Premium Play Sand?

ronipa

Member
Trying to switch from CC to sand.....
I bought a 50lb bag of premium play sand from Lowe's tonight.....
Is this what you guys are talking about? I hope I can use this to do the switch as there was no "Southdown Sand" and this was only $2.09 for the whole bag!
Can I just follow instructions from previous threads and "cure" this myself?
Thanks!
Roni
 

ronipa

Member
what about all those other posts that say it is ok?
Thomas?
Lovethesea?
Please help before I make a mistake!
Roni
 
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thomas712

Guest
Re read those posts, you need to look spacifically for ARAGONITE OR SILICA sand. you need to look for Southdown, Yardright or Old Castle playsand, not just any playsand. If you go with silica playsand then you need to find the whitest that you can bacause the darker varieties have to many impurities in them.
Let me dig up some more info for ya.
 
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thomas712

Guest
Here goes.
So what sand do I use to build my sand bed?
The answer here is aragonite sand. Many hobbyists have found that Southdown, Yard right or its apparent new name of old castle sand works very well for reef aquariums. This is due to it being calcium carbonate based, and with an excellent grain sizes makes for a good functioning sand bed. 1/8mm is very fine> 1/256mm to 1/16mm is considered silt, and less that> 1/256mm is considered clay.
Southdown seems to mostly contains very fine to silt size particles, and maybe a few larger than 1/8mm.
Other aragonite sands are available through many LFS. If it is aragonite it is good.
The trick here is to make sure that it is aragonite and not calcite sand as many different minerals have identical chemical formulas but wildly different properties. Aragonite is orthorhombic crystal and calcite is rhobehedral, scalenohedral or prismatic crystals
This means they have a different arrangement of atoms giving them different properties of density, solubility, hardness etc. They also tend to incorporate different trace elements, based on what best fits into their different crystal structures. Aragonite will substitute larger atoms such as strontium. Calcite grabs magnesium and iron. Aragonite’s properties are much more beneficial in a closed system.
It also seems that many have used Quick Crete play sand with success though it is not calcium carbonate based, but silica based instead. No this does not mean that you will have silicates in your tank.
Very Generally speaking Silica sand, lets say industrial style is a high purity quartz (SiO2) sand. Silica is a stable compound and will not leach silicates into your tank for it has no "sillicates in it. Depending on its chemical and physical characteristics, silica sand is used as glass sand, foundry sand, abrasives ..etc. Silica sand can contain tiny amounts of impurities, such as iron, manganese, chromium, calcium, or aluminum, and give the sand its color depending on how much of these impurities are contained within. So it depends on geographically where your silica sand comes from as to how much impurities it contains. If you are going to use silica sand look for white silica sand as it is much more aesthetically pleasing
A warning about silica crystals:
Silicosis is a disabling, nonreversible and sometimes fatal lung disease caused by overexposure to respirable crystalline silica. More than one million U.S. workers are exposed to crystalline silica, and each year more than 250 die from silicosis. There is no cure for the disease, but it is 100 percent preventable if employers, workers, and health professionals work together to reduce exposures.
So in other words do not breath this dust. FYI there is also a warning label required by the state of California that is required on silica play sand.
Ways to test sand to see if you might be able to use it in your aquarium:
Take a sample of your sand and test some of the sand with vinegar. If it bubbles/dissolves, it is calcium carbonate sand and should be safe to use.
Take some sand and pass a magnet over it or in it, it might come out with little metal shavings from processing, if it does I would not use it. Though I have heard of some who have with little poor effects. Iron can actually be a fertilizer for macro algae.
Hope that helps ya
Thomas
 
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thomas712

Guest
I have no idea what it is you purchased so I can't comment on it.
Got a magnet? run it along the bag and see if it pick up any metals, around that area. If it does then I would not use it.
Thomas
 
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thomas712

Guest
Your next step would be to get an inch or so in a clear glass jar or something, is it brown? or white. If it is brown most people do not want to see that in there tanks, brown also gives away the fact that it most likely contains more impurities in it.
Thomas
 

ronipa

Member
It is not bright white but like a light beige.... should I suck it up and buy the stuff from the LFS?
Roni
 

ronipa

Member
It is dry right now....
I was going to do a what change tomorrow and use the "old" water to put in the bucket with the sand but I will wait on you guys to make a decision for me.....
I guess I could just fork over the money bfor the real stuff but I was trying to avoid that cost right now..... I guess there are no shortcuts with SW....
Roni
 
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thomas712

Guest
Well you have three votes not to use it. Simply because we can not truly identify what you have. I would have to make my vote "do not use" as well giving you 4 votes for not using whatever sand you picked up. I really don't think you will be able to find the playsand in your state.
Hard to go wrong with aragonite sand.
 

ronipa

Member
Thanks for all the advice!
I guess I will go to the LFS tomorrow (and shell out the bucks

I will let you guys know how it turns out....
Thomas and others,
What is your opinion on getting rid of my Emperor and using my skimmer, ph, and LR? Do I do the sand switch and then think about the filter switch later..... BTW..... I have no where to put by fish buring the swtich other than a QT tank...
Roni
 
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