ppanthrah75
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thanx its working good tomorrow will be a fun day going to go with 2quill suggestion to join the 2 30 gall systems just got to figure what size piping to use
problems running 2 refugium/sumps on 1 tankplease help
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acrylic51
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Ok....On the sump where the skimmer is placed what is the baffle height? I agree with Corey about getting rid of 1 of the overflow boxes and utilizing just 1 and bringing both drain lines to the skimmer section, but splitting 1 of them to feed the fuge......I like the idea of feeding the fuge back via the bulkhead to the return section. Not truly following why your getting or seeing the evaporation issue where the skimmer is....That water level should be somewhat consistent IMO.
2quills
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help#post_3348574
Hey Corey i wasn't knocking your drawing, I think it is a great idea and it will work. I guess he doesn't have enough room for both under his stand, the fuge might look good outside the tank. I guess you are right about the bubbles from the skimmer.
Al, I know you weren't bud. Actually my drawing isn't very accurate anyway. It wasn't untill he posted the full shot of the sump with the fuge lit up that I could see the baffles in the tank. They are pretty short and since the water level is so high I can see how the whole thing would fluxuate from evaporation. It would probably be a slow drop but a drop non the less. I'm actually thinking if it were me I'd switch the sump around. Use the small section which has the return as the place where the drain water comes in and then move the skimmer to the middle sectioin leaving the larger section for a return. I'd also make the baffles on both ends higher and raise the skimmer up on a stand if need be.
ppanthrah75: I'm just throwing some thoughts around here for you to try to give you some ideas. But so far, that is what I'm thinking I would do in your shoes.
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help#post_3348574
Hey Corey i wasn't knocking your drawing, I think it is a great idea and it will work. I guess he doesn't have enough room for both under his stand, the fuge might look good outside the tank. I guess you are right about the bubbles from the skimmer.
Al, I know you weren't bud. Actually my drawing isn't very accurate anyway. It wasn't untill he posted the full shot of the sump with the fuge lit up that I could see the baffles in the tank. They are pretty short and since the water level is so high I can see how the whole thing would fluxuate from evaporation. It would probably be a slow drop but a drop non the less. I'm actually thinking if it were me I'd switch the sump around. Use the small section which has the return as the place where the drain water comes in and then move the skimmer to the middle sectioin leaving the larger section for a return. I'd also make the baffles on both ends higher and raise the skimmer up on a stand if need be.
ppanthrah75: I'm just throwing some thoughts around here for you to try to give you some ideas. But so far, that is what I'm thinking I would do in your shoes.
ppanthrah75
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hey 2quills the sump with the skimmer im gonna leave and do some baffle work now my ? is what size piping should i use to go from return to the return on other refugium and theres no harm in having sand and l.r. and macro algae is there?
ppanthrah75
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hey Al the grey line came with the refugium
2quills
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Originally Posted by ppanthrah75 http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help/20#post_3348644
hey 2quills the sump with the skimmer im gonna leave and do some baffle work now my ? is what size piping should i use to go from return to the return on other refugium and theres no harm in having sand and l.r. and macro algae is there?
If you're asking about putting it in the return sections than I personally wouldn't, but you could. But no I don't see any harm really in keeping things just like they are but just doing the baffle work like you said. As, Al had stated you can figure on upto 600gph through a 1" drain. A 2" drain would do upto 2400GPH since it has four times the area within the pipe. So I would think at least a 1.5" drain or a 2". Perhaps dual 1.25"s??? I wouldn't go any smaller than two 1" lines for your size tank.
Originally Posted by ppanthrah75 http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help/20#post_3348644
hey 2quills the sump with the skimmer im gonna leave and do some baffle work now my ? is what size piping should i use to go from return to the return on other refugium and theres no harm in having sand and l.r. and macro algae is there?
If you're asking about putting it in the return sections than I personally wouldn't, but you could. But no I don't see any harm really in keeping things just like they are but just doing the baffle work like you said. As, Al had stated you can figure on upto 600gph through a 1" drain. A 2" drain would do upto 2400GPH since it has four times the area within the pipe. So I would think at least a 1.5" drain or a 2". Perhaps dual 1.25"s??? I wouldn't go any smaller than two 1" lines for your size tank.
acrylic51
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I'd use 1.5" on the return....2" is ungodly......
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help/20#post_3348661
If you're asking about putting it in the return sections than I personally wouldn't, but you could. But no I don't see any harm really in keeping things just like they are but just doing the baffle work like you said. As, Al had stated you can figure on upto 600gph through a 1" drain. A 2" drain would do upto 2400GPH since it has four times the area within the pipe. So I would think at least a 1.5" drain or a 2". Perhaps dual 1.25"s??? I wouldn't go any smaller than two 1" lines for your size tank.
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/383113/problems-running-2-refugium-sumps-on-1-tankplease-help/20#post_3348661
If you're asking about putting it in the return sections than I personally wouldn't, but you could. But no I don't see any harm really in keeping things just like they are but just doing the baffle work like you said. As, Al had stated you can figure on upto 600gph through a 1" drain. A 2" drain would do upto 2400GPH since it has four times the area within the pipe. So I would think at least a 1.5" drain or a 2". Perhaps dual 1.25"s??? I wouldn't go any smaller than two 1" lines for your size tank.
ppanthrah75
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hey AL if u mean a store for the bulk head i have a H.D. next town over ill be there in the morning and hopefully tomorrow i can post pics of what is in my head at the moment. lol. hey acrylic51 the baffle hieght is 8" i will b raising it a few with some other redo's just want to thank u all for the responses and advice u have given me alot of info so tomorrow i will b putting it all together and well c what i come up with good night all. till tomorrow.
acrylic51
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Cool....Good luck at finding the bulkheads at HD....You might want to call a specialty plumbing place....You'd have better luck there. Not a common stock item for HD.
Al I checked TFP website, and can't find them in the wet/dry section.....I don't know the exact name of them other than drain hose, but I will call them in the morning and tell them exactly where their located in the store, and have them get me a item number and price for you.....
Al I checked TFP website, and can't find them in the wet/dry section.....I don't know the exact name of them other than drain hose, but I will call them in the morning and tell them exactly where their located in the store, and have them get me a item number and price for you.....
ppanthrah75
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ok heres what i came up with i have a bunch of pics will post later i still have to make a base for skimmer and have to go to pool place to make draim lines look better