum/post/2779989
Now, I am the last person who thinks that the "relating argument" holds weight. However between the two of them biden and palin. I'd say she would "relate" more to the Joe six pack. Whoever the heel that is. After all she is married to one. Any guy who works the rigs of the north slope is a mans man.
what the heck is a "Joe Six Pack" according to Palin... he and hockey moms shoud unite against Wall Street.
reefreak29
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780086
I think biden won , he is a much better lier then she is
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
http:///forum/post/2780086
I think biden won , he is a much better lier then she is
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
reefreak29
Active Member
oh and I lost any respect for the man when he said global warming is all man made. very uneducated in that field
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780139
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780140
oh and I lost any respect for the man when he said global warming is all man made. very uneducated in that field
Debating is a lot easier when you can make stuff up and no one calls you on it.
http:///forum/post/2780139
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780140
oh and I lost any respect for the man when he said global warming is all man made. very uneducated in that field
Debating is a lot easier when you can make stuff up and no one calls you on it.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780139
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Now go look up Palin's gaffes. Think they were about the same number, if not more.
http:///forum/post/2780139
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Now go look up Palin's gaffes. Think they were about the same number, if not more.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2779985
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2780062
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2780080
+1
Man, he's killing us out here. Totally different person than when he got elected.
Correct,
correct...
and,
correct.
He only ran as a rep because Gray Davis was a dem and he was afraid that Kalifornia would not elect another dem after dealing with Davis.
Oh...and he's not Terminator, he is GOVERNATOR!
http:///forum/post/2779985
I thought the Terminator was? Cali is gonna have their own $7B buyout.
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2780062
The terminator is a lib in sheeps clothing.
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2780080
+1
Correct,
correct...
and,
correct.
He only ran as a rep because Gray Davis was a dem and he was afraid that Kalifornia would not elect another dem after dealing with Davis.
Oh...and he's not Terminator, he is GOVERNATOR!
oscardeuce
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2780120
what the heck is a "Joe Six Pack" according to Palin... he and hockey moms shoud unite against Wall Street.
Why? Many Joe and Jane six pack have a stake in the stock market. pensions, 401-k's etc.
We can all make money.
http:///forum/post/2780120
what the heck is a "Joe Six Pack" according to Palin... he and hockey moms shoud unite against Wall Street.
Why? Many Joe and Jane six pack have a stake in the stock market. pensions, 401-k's etc.
We can all make money.
oscardeuce
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780140
oh and I lost any respect for the man when he said global warming is all man made. very uneducated in that field
Biden did say FDR ran to the TV to address the nation during the 1929 stock market crash.
http:///forum/post/2780140
oh and I lost any respect for the man when he said global warming is all man made. very uneducated in that field
Biden did say FDR ran to the TV to address the nation during the 1929 stock market crash.
gonefishcrazy
Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2780139
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Tax vote: Your right, McCain did not vote at all.
Palin Lied about Obama not wanting to fund troops also. Obama voted against that bill because it did not have a timeline.
AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: fact check also states that Biden was right.
Bail out: What was Palin view?
McCain did call for less regualtion on Wall Street.
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JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan
Tax vote: Your right, McCain did not vote at all.
Palin Lied about Obama not wanting to fund troops also. Obama voted against that bill because it did not have a timeline.
AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: fact check also states that Biden was right.
Bail out: What was Palin view?
McCain did call for less regualtion on Wall Street.