photography lessons

monsinour

Active Member
Alright, since I am new at this and I have a decent digital camera, I need lessons on how to shoot my tank. I wanted to enter into the contest on my own, but I am almost ready to clue my parents in on the suprise and want to send them some pics that will really pop of the paper. Lets start with the entire tank shot first. Since the tank doesnt move, this should be the easisest to perfect. Here is what I can do on my own. Shot 1 is in the dark with no flash:

Shot 2 is in the dark with a flash

So what can I do to improve these and what looks better?
 

levinjac

Active Member
nothing there awesome can you edit out the wall tho and make it just the tank and canopy i like flash better
 

kylev

Member
Not much for improvement advice, but I'm gonna say I like it without the flash more, I like the color it gives to the rock plus more of a sense of depth and perception to the darker spots of the tank
 

meowzer

Moderator
I don;t have a good camera, but I get better pics with the backlight setting

I am looking for a new camera pretty soon though
 

monsinour

Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by levinjac http:///forum/thread/381116/photography-lessons#post_3318274
nothing there awesome can you edit out the wall tho and make it just the tank and canopy i like flash better
Cropping out the walls and whatnot is easy to do. I wanted to just focus on the tank right now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/thread/381116/photography-lessons#post_3318394
I don;t have a good camera, but I get better pics with the backlight setting

I am looking for a new camera pretty soon though

Backlight with or without flash?
BTW can everyone see the cherry wood show through to make the fish in the canopy? Is it just me or is that just totally awesome looking?
 

meowzer

Moderator
The backlight always has a flash....it picks up the colors better....I only have a Sanyo 10 mega pixel camera...:( and I have tried every setting
In the second pic the cherry stands out
 

monsinour

Active Member
OMG my wife is evil. I was staring at the pic a little closer and noticed that my wife put a picture of a cat in the tank. I am one of those people who love abstract and surealism art. This would be a case of surealism i believe. If you want to find the cat yourself, you can see it clearly in pic #1. If you want to have me locate it for you, scroll down a ways. Feel free to click on the pic, then right click and DL the pic to your pc. In windows picture and fax viewer you can zoom in and see exactly what i am talking about.
 

geridoc

Well-Known Member
3241523 I.
The sides of the tank are not parallel in your pictures because the camera lens was not parallel to the front of the tank. Frame the tank with the center of the tank in the center of the image, and be sure that the back of the camera is parallel to the tank front and the corners will not merge as they do in your images. I agree with the others that the flash picture looks better. I have tried many shots with and without flash, and I always find that I prefer the flash picture.
 
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saxman

Guest
Please take this in the spirit in which it's intended. First of all, FTS are difficult to shoot.
Neither photo is in great focus. It may simply be the distance you're shooting at, the camera may be trying to focus on the glass panel, you need to use a tripod, or a combination thereof. I'm not the photographer Renee is, but I can tell you that she never uses a flash, and ALWAYS shoots from a tripod...ALWAYS
(unless it's a quick "no time for a tripod" snapshot). As far as the focus is concerned, most cameras have a focus detent on the shutter release (you hold it halfway down, let the camera focus, then release the shutter). If the camera is trying to focus on the glass, try going slightly off angle so the focusing signal won't bounce off the glass, but rather off of your subject.
If your camera has an aperture-preferred mode, stop it down a bit (higher F-stop). This will improve your depth of field. The trade off is that the camera will shoot at a slower shutter speed (there's that tripod again!).
On the subject of focus, when shooting pix of fish, make sure that the eye is in focus. This is where the viewer's eye is drawn to first, so if the eye isn't crisp, it doesn't matter how good the pic is.
To be honest, the first pic without the flash has much better color saturation and detail. You need to get an image that isn't washed out (your flash image is losing detail and color). That way, you have room to adjust the basics using a photo processing program...Photoshop, Paint Shop, etc. Another problem you can have with a flash is having it reflect back into your lens, which makes a big , bright dot in the pic. FWIW, none of the pix I recall us posting were shot with a flash.
Finally...electronic images are free, so shoot several shots if you can at different angles and settings, then get a feel for what works with your setup in a given situation. I can't tell you how many shots most good photographers go thru to get "the one".
HTH
 

mrdc

Active Member
One thing that makes it difficult for me to take pics is all the autofocusing going on with the camera. My camera has 5 red dots you see when looking through the viewfinder. Each dot will flash when it is focused but not all flash together so I tend to not have crisp shots. A friend who has my same camera told me about turning off some of the dots which should help. I haven't tried it yet but I hope it works.
 

mylady

Member
I have to say, the camera I bought is not the best. It's a Cannon I picked up at Walmart for $100 after two of my Nikkon cool pix cameras, which took much better pictures, broke. This one I cannot figure out how to focus manually and the auto focus option really stinks. I bought it to take pics of my grooming clients so I can post them but if the dog doesn't hold completely still while I snap it's blurry. Two of my friends are professional photographers and my best friend dabbles. She worked for motophoto for 7 years which I think it was sparked her interest in photography. Of course one of my friends who is a professional photographer lives down in NYC now and the other owns a camera/photo shop close by. I should go in and ask her for some tips. Maybe she'd come over and take some pics once the tank is full of critters. Eventually I would like a really nice digital camera, but not until the kids are past the point of dropping them down the stairs or smearing peanut butter on the lense.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Keep talking Saxman I"m listening....I fully understand the tripod deal....I actually shot from a tripod last Christmas and was beautiful.....Mrdc I know you have alot more tips!!!!!!
 

levinjac

Active Member
I had a camera that all i had to do was press a button and it would adjust it self to the lighting angle ect....
 

gemmy

Active Member
I'm so lost with the whole backlight and everything. I'll stick with my crummy cell phone pics for now.
 
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