Pics of my 46G bowfront...

[miamireefr]

Hello All...Posted the same in clown and anemones but wanted to share with the reef tank forum as well and say HELLO and hope to LEARN LEARN LEARN.
Hello Everyone,
I would first like to say HELLO to all and to say I am fairly new to this hobby and rather learn before I go, it's more of a learn as i go process. Alot of folks I have come to know in this hobby tend to be very careless and simply have a general knowledge and add this because they were told too or buy this because it would help but I want to be more than avergae and be able to learn as much as I can on here and take in all I can learn. Now I would like to show some pictures of my 46g bowfront setup.
Fish: Percula, blue tang, royal gramma, mandarin, and bicolor angel.
Anemone: Monstrous BTA and not to sure but I think it's an LTA... AND YES I have come to learn one should only have 1 species of anemone in a tank but thus far these 2 have not clashed to damage one another. An yes I also know that the anemone is HUGE for my tank but I love him and he is doing quite well.
I hope I can learn quite a bit and what truly got me into this hobby is the fact my primary hobby is car tuning and that is getting VERY pricey and also my son is now 7 months old and the movie that can tame him and keep his attention full time is Finding Nemo..go figure..so my wife pretty much convinced me to get the tank setup and I am happy she did. This hobby is addiciting and adding and maintaining seems to be awesome to me. Thanks again for viewing and please FLAMES

and ADVICE

is very welcome...
I have included some pics of my setup to view and opionate of course. Thanks for viewing ladies and gents.
Nick
My tank

Nemo and Monster

Part2

Part3

Can someone confirm the ID of this anemone...LTA?

Angel

Tang

 

[promisetbg]

What type of lighting do you have and how much LR? The first anemone is totally bleached.... the second does look like an LTA. They may war w/ each other even if they do not touch. Also.. a mandarin was a bad choice for a new tank, they need alot of LR and an established tank{upwards of 10 months} and preferably an attached refugium with a thriving pod population. And Welcome. The tank looks nice.This tank is way too too small for a regal tang{they can grow to 16-18".}...sorry for so many negatives.

 

[miamireefr]

Naw trust me it's cool... Like I said I welcome the good andthe bad... thats what the learning process is all about... For the time being I will keep the tang for the sake of keeping my son happy as well as myself for the whole finding nemo theme but I know I can always go back to my LFS and ge a credit towards something else....I will be honest... I am not to sure on the details of this tank... I paid someone to come and set it up pretty much and I figured I wouldnt take an interest to this hobby except maintain the tank and it's inhabitants but the bug bit me and now I have grown quite fond of it so I am still discovering WTF i got.....mistake on my part.... same for the purchase of the anemone's....If I would have known they are actually tha sensitive I would have routed to setting up strictly corals...For now I am avoiding corals because of seeing what my brother in laws anemone did to his...not pleasant at all... Thanks for the info..it really is appreciated..
Nick

 

[promisetbg]

My best suggestion is to read up on water quality and proper nutrition for the tang so he does'nt develop HLLE{head line and lateral erosion}...this particular fish is prone to it..if the two afforementioned needs are not met. Try to also learn about lighting...could you take a pic of inside the canopy so we can at least ID what type it is?

 

[miamireefr]

Promise.... I just finsihed waking up to check out the tank and found I only have a sunpaq 36" 1x96w 50/50 which from what I have read about so far is probably poor for the anemone to thrive on.. Is it possible that adding another in my canope be enough to compensate for the lighting needs the anemone may require? From my math would that make it around 4.1w or so per gallon or am I talking ish?
TIA,
Nick

 

[dmjordan]

I think your bi color angel is nice looking. I was going to get one for my 55 but I have too much rock and not enough caves for it to hide in when it reaches adult size. Somehow a 48" long tank doesn't seem long enough even if I had more room.
Anyway, welcome to the boards!

 

[promisetbg]

Originally Posted by MiamiReefr
I only have a sunpaq 36" 1x96w 50/50 which from what I have read about so far is probably poor for the anemone to thrive on.. Is it possible that adding another in my canope be enough to compensate for the lighting needs the anemone may require? From my math would that make it around 4.1w or so per gallon or am I talking ish?
TIA,
Nick
Unfortunately no..it is'nt a matter of watts per gallon. It's a matter of PAR and PC's don't have enough for an anemone. It needs halides to thrive... as does the other anemone as well. You also have to consider that with one 95 wt PC..only half of that equation is your daylight.

 

[agrabow837]

Looks good man. I am just starting to put up a 90 gallon myself and love tangs. I want to fill it with all tangs.

 

[jhov2324]

Cool Man, I like your aquascaping, you should get zoos and shrooms, they too are very addicting and look great under the actinic lights. Adds color to your tank. I just turned my tank into a reef and I'm loving it. I might do my first fragging this weekend. hope it works out.

 

[miamireefr]

Well seeing as MH's are not gonna happen at the time would it still be beneficial to at least add that extra PC to at least help rather than leave it as is? Up until now my anemones "seem" helthy and haven't given me any sign of being ill or dying...... thanks again for the advice and comments people
Nick

 

[blitz99]

BTA's can do fine under PC's...
how long have you had that anenome? and was it that white at the store?

 

[miamireefr]

For about a week 1/2...short time I know.....so far it's been healthy and yes it was the same exact color if not ligghter when I purchased it......Maybe it has issues but me being unexperienced and non educated went ahead and purchased it anyhow because I was simply in ahhhhh of it's size and put me in a trance.. what can I say ...I fell sucker to those big tips.
Nick

 

[blitz99]

well, i disagree with what was said earlier.. if you double up your lighting and add a second PC fixture it will help...
check ----, for the same price you could get a single 175 watt halide set up and be good to go.. even sell your PC...
probably cost you 50 out of pocket when it's said and done, not bad.
if thats not an option, the second PC will help a lot.

 

[zanoshanox]

First of all, I think the new tank looks great

But I do have to say, that I fully agree with everything promise has said so far. That si an amazing anemone, and will not survive with the PC's. It is somewhat hypocritical for me to say that now however, because i also have BTA in a tank with PCs...I have a smaller tank though, and will soon be upgrading to MH too once I get the canopy built. The ameones may be doing well as of now, but soon the lack of nutrients that they aren't getting (anemones absorb most of their nutrients from the light) and it will show in the health of the specamin. I would really recomend uprgading to the MH, that sik the only way it will make it in the long run, and then you'll be able to add much more. As far as adding the other PC< i wouldnt do it unless you;ve already got one, because it will not make a lagre difference.

 

[zanoshanox]

PC are good lights, but they aren't high quality for most reef tanks. I would say that you could do shrooms and some other low light corals in your tank and be fine with the PCs, but I agree that if you got the 175 w mh the anemones would have a chance. This is how I woudl rank the different types of lights you coudl get, just for future reference
TOP QUALITY:
1.Metal Halide
2.VHO & T-5
3. PC
4.then your regular flourescents
Also pay attention to lighting spectrums, intensities, and wattages, as well as types of fixtures.

 

[murph145]

i beg to differ on the PC's i kept anemones under Pc's but ur guna need around 4-5wpg of PC to keep them happy....
this is only true for condi's, BTA's and LTA's .... Sebaes and Carpets need MH
mine thrived under PC lighting and grew so big i had to get rid of all but on last RBTA....
i have MH now but i would say that doubling up your 96W PC would help deffinately that would put u around 4 WPG and i know its not a WPG thing but whos guna measure your PAR for you do u have a Lumen meter cuz i dont WPG is an easy rule of thumb to folow

 

[miamireefr]

wow....I see that different strokes for different folks applies to this subject.....I will give it a shot with the extra pc in there...Not saying it will work out for the long term but after more stories and cases I have read it's a definite possibility... Funny thing is I see alot of people in this hobby that take exact requirements necessary and do well and others who just wing it with what they got and seem to do fine as well...I truly enjoy this hobby up until now...
Actaully in regards to earlier comments on the tang in my tank...In theory isn't it true the size of your fish will grow to that of what it's surrounding enviroment will allow? I hope that made sense..
thanks,
Nick

 

[murph145]

hey nick i think u should be ok with the lighting after adding another 96W PC
i mean its always better to go more so dont get me wrong lol :happyfish
in a perfect scenario ud have MH lighting but i tell u from my experience BTA's and LTAs do fine under 4-5WPG of PC
as far as the tang goes.... they are open water swimmers and need at least 5' of swimming distance in a tank so thats usually a 100g tank not to say u cant keep one in a smaller tank for a while but it will outgrow it slow or fast i dont know but they just need the larger tank for swimming reasons

 

[zanoshanox]

I think i understand what you're saying, like....a fish will grow to adapt to its surroundingsa? If that's what you meant, I thoroughly agree. If you have that tang, and its 3 in, doesnt mean its still gonna grow to 18 in. It might onyl ever grow to be 10, since it has been in there since birth. it woudl probably be better suited in a larger tank, but that doesnt mean it cant do well in your tank. For you, I would say, go ahead and add the other PC, see how things go with the anemones and whatever else you decide to add, and then go from there with deciding what you need for the futute.

 

[miamireefr]

thanks for the reply guys....my wife is seeming to regret and pushing me to get the tank going....lol At first she was annoyed because I eat,sleep,drink cars and modifying them in general and she knows she just added another hobby to the list... Another one for the good guys!!! haha Now I am just plotting and waiting for both my anemones to settle in an area and hopefully if they stay put for a consistent 3 days I will try to add some mushrooms and maybe a coral or 2... I will say this

[hr]
gets expensive man....but it's all good..I keep tellingmy wife it's for our sons benefit to get these items..
Laters,
Nick THANKS AGAIN PEOPLE!