Polyps bailing out

spanko

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Okay so I have this friend, seriously a friend not me, that has a colony of zoas where some of the polyps are leaving the colony. They are found sitting on the sandbed and can be tanken and placed elsewhere in the tank and open up and act fine. Sounds like there are multiple crabs, shrimps etc in the tank but the friend has not seen any landscape pruning being done by them.
Anyone have any ideas experience with this kind of thing I could share with said friend????
Thanking you in advance?
 

saltn00b

Active Member
does he watch at different times of night / early morning with a red lense flashlight?
you find many interesting things like that.
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by saltn00b
http:///forum/post/3185732
does he watch at different times of night / early morning with a red lense flashlight?
you find many interesting things like that.
"SHE" LOL...watches at ALLLLLL HOURS....sees nothing :(
 

saltn00b

Active Member
do other polyps seem loose?
all one species of zoa ? how does that species grow? on a matte or close, but not really connected, save a few strands if anything?
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by saltn00b
http:///forum/post/3185736
do other polyps seem loose?
all one species of zoa ? how does that species grow? on a matte or close, but not really connected, save a few strands if anything?
They are 2 rocks that have green zoas on them, so yes they are the same species. They are on different sides of the tank also.
I have noticed some polyps look "loose" the others I found in a small group (say 5 polyps) on the sand...
AHA...I knew I had pics at work :) these are the 2 groups...of course they do not looke like this anymore :(
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scopus tang

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185681
Okay so I have this friend, seriously a friend not me, that has a colony of zoas where some of the polyps are leaving the colony. They are found sitting on the sandbed and can be tanken and placed elsewhere in the tank and open up and act fine. Sounds like there are multiple crabs, shrimps etc in the tank but the friend has not seen any landscape pruning being done by them.
Anyone have any ideas experience with this kind of thing I could share with said friend????
Thanking you in advance?

Henry, I've had this happen with button polyps (both the brown and green variety), although the polyps generally showed up all over the tank, settled themselves and started growing. Haven't seen it with other types of zoas.
 

spanko

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Randy my friend!!! Thank you for jumping in here with your experiences. How goes it it the cold north?
 

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185778
Randy my friend!!! Thank you for jumping in here with your experiences. How goes it it the cold north?
Well, lets see . . . Yesterday temps here were colder than in the North Pole, Last night temps without wind chill hit 20 below, and today our high is supposed to reach 1 degree. Its cold . . . thoughts of a Warm bed, fire, and a warm cup of Hot Chocolate with a little splash of peppermint Snops keeps running through my head . . . as I type with my ice cold fingers (boiler at school is broken!). Other than that, its all good
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/3185759
Henry, I've had this happen with button polyps (both the brown and green variety), although the polyps generally showed up all over the tank, settled themselves and started growing. Haven't seen it with other types of zoas.
So are you saying this is normal???? and that you have not seen this with the ones pictured above???
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3185783
So are you saying this is normal???? and that you have not seen this with the ones pictured above???
"Normality," Margaret Mead tells us, "is culturally defined" . . . In other words my dear; what is normal in my tank, may not be normal in yours.
That said however . . . yes I am saying that it is normal with the common button polyps - I personally have seen this occur in multiple tanks, multiple times with the various colors (brown, green, and red) of common button polyps.
No, I have not seen what you pictured/described above occur with that particular zoa, since if I recall correctly, you claimed in other posts not only self-fragged but morphed under the same lighting/tank conditions as well.
Have I seen other types of zoa colonies drop polyps on occassion? Yes. Do I consider this normal behavior on the scale that Henry seems to be describing in the original post? No; if it was, people would not need to cut frags in order to sell frags, they could simply wait for colonies to begin self dispersing, pick up the polyps, glue them to frag discs, and sell/trade them. Is it know for various zoas and/or palys to self distribut themselves throughout an aquarium? Yes. What do I consider to be the most likely explaination of what Henry is describing in the original post? Unless his friend is dealing with button polyps, I consider the most likely explaination to be that something is pulling polyps off of the main colony - could be a crab, could be a shrimp, could be a large brittle star, a fish, or any number of things.
Does that answer your questions?
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185809
Hee hee. Lois is the friend, if you had not guessed that yet!!!
Lois = meowzer? Pardon me for being confused, but I haven't tried to keep of with meowmzer, so I have no idea if she is Lois. Regardless, if the question being asked is if the green zoas pictured (possibly RDE) "normally" self disperse to the sandbed, morph, and then open up and grow normally, my answer is still no. Is it possible that something is dispersing the polyps? Yes. If any additional dispersed polyps show up with color morphing, I would be interesed in seeing the pictures. A far more likely explaination, if I may propose it, would be that the colony contained one or more polyps of the second zoa (possibly reverse gorialla nipples) that the purchaser did not originally notice, and these polyps were pulled off and fell to the sandbed. when relocated they began to grow and divide. It is not at all uncommon for large colonies to contain polyps of multiple zoa morphs.
 

meowzer

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Thanks Scopas.....So far the only ones coming off are the green zoas....I will continue to watch these colonies to see if by some chance there is something doing this....as of yet, I have found nothing (and I watch a lot too)
I will try to get a pic tonight of what they look like now.
 

spanko

Active Member
Are the polyps bailing out on both of those rocks?
Are they bailing on this rock?
If so which color is bailing?

What Randy is talking about when he says morph is the color variation. The polyps that are bailing, when you relocate them and the open up again are they changing color? If so that is what he would like to see a picture of. Perhaps a before they jumped color and an after relocation shot.
Yes Randy, Meowzer = Lois.
 

meowzer

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YEs, both rocks have lost polyps...The orange have not come off...only the green.
OHHH...I bought them this way...one rock had a small group of orange.
I relocated a small group into my 54G, and as of this morning they were still green too (LOL)
I will get pics tonight....
 

scopus tang

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3185824
Thanks Scopas.....So far the only ones coming off are the green zoas....I will continue to watch these colonies to see if by some chance there is something doing this....as of yet, I have found nothing (and I watch a lot too)
I will try to get a pic tonight of what they look like now.
No problem. Scopus = Randy. I'll look forward to those pictures.
Funny story, After a major failure on my part last summer, I assumed that most invertes in my aquarium were dead and gone. For 6+ months, I had not seen the gold-banded coral shrimps nor the banded sea star (larger than my hand). Then one night at 1:30am, I was acclimating new fish (it was a long trip home from the not so local LFS), and guess what showed up? Yep, there was my banded sea star crawling up the side of my tank, and a month or so later, the coral banded popped back out - were they had been I had no idea, but obviously they were there. I also watch and photograph my aquarium a lot
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