Please help!! i dont know what just happened!!

speg

speg

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No problem.. we like newbies.
If you look at the forums there are lots of different sections... some posts have a little paperclip symbol which means they've added pictures to the post. USUALLY it's of fish/coral. There is also a section down at the bottom of the list of topics that is nothing but member's photos.
I'll give you a link to my 12 gallon nano cube and you can see how it's progressed.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/vb/s...-JBJ-Nano-Cube.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Jeanclaude
http:///forum/post/3270279
nice tank meowzer! is that 2 powerheads you have? one on top of the other
On the left bottom is the Koralia 1....up top is the Rio (for top movement) back right bottom is the Koralia 2....up top the the protein skimmer, I have 3 powerheads, a bakpak2 protein skimmer and a filter that is comparable to the penguin 400 (the double ones)
 
jeanclaude

jeanclaude

New Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3270285
On the left bottom is the Koralia 1....up top is the Rio (for top movement) back right bottom is the Koralia 2....up top the the protein skimmer, I have 3 powerheads, a bakpak2 protein skimmer and a filter that is comparable to the penguin 400 (the double ones)
okay meowzer i just got back from the store and purchased the koralia nano 1600-425.. i placed it on the bottom right side of the tank pointing to the right.. hopefully this helps.. thanks again
 
socalnano24

socalnano24

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ok I'm back.... I noticed you said your heater was "set" at 81. So whats your tank temperature? You do have a thermometer right?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Jeanclaude
http:///forum/post/3270371
okay meowzer i just got back from the store and purchased the koralia nano 1600-425.. i placed it on the bottom right side of the tank pointing to the right.. hopefully this helps.. thanks again
way to begin......it will definitely help.....just keep an eye around the tank for "dead" spots......you do not want ANY waste to accumulate....
 
maddhatter

maddhatter

New Member
Sounds like nano have this one under control. You may have been hanging on the edge of a crash with number size of fish. Small tanks can only handle so much fish waste based on the surface area for bacteria to flourish. Hit the wall and crash can happen quick. Almost every nano, your a little larger, overseen Hawaii minimal amount of fish. There are plenty of posts on this site that try and help prevent others from having these situations. Do a search or two and I know you will find something to help. I am a bit of a purist and don't use chemicals. If you the right balance of sand rock fish light and macros the tank should be self sustaining. Research first and save money. It's all here on this site and has helped me when I first started. Been a while but stood to have a tank again. Good luck and enjoy the beauty of your next setup.
 
ibanez

ibanez

Member
Has anybody thought there could be an electrical current running through the tank? IMO, no cube is going to cause a large enough spike to kill everything in the tank all of a sudden. I feed 2 cubes worth off mysis in a day 3 times a week between fish and corals in a 10 gallon with 5 gallon sump without any spikes in ammonia or phosphate or nitrate. I do rinse them, but I didn't start out that way, only when I started getting cyano did I start wrinsing them. I would test for stray voltage, or take a cube of the foot to the lfs and ask him to feed it to some fish there.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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I do not think it was the food....I think it was a combination of everything....too much livestock, no water movement, maybe too much food....etc....etc...etc....
 
jeanclaude

jeanclaude

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Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3270412
Has anybody thought there could be an electrical current running through the tank? IMO, no cube is going to cause a large enough spike to kill everything in the tank all of a sudden. I feed 2 cubes worth off mysis in a day 3 times a week between fish and corals in a 10 gallon with 5 gallon sump without any spikes in ammonia or phosphate or nitrate. I do rinse them, but I didn't start out that way, only when I started getting cyano did I start wrinsing them. I would test for stray voltage, or take a cube of the foot to the lfs and ask him to feed it to some fish there.
i asked them if i can do that and they looked at me and said we dont want our fish dying if it indeed the food..
 
jeanclaude

jeanclaude

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3270414
I do not think it was the food....I think it was a combination of everything....too much livestock, no water movement, maybe too much food....etc....etc...etc....
i honestly dont think it was the 5 fish in the tank that killed it.. they have been in there since january, and i saw on this site someone having a full stock reef 20 gallon, and i counted 6 fish in there, however the tank also had 3 powerheads..
 
jeanclaude

jeanclaude

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Originally Posted by SocalNano24
http:///forum/post/3270374
ok I'm back.... I noticed you said your heater was "set" at 81. So whats your tank temperature? You do have a thermometer right?
no i dont use a thermometer ill know when my tank is cooling down because the heater light comes off, and then goes on
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Jeanclaude
http:///forum/post/3270525
no i dont use a thermometer ill know when my tank is cooling down because the heater light comes off, and then goes on
YIKES....That is pretty dangerous...heaters DO and WILL malfunction....het yourself a thermometer....you can buy one of those glass ones at Walmart for about $1
ALSO....I said I thought it was a combination of all those things....I have 4 fish in my 29G...a chalk bass, zebra goby, citron goby, and a scotter blenny.....all smaller fish, and MAYBE ....BIG MAYBE will I add another ...and it will be just as small....
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3270527
YIKES....That is pretty dangerous...heaters DO and WILL malfunction....het yourself a thermometer....you can buy one of those glass ones at Walmart for about $1
ALSO....I said I thought it was a combination of all those things....I have 4 fish in my 29G...a chalk bass, zebra goby, citron goby, and a scotter blenny.....all smaller fish, and MAYBE ....BIG MAYBE will I add another ...and it will be just as small....
Yep, I have a Stealth that runs about 4 degrees below what it is set at even in a 15 gallon nano, have another that is supposed to shut off at 78 and does not and had another send current into my tank killing all my freshwater koi angels and everything else in the tank for that matter. That has all been in the last couple years, the funny thing is I don't ever remember having a single heater problem back in the old days when I first got into the hobby, of course I do mean old days and my first tank was a stainless framed and hooded 10 gallon with a slate bottom.
Fishtaco
 
J

jstdv8

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hard to beleive she lasted that long without a powehead. What causes surface aggitation? seems like you'd need more than that penguin to mix oxygen into the water.
Did you notice any heavy breathing and or fish laying on thier sides on the bottom of the tnak before they died?
 
jeanclaude

jeanclaude

New Member
Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3270551
hard to beleive she lasted that long without a powehead. What causes surface aggitation? seems like you'd need more than that penguin to mix oxygen into the water.
Did you notice any heavy breathing and or fish laying on thier sides on the bottom of the tnak before they died?
after the first 2 fish died i noticed my blue devil damsel hiding under a rock stressing out..
 
socalnano24

socalnano24

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jeanclaude
http:///forum/post/3270525
no i dont use a thermometer ill know when my tank is cooling down because the heater light comes off, and then goes on
Yeah, I agree with meowzer. I have my heater thermostat set at 78 and my tank stays a consistent 81 during the winter months and gets up to 85 or 86 in July and August. So if you have similar temperature flucations you are easily hitting 90 if your lights heat up your water and your place ever gets above a comfortable indoor air temperature. I'd recomend setting your thermostat on your heater to a lower 75-78 and getting a glass thermo to see where that puts it. It'll help decrease stress on the fish alot....
on another related incident to impress upon you the importance of temperature. I went on vacation last august for a week; and my fish sitter closed my feeder lid (which I always keep open for evaportive cooling). ALL my fish died in a 24 hour period. It was terrible and was soley based on temperature spike over a 12 hour period.
 
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